Ergopharm new version of 1-ad log

[lanky]

In 2 weeks i will be starting a new log on ergopharms new version of 1-ad, it is a 3hydroxy, 17 keto 1-ene, the crap just cost me 80 bucks..more to come..


also a review of some primaforce supplements as well,,i think xtend(no its not a penis enlarging supplement, though i do need one)

also some beta alanine.

 

[CrAzY Cat]

In 2 weeks i will be starting a new log on ergopharms new version of 1-ad, it is a 3hydroxy, 17 keto 1-ene, the crap just cost me 80 bucks..more to come..


also a review of some primaforce supplements as well,,i think xtend(no its not a penis enlarging supplement, though i do need one)

also some beta alanine.

~~~~~~"XTEND" is made by Scivation not primaforce.


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[Mavafanculo]

does it bear any chemical relationship to the old 1-ad?

I hate when companies do that -- take a popular trade name that was banned, and just sell something else completely with the old known name

 

[lanky]

does it bear any chemical relationship to the old 1-ad?

I hate when companies do that -- take a popular trade name that was banned, and just sell something else completely with the old known name

it does have chemical relationship to the old 1-ad.

the old 1-ad was a diol containing a 3hydroxy and a 17 hydroxy.

the new 1-ad contains a 3 hydroxy and 17-keto group.

the new 1-ad must go through two conversion steps to be converted to 1-testosterone(Per PA's statments). the new 1-ad has the same active ingredient as AMS 1-ad. Per PA's statment the AMS 1-ad that was released about a year(give or take a few months) contained only small to trace amounts in the product 5% (mostly was dhea per his statments). later batches only contained up to %50 of the active. purpously done? who knows.

 

[CrAzY Cat]

From what I understand this supplement won't be hitting distributors for a few months yet and can only be purchased through ergopharm's web site.


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[lanky]

that is where i got it from, wont be shipped until later this week, yea, i think PA said after the initial batch sells out it wont be availabe until october.

 

[lanky]

tired my scivation xtend (watermelon flavor),,,pretty nice tasting recovery supplement..

tried my primaforce beta alanine,,,nice tingling sensation 30 minutes post consumption.

 

[CrAzY Cat]

tired my scivation xtend (watermelon flavor),,,pretty nice tasting recovery supplement..

tried my primaforce beta alanine,,,nice tingling sensation 30 minutes post consumption.

~~~~~Yep, that's the flavor (watermelon) xtend that I use. 4 scoops pre workout and 3 scoops in my water during. I use beta alanine pre and post workout. I've been using the B.A. for some time now and the tingling sensation has left. Pre workout mix is 4 scoops xtend + 4 grams CEE + 3 grams Beta alanine. Post workout mix is 2 scoops waxy maze + 1 teaspoon Raw MCC + 3 grams beta alanine directly after my workout followed 15 min later with my protein drink.



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[lanky]

got my new 1-ad in the mail today, pills grey color, 100mg per capsule, slight keto enol type odor(not as odiferous as the old version of 1-ad). took two pills a half hour ago,,not dead yet. plan on running 300mg a day 15 days total. a no bs log..you will not hear the words "feels like deca" , you may hear the words "my scalp is on fire"(if it is anything like the old 1-ad)

lanky

 

[lanky]

"it burns when i pee" same sensation was noted in 2001 when i first used 1-ad

 

[lanky]

~~~~~Yep, that's the flavor (watermelon) xtend that I use. 4 scoops pre workout and 3 scoops in my water during. I use beta alanine pre and post workout. I've been using the B.A. for some time now and the tingling sensation has left. Pre workout mix is 4 scoops xtend + 4 grams CEE + 3 grams Beta alanine. Post workout mix is 2 scoops waxy maze + 1 teaspoon Raw MCC + 3 grams beta alanine directly after my workout followed 15 min later with my protein drink.



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wow, you must go through many jugs of xtend a month?Any other flavors that you suggest?

 

[lanky]

went to the gym today, nothing out of the ordinary,,urination still stings slightly, the skin on my face sems a little dry.

 

[lanky]

opened up a capsule and put the powder in my mouth/tongue , chemical taste and burning sensation...took 6 capsules today(600mg) to jump start things,,this bottle is not for a "cycle" ,it is to see if the stuff actually works,,and $80 experiment

 

[CrAzY Cat]

wow, you must go through many jugs of xtend a month?Any other flavors that you suggest?

Watermelon is the only flavor I've tried.


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[Just Add Muscle]

The old 1ad was pretty much toxic waste garbage imo btw.Most people got a million sides and no real muscle gains from that crap.

 

[lanky]

i forget what day i am on now 5-6 or so,,i am up 2lbs, muscles are a little more full feeling than normal, strength is the same, no changes in libido, scalp,energy level etc.,,,there is one welcomed side effect that i noticed, my armpits do not smell bad anymore,,,my urine still burns like hell.

 

[lanky]

While using this product i have no body odor, sweaty all day and no smell, they need to patent this chemical for another purpose. usually i stink 10 minutes after a shower.lol

 

[lanky]

so far still @2lbs net gain, armpits still do not smell, strength the same,,starting to have a mild constant headache for the past two days, feel kind of crappy beacuse of that.

 

[lanky]

finished bottle, up 2 lbs total,,no real strength gain, muscles did feel slightly more full than usual, i now have a rash across my chest, $80 on my credit card,,,,,,,,did not seem to convert to 1-testosterone to any significant degree at approx 600mg per day. not a product i would purchase again

 

[shogun7]

does it bear any chemical relationship to the old 1-ad?

I hate when companies do that -- take a popular trade name that was banned, and just sell something else completely with the old known name

Deceptive marketing. There should be some type of consumer right/law that enables us to castrate those who do this on a regular basis.

 

[bigdofba]

finished bottle, up 2 lbs total,,no real strength gain, muscles did feel slightly more full than usual, i now have a rash across my chest, $80 on my credit card,,,,,,,,did not seem to convert to 1-testosterone to any significant degree at approx 600mg per day. not a product i would purchase again

Thanks for the review. It's refreshing to hear someone give an honest review instead of pimping something to death.

I was interested in this product but very skeptical, mainly because they kept the same name as the original but altered the formula.

 

[Just Add Muscle]

There is a reason why we do not stock this over priced crap in our store.The 6oxo and 11oxo seem to do what they supposed to but this stuff I never trusted.

 

[PsychoWorkerOuter]

I second that... Thanks for the review.


Any thoughts on Legal Gear's Methyl 1-D, anyone??

 

[KD1]

Some other people got rashes on this stuff also, weird.

 

[josenunes]

I second that... Thanks for the review.


Any thoughts on Legal Gear's Methyl 1-D, anyone??

its only dhea