everybody read this about TREN

[Ulter]

Boner, I was trying to keep this civil. I can see that's not something you're capable of. No one minds that you disagree, but you're a complete asshole about it.

Since I answer about 16,000 emails a year related to anabolics, own a very well respected anabolic board, have been cycling for 20 years, and have been on this board for 3 years, I think I am qualified to post what the general consensus is among tren users. I am asked this question about binders all the time. In fact if you do a search here you'll find over 150 threads over the last 2 years discussing it.

You don't have to believe that it's the BA. In fact, do me a favor, double up on it next time you make tren.

 

[sh4dowf4lcon]

Boner, I was trying to keep this civil. I can see that's not something you're capable of. No one minds that you disagree, but you're a complete asshole about it.

Since I answer about 16,000 emails a year related to anabolics, own a very well respected anabolic board, have been cycling for 20 years, and have been on this board for 3 years, I think I am qualified to post what the general consensus is among tren users. I am asked this question about binders all the time. In fact if you do a search here you'll find over 150 threads over the last 2 years discussing it.

You don't have to believe that it's the BA. In fact, do me a favor, double up on it next time you make tren.

OWNERSHIP

 

[brownpaperbag04]

BPP,

If you don't know how to have a conversation with a business person over the phone that's your problem. I don't have any issues getting the information I need. To answer your question, yes the goo in your kit is simply MC and IS safe to inject...though there is no reason to do so.

I never claimed to be making "scientific" statements. I'm stating manufacturing FACTS. Yeah and about jumping all over Dr. M....do you not agree that people posting bogus information on here as truths is a problem? If you don't know for sure then keep your fucking mouth shut. Newbies read this information looking for direction...people posting SHIT like that causes misconceptions about gear and the problem should be eliminated. M should be the one starting out "My momma said..." or "a friend told me..." because that's how he got the information.

Ulter...good posts (pre-arguing i mean)

 

[chuck48]

Actually pigments from such things ends up in lymph nodes and is a NORMAL lesion seen in many cases. Note lesion does not mean diease causing or pathogenic. Enteric and pulmonary lymph nodes are common places for this to occur. In fact, bros with tatatoos have some of this goin on as well. Totally normal and harmless. Now, particulate endin up in the lung is quite possible resulting from injections with pellet binders still in them. Unless the insult is tremendous or accumulating over time in gross amounts then this isn't a problem. In fact there is a natural accumulation of this type in lungs as you age. There isn't anybody out there who doesn't have some sort of particulate accumulation in their lungs, however small or inconseqential it maybe.

 

[kwik95gt3]

BPP,

If you don't know how to have a conversation with a business person over the phone that's your problem. I don't have any issues getting the information I need. To answer your question, yes the goo in your kit is simply MC and IS safe to inject...though there is no reason to do so.

I never claimed to be making "scientific" statements. I'm stating manufacturing FACTS. Yeah and about jumping all over Dr. M....do you not agree that people posting bogus information on here as truths is a problem? If you don't know for sure then keep your fucking mouth shut. Newbies read this information looking for direction...people posting SHIT like that causes misconceptions about gear and the problem should be eliminated. M should be the one starting out "My momma said..." or "a friend told me..." because that's how he got the information.

Ulter...good posts (pre-arguing i mean)

Personally, i think weve got a bigger problem with people being dicks for no apparent reason. In the adult world-you will learn how to disagree with someone in a civil manner. Dr.M provided an assumption. People state things based on assumptions every minute-and im willing to bet you have too. Dr. Matt is a doctor, and has gone through med school, so dont think you are God just because you correct one of his statements. We are all entitled to disagree here-but theres no need to be a jackass about it, and try and start an arguement over the internet. This only proves one thing-your level of immaturity.

 

[brownpaperbag04]

OK I'm sorry if I singled out Dr. M...I just had a bunch of built up tension about this issue and finally got a great chance to let it out. HOWEVER, as I've already said, this is a problem and he DID present the information as if it were fact. Since he's a doctor I assume he's a pretty smart and assertive person...he should've known better than to post something he didn't know for sure about...if he recommended medication to patients based on a rumor he heard from joe shmoe he'd get sued for malpractice in a new york minute.

 

[BonerBoy]

Boner, I was trying to keep this civil. I can see that's not something you're capable of. No one minds that you disagree, but you're a complete asshole about it.

I dont think I was so far out of line in my response to Dr. M, it used to be that when people made false or misleading statements on this board they would be flamed, imo this was a great way to stop all the myths and bs from circulating over the net

In fact if you do a search here you'll find over 150 threads over the last 2 years discussing it.
[/B]

I read one of those threads a while back and someone was sugesting that tren had pgf2 type qualities and that may be the cause of the "tren cough"

alot of people are converting their own test powders lately using the kits

has anyone had the "tren cough" with the test powder conversion?

 

[kwik95gt3]

ive gotten a cough and tightening of the chest from prop before-not everytime, just occasionally. Probably just from higher ba used with crystalline type powders like prop and tren acetate. How many guys have used tren enanthate and had this problem?

 

[Dr. M]

Dr. Matt is a doctor, and has gone through med school, so dont think you are God just because you correct one of his statements.

Actually, I'm currently doing my Ph.D. in Biochemistry, not my M.D. ... I don't want any rumours going around.

Just wanted to clear that up.

-M

 

[Dr. M]

OK I'm sorry if I singled out Dr. M...I just had a bunch of built up tension about this issue and finally got a great chance to let it out. HOWEVER, as I've already said, this is a problem and he DID present the information as if it were fact. Since he's a doctor I assume he's a pretty smart and assertive person...he should've known better than to post something he didn't know for sure about...

Now this I actually agree with (except the part about my being an M.D. ... I'm doing a Ph.D.).

What I SHOULD have said is "if there are binders and/or mineral fillers in the finaplix h pellets, then..." and posted what I posted following that statement.

Sadly, I had fallen victim to the rumours and myths surrounding binders and glues, and almost served to perpetuate them.

Thanks to you for pointing that out... but next time I think a lot of bros would appreciate a little less attitude. As far as I'm concerned, no hard feelings.

-M