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Ethyl Oleate ~ some basic info on using it

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Ethyl Oleate ~ some basic info on using it



Basic info on using ethyl oleate as a carrier for stort estered steroids like popionate or for higher than normal concentrations of steroids per ml
2%BA
20%BB
35%EO
the rest Oil

or

Testosterone propionate, 200mg/ml, 3%BA, 20%BB, the rest ethyl oleate, painless, for me, and most others.

The same formula can be used with trenbolone acetate, Masteron, or a 200mg combo of any of the above, all pain free.

from whitey
There's been a lot of confusion over ethyl oleate, and for good reason I think. There have been a wide mix of good and bad experiences with ethyl oleate based brews. And while I've written some thoughts about this I just recently shared these thoughts with a bro. I'm sure much of this has been said, but perhaps this can do some good in the way of setting expectations properly on what can be achieved with ethyl oleate.

Here's my theory on ethyl oleate and Testosterone propionate, in a nutshell:
It's not a silver bullet. People respond differently to prop than others. Some people are okay with it, some people not, some people really not.

ethyl oleate slows the release of Testosterone propionate into the system, and stabilizes the solution in the injection site. This helps prevent crashing, and reduces pain significantly by providing a smooth sustained release. But, bottom line, prop is still getting released in your system. Therefore, if you are super sensitive to prop, you'll still have some pain, although with a good formulation, it should be greatly reduced. If you're not very sensitive to Testosterone propionate, on the other hand, you may be able to run it painlessly, or even at very high concentrations, with the addition of ethyl oleate. This is why you have such a variance of results being reported right now.

I think most people would be able to tolerate a 50mg/ml viromone-type concentration pretty well. And if you're a sensitive type, I'd recommend starting there, or at 75mg. 100mg is a good place to start, from the standpoint that it is easier to add solvents to lower the concentration, than to go the other way. But, in a nutshell, ethyl oleate improves pain by let's say 50 or maybe even 75%, but if prop absolutely kills you, maybe it will only mame you with ethyl oleate. It's still very much an individual thing, dependent on the individual's response to a particular compound/ester, and the concentration at which that individual attempts to use that compound
 
Ethyl Oleate ~ some basic info on using it



Basic info on using ethyl oleate as a carrier for stort estered steroids like popionate or for higher than normal concentrations of steroids per ml
2%BA
20%BB
35%EO
the rest Oil

or

Testosterone propionate, 200mg/ml, 3%BA, 20%BB, the rest ethyl oleate, painless, for me, and most others.

The same formula can be used with trenbolone acetate, Masteron, or a 200mg combo of any of the above, all pain free.

from whitey
There's been a lot of confusion over ethyl oleate, and for good reason I think. There have been a wide mix of good and bad experiences with ethyl oleate based brews. And while I've written some thoughts about this I just recently shared these thoughts with a bro. I'm sure much of this has been said, but perhaps this can do some good in the way of setting expectations properly on what can be achieved with ethyl oleate.

Here's my theory on ethyl oleate and Testosterone propionate, in a nutshell:
It's not a silver bullet. People respond differently to prop than others. Some people are okay with it, some people not, some people really not.

ethyl oleate slows the release of Testosterone propionate into the system, and stabilizes the solution in the injection site. This helps prevent crashing, and reduces pain significantly by providing a smooth sustained release. But, bottom line, prop is still getting released in your system. Therefore, if you are super sensitive to prop, you'll still have some pain, although with a good formulation, it should be greatly reduced. If you're not very sensitive to Testosterone propionate, on the other hand, you may be able to run it painlessly, or even at very high concentrations, with the addition of ethyl oleate. This is why you have such a variance of results being reported right now.

I think most people would be able to tolerate a 50mg/ml viromone-type concentration pretty well. And if you're a sensitive type, I'd recommend starting there, or at 75mg. 100mg is a good place to start, from the standpoint that it is easier to add solvents to lower the concentration, than to go the other way. But, in a nutshell, ethyl oleate improves pain by let's say 50 or maybe even 75%, but if prop absolutely kills you, maybe it will only mame you with ethyl oleate. It's still very much an individual thing, dependent on the individual's response to a particular compound/ester, and the concentration at which that individual attempts to use that compound

P.S. There actually is no need to 20% BB. One can go as low as 10% and no need for the extra oil either. This will make things even more pleasant.
 
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Very nice :)

Brad.
 
Let me correct this.
100mgl/ml test prop. in EO would only require 2%ba and 10%bb

the 200mg/ml would need to go 3 and 20 definately. Sorry.

Also do not heat the EO too high. EO has a low flash point. Just enough to dislove the product . Let sit to cool. This way it wont do further damage to the filter. Then filter
 
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my friend pick up a bottle of XT test enan and its clear colored? Is this normal because of EO or is it a fake?
 
my friend pick up a bottle of XT test enan and its clear colored? Is this normal because of EO or is it a fake?

Also keep in mind. EO is more expensive than AAS or as expensive as to make. So I really don't see why or if anyone would want to fake out a line in based in EO.
 
Travis:
I am learning and reading and have some basic questions.
1. I think I understand what BA does, keeps it sterile?
2. What does the BB do?
In regards to mixing Test Ethanate
3. If using EO oil what is the other oil you use? GS, CS or just all EO?
4. Is the reason for useing the filler oil due to the cost compared to EO?
Thanks bro
 
Travis:
I am learning and reading and have some basic questions.
1. I think I understand what BA does, keeps it sterile?
2. What does the BB do?
In regards to mixing Test Ethanate
3. If using EO oil what is the other oil you use? GS, CS or just all EO?
4. Is the reason for useing the filler oil due to the cost compared to EO?
Thanks bro

I have used EO and BA as the only other two elements other than the compound itself, BUT only to each compounds threshold.

And yes the mix of GSO/EO is due to cost. This mixture is still thin enough to draw 3ml.with a 25g. pin in about 1 minute.
 
I keep reading about how EO eats up the filter causing the product to be cloudy. How can EO be used if it damages the filter? Obviously having a sterile product is essential.
 
I keep reading about how EO eats up the filter causing the product to be cloudy. How can EO be used if it damages the filter? Obviously having a sterile product is essential.

OK, I found the thread about filtering EO so I guess the answer to my question is to change filters every 20 ml.

I plan to make masteron enan at 250 mg/ml. I use .45 um whatman filters. I guess I will use 35% EO and not use the same filter for more than 20 ml. Does this sound good? Any advice/input?
 
argh... i just started filtering a large batch of EO Sustanon and had a filter meltdown. is there a more expensive type of filter i can buy to handle this. a new filter every 20ml will take forever and cost a fortune. =(
 
Use the .20 whatmans and a 60ml syringe with a caulking gun, and don't use a cheap caulking gun. The best way to do it is to filter your stuff before you add the EO and filter the EO seperately then mix the two over heat.
 
How can I filter the EO separately when it destroys filters with only 50% concentration? I had high hopes for using EO, but I think I may be done with that notion! :confused:
 
Filtering seperately was an option that was givin to me. After a second batch of 100/100/100 tren ace/test prop/masteron with a 50/50 GS/EO oil doesn't seem to be necessary. The key is how long the oil is in the filter that is your window of how long till the filter fails. 20ml is too short. Did 100ml twice and they look beautifull! Now off to the lab to see if powder was real!
 
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