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[odoyal rulez]

Ulter usually backed 500mg a week for first cycle...what post did he say a gram?

 

[average_ash]

odoyal rulez Ulter usually backed 500mg a week for first cycle...what post did he say a gram? (quote)
I dont post too much because i dont really know too much! but i read alot, and a few times ive seen Ulter post that a begginer should take 1 gram of test to get the most out of his virgin cycle.

 

[OMEGA]

Elite IS the best because its a market place of ideas, products and people.

have disagreed with many vested interest here before but its always civil.

As far as I am concerned it is great to have disagreement because it creates interest generation and more thought.

Just Yesterday there was disagreement on something as religious as AM cardio and days before on Glutamine , yet even at the end NO ONE insulted each other and the respect level increases and those who believe in any of the arguments espoused by certain camps are serviced by the diversity.


it feels as if THERE IS MORE DIVERSITY NOW on Elite

IF I had one thing to offer as a modest person let us NOT say anything bad about anyone, even those that may have erred.

 

[Anthony Roberts]

I think this is an excellent post and from my small expierience spot on. Now I havnt been on this forum months and i dont even know if macro or Utler even post here anymore but i am glad that an actual guru called BS on AIFM. I bought in to the whole AIFM thing becuase everyone was brainwashed by it. Bought 2 bottles and now there somewhere in my closet along with some of the other garbage i bought from anafit. AIFM IS COMPLETE GARBAGE along with nova... Sorry just had to vent. Its great to have a real guru on the forums.

I think I was the first to Call B.S. on AIFM, for the record.

I did so in my Blog initially, and then SteroidSuperBoard had the balls and the integrity to run with it in their newsletter, and then it was widely circulated...

I'm not a guru, but I will claim that I was the first to call B.S. on AIFM...unfortunately my original posts concerning that product were deleted and edited by somone who is no longer here.

 

[Pikaberdot]

Macro and to a lesser degree Ulter had some knowledge and were given a lot of leeway, but they abused it. They thought they owned the boards and found out the hard way that wasn't the case. They hyped their crappy supps endlessly because they could get away with it. Let's face it, the board needs advertising dollars to survive. Everyone who doesn't live in their mothers basement know that. But enough was enough.

You're doing the exact same thing, hyping your "crappy supps" endlessly because now YOU can get away with it.

I agreed to come back if it was an even playing field and now it is. There's some stuff sold here that I don't think is great, but maybe someone else does. Ulter and macro just bashed the competition. Greedy dicks.

All you've done is bash them. The hypocrisy is astounding.

Guys like Anthony Roberts make macro and ulter look like beginners.

Because Seton Hall is one of the top universities in the nation right?
I guess it's easy to make someone look like a beginner when you are a self-proclaimed expert on anything though.

If macro was so smart how come he's never been published?

Plenty of morons have had their material published. Doesn't make them any more intelligent than those who have not.

 

[AAP]

Not to interupt the dialouge here, but just wanted to point out that the Nelson posting here is the same Nelson from the past. It is really him, for better or worse depending on your view or opinion. No one is pretending to be him.

 

[Anthony Roberts]

Because Seton Hall is one of the top universities in the nation right?
I guess it's easy to make someone look like a beginner when you are a self-proclaimed expert on anything though.

Plenty of morons have had their material published. Doesn't make them any more intelligent than those who have not.

Too bad nobody from AnaFit (who you are defending) have had anything published.

Nelson is published, I'm published...and ....although they are red-fucking-hot experts on everything under the sun, nobody from AnaFit has ever been published at anything. Alright...sounds reasonable...

As for being intellegent, by definition , I'm in the top 2% of the world, as I'm a MENSA member (#10002233).

And before people say "I could have gotten in " or "I have a 1,000,000 IQ", or whatever....don't bother unless you're going to post your real name and a way to verify it (like I did, I.E. my Mensa ID #).

Frankly, on the internet (and elitefitness is the worst offender since fonz), everyone "could" be in Mensa, if they weren't too busy being professional athletes, and Ninja/Pirates, and Millionaire doctor/lawyers, etc...with 100" cocks who are SpecOps members and porn stars.

Just look at what Scotty F. and Larry B. did...they became Supplement experts (that's Macro's fat-ass and Ulter, if you didn't know their real names.)....

 

[lartinos]

People please don't believe that aifm is garbage. Is it as strong as letro? No
It might not even work as well as aromasin for you, but it is not garbage or bullshit that's taking it way to far. It is mosdef better than arimidex or chrysin from my experience. Isn't chrysin liver toxic anyway besides being weak ?

 

[Anthony Roberts]

People please don't believe that aifm is garbage. Is it as strong as letro? No
It might not even work as well as aromasin for you, but it is not garbage or bullshit that's taking it way to far. It is mosdef better than arimidex or chrysin from my experience. Isn't chrysin liver toxic anyway besides being weak ?

Believe that it's got a diuretic in it, so people "think" it is reducing bloat but it's not. It's not a strong anti-e, and it's not passed through the liver, so it's nowhere as good as most AI's.

Look at the feedback on AIFM.

It "kept me so dry", etc....

Yeah. It's got a diuretic in it. The people who formulated it put a diuretic in it to dry people out, to convince them that they are losing bloat from less estrogen. Wake up. It "looked" like it worked...but didn't.

 

[Nelson Montana]

You're doing the exact same thing, hyping your "crappy supps" endlessly because now YOU can get away with it.
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WRONG.

I INCLUDED SOME INFORMATION ON HOW TO USE NATURAL SUPPS (SOME OF WHICH I'M NOT ASSOSIATED WITH) ALONG WITH INFORMATION THAT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH SUPPS. THAT'S VERY DIFFERENT FROM BUMPING THREADS THAT JUST PRAISE A COMPANIES PRODUCT. SURE, I'M GOING TO SUGGEST MY STUFF, NOT BECAUSE I SELL THEM, BUT BECAUSE I DESIGNED THEM. AND I DESIGNED THEM TO BE THE BEST. I'M PROUD OF THAT. MEANWHILE SOME GUYS DON'T EVEN KNOW THE INGREDIENTS IN WHAT THEY SELL. THE FORMULA FOR "UNLEASHED" HAS BEEN COPIED SEVERAL TIMES OVER. YOU NEED TO LEARN THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN INFORMATION AND BLATANT PROMOTION.


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All you've done is bash them. The hypocrisy is astounding.


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WRONG.

I'M BASHING THEIR ETHICS. I NEVER ABUSED MY AUTHORITY. I NEVER RE-WROTE, EDITED OR CENSORED SOMEONE ELSES POST. WHEN WE WORKED TOGTEHER I NEVER PUT DOWN THEIR PRODUCTS. WELL, WE NO LONGER WORK TOGETHER AND I CAN SAY WITH ALL CONVICTION, A LOT OF THEIR STUFF SUCKED . AND WHAT WAS DECENT WAS OVERPRICED.


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Because Seton Hall is one of the top universities in the nation right?
I guess it's easy to make someone look like a beginner when you are a self-proclaimed expert on anything though.



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WRONG.

THE WAY I SEE IT, PEOPLE WHO DON'T USE THEIR REAL NAME AND JUST POST ON BOARDS AND PUT PEOPLE DOWN WHO DON'T AGREE WITH THEM ARE THE SELF PROCLAIMED EXPERTS. ANTHONY HAS ACTUALLY DONE THINGS.


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Plenty of morons have had their material published. Doesn't make them any more intelligent than those who have not.

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TRUE.

BUT IN THIS CASE IT'S WRONG. HE'S NEVER BEEN PUBLISHED BECAUSE HE ISN'T GOOD ENOUGH. HE HAS NO CRED -- JUST HERE.

AGAIN, DO YOURSELF A FAVOR AND TRY TO REALIZE WHO IS WORTH LISTENING TO. THERE ARE A LOT OF GUYS HERE WITH THINGS TO SAY. YOU CAN DISAGREE, BUT ONCE YOU START ATTACKING SOMEONE PERSONALLY FOR HAVING AN OPINION WITH WHICH YOU DISAGREE, IT JUST MAKES YOU LOOK FOOLISH.

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