Ever Appropriate for 18 year old to take Steroids?

[burnthiscorpse]

I believe that alot of very talented kids use AAS in highschool to their advantage. Kids who have a natural talent and aptidtude for the game who are obviously on a higher playing level than the rest BUT are not up to size standards of D1/D2 schools. Example a running back who is 5'8 (which is tall enough) but only 150 lb(shredded). Or a LB who is 6'3" but only 200 lb. Kids with metabolisms like bumble bees that just cant gain any more weight.
No matter the talent level they are just too small. Yes if a school wanted them bad enough they would take them and maybe red shirt them and try and invest time and pack weight and size on them. But its alot easier for a school to say yes when a kid is already bigger to begin with. Maybe the LB would make a good safety blah blah.... But the RB just gets to play at a DIII school and go on with life after. If the LB suddenly is just as talented at 235-240 or the RB is suddenly 190-200 then people will seriously notice.
I'm not saying its right or wrong. My dream was to play D1 ball. But in hind sight I was kidding myself. I was 6'0" 175 when I got out of school. Ran a 4.8 40. What the fuck was I going to do? Even if I was 220....not fast enough to be a safety or corner, not big enough to be a linebacker or DE, not big enough to be an impact blocking FB. So what...a fucking blocking TE? Lots of long term call for that....not. Me using in H.S. would have been a bad idea. even though I was a really good player with decent ability and aptitude for the game I wasnt at that level.

In regards to the OP's questions 1) obviously this kid isnt at "the" level either. 2) theres no way this kid is 6'1" 230 at 8%. Hell even sub 10%. This kid would be a fucking monster. Is 6'1" 230 at 8% even possible naturally anyways?? I'm thinking its doubtful. If they arent looking at him now then they arent going to start after AAS.

I will be in the same boat soon. I have a monster 11 yr old living in my house(5'6.5", 170 lb, size 11.5 shoe with a 405 leg press) thats going to grow into a 6'5" monster teenager whos dream is to play pro ball. Pending metabolism after puberty along with me stuffing him full of food, training, creatine, bcaa's ect will end up 275-300 pounds before H.S. is over.

 

[nb01741]

The only time steroids MIGHT be a good choice is if the player if extremely talented but just isnt big enough to play D1. Especially in specific positions. But this kid is already big as shit and that's not the problem. Steroids will not make him a better athlete. It would help in some of ways to be honest (being mean as hell on the field, faster, and work harder in the weight room and at practice), but in this case especially it's not the right choice. Plus he could lose everything if he were to get tested by the NCAA. O-line and D-line are really the only positions that steroids would benefit a football player from. D1 linemen are huge, and if someone has the talent, but just isnt big or strong enough, juicing could help pushing (blocking), and shredding blocks etc. but in this case I would go ahead and say this kid just isnt near talented enough to compete at a D1 level.

 

[Mason Kray]

No!

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[TheRippedReverend]

The only time steroids MIGHT be a good choice is if the player if extremely talented but just isnt big enough to play D1. Especially in specific positions. But this kid is already big as shit and that's not the problem. Steroids will not make him a better athlete. It would help in some of ways to be honest (being mean as hell on the field, faster, and work harder in the weight room and at practice), but in this case especially it's not the right choice. Plus he could lose everything if he were to get tested by the NCAA. O-line and D-line are really the only positions that steroids would benefit a football player from. D1 linemen are huge, and if someone has the talent, but just isnt big or strong enough, juicing could help pushing (blocking), and shredding blocks etc. but in this case I would go ahead and say this kid just isnt near talented enough to compete at a D1 level.

Your lost!

If he's really good he wont need to take AAS.

AAS does not make you have talent!

 

[burnthiscorpse]

Your lost!

If he's really good he wont need to take AAS.

AAS does not make you have talent!

I agree/disagree If he is super talented and the right size to meet the basic minimum requirements then he doesnt need AAS.
But for super above average naturally gifted kids who happen to be a little too small even after much weight training and diet it can give them the 15-20 lb of mass and the strength that goes with it that they need to suceed.

If the kid isnt in that above average naturally gifted athelete catagory then no...it wont do him any good. Your right....all the AAS in the world will not make you more talented if you dont have the "it" factor already.

As for D or O linemen that might have alot of size the added power and explosive strength it will give them will let them compete at a much higher level.

Its a case by case thing IMHO. You definatley cant promote the shit out of it though. Too many kids who have no shot anyways are using already.

 

[nb01741]

Your lost!

If he's really good he wont need to take AAS.

AAS does not make you have talent!

Nooo, you must have misunderstood me I was saying that it WON'T make him more talented or a better athlete. It would only be beneficial if he was good enough to play at a D1 level, just not big enough.. depending on his position. Trust me a lot of people were in this position on my high school team, and I played D1AA my freshman year of college and it can make a big difference but NOT in this guys case. I'm not trying to promote it I'm just giving my input on what I think about steroids and football. But I would definitely say no to someone who is thinking about it regardless of their position or situation, it's not something they should just jump into, I think it should be well thought out, etc.

 

[tha_Waco_kid]

I'm not saying it is ok or 'right' to take them at 18...but we are all fooling ourselves if we believe that the majority of NFL players are clean...and that the majority of players didn't juice in college and high school.

And, many of them would not be where they are today with out taking gear at inappropriately young ages.

It is not just talent and work ethic....it is talent and work ethic and many times something to push you over the edge and enhance the talent they already have - and we know what that something is.

 

[ALIN]

I have a good friend who is currently in Junior College trying to make it to NCAA Division 1 football. At 18 years old, obviously he's too young to be taking steroids, but his argument for them is at least semi-compelling.

Basically, he says three things:
1) I might not ever make it out of Juco if I don't do something like this. That's why steroid use is so prevalent here.

2) If I don't use them now, I may never get the chance to because I will (hopefully) be NCAA-regulated. A lot of other kids used them in high school, so suddenly I'm at a disadvantage.

3) I'm not your typical 18 year old kid (He's sub-8% bodyfat at 6'1, 230 lbs. Linebacker who runs a sub-4.5 forty. In other words, not some puny kid looking for a shortcut)

Basically, what do I tell him?

Tough situation and honestly speaking I'm on the fence with this one,,,but to be politically correct I will answer with a NO.

 

[muscleaddiction]

We are forgetting that the AAS section here is for adults over the age of 21...that is a rule on this site. This gentleman is asking for advice for a 18 year old teenager, so I am going to go out on a limb here and say that falls into this rule...this is kind of like an adult coming in here to find out if it would be ok to but alcohol for a minor, because I know he is not predisposed to alcoholism and it will make him more outgoing...yes in reality it happens all the time, doesn't mean it is the right thing to do. We here at EF like to put forth health and safety in the advice given to our members, I will leave you with that.

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[TheRippedReverend]

I agree MA good call