Equipoise

[CREZ]

how would proscar effect EQ??

" The strange thing about its androgenic component is that it is
mostly not mediated by a 5-alpha-reduced form, as is the casefor most steroids. While it does indeed form a very potent 5AR form (dihydroboldenone, roughly 7 times as anabolic as testosterone1) its shows a very low affinity for the
5-alpha-reducatase enzyme2. This leads to the conclusion that
a large part of the anabolic effect boldenone exerts is formed
by the hormone itself binding to the androgen receptor. "

 

[genarr3]

This came from some dude named Bigcat over at Bodybuilding.com
The problem I had with it was where he talks about EQ and Deca
being a bad mix. I agree that they are similar, but I know a few
people (myself included soon) who are getting awesome results
on this cycle. So, I emailed this dude to see what he had to say
about it, and this was his response.


Do 800 of Deca instead and get more explosive mass gains, or tell him to 800 of EQ instead and he will get leaner and bigger gains. They act in pretty much the same fashion, EQ is the stronger component and causes less water retention and the lean gains that are maintained would in essence be much greater with 800 mg of EQ than they would with 400 of each.

Deca at 800mg per week???? WHAT???? That's fucking nuts!!
I know some people who run EQ at 600 maybe even 800 but
NEVER have I heard of anybody running that much Deca. That's
just stupid. To me, this just sounds like stupid ass advise.
g

I'm doing them together right now and seeing fantastic results.

 

[Maxx Out]

Deca at 800mg per week???? WHAT???? That's fucking nuts!!
I know some people who run EQ at 600 maybe even 800 but
NEVER have I heard of anybody running that much Deca. That's
just stupid. To me, this just sounds like stupid ass advise.
g

Bro that's his opinion, I don't beleive it's stupid. Some people can handle that much so they go ahead and run it, as a matter of fact ultragainz IS one of those people.. I know that if I could do that much I would jump on the occasion but I can't so I just do 1800mg of EQ.....

Maxx >>>>>

PS

Gainz, u lucky bastard! lol

 

[Maxx Out]

By the way, gainzs runs deca at 1200-1400mg/wk I beleive!


Maxx >>>>>

 

[Twitched]

By the way, gainzs runs deca at 1200-1400mg/wk I beleive!


Maxx >>>>>

That would give me DD breasts.

 

[gUiLe]

Some people can handle that much so they go ahead and run it, as a matter of fact ultragainz IS one of those people.Gainz, u lucky bastard! lol

You have to be kidding me?? Damn, that is a LOT of Deca imo.

 

[DEI]

Great post Bro, I'm using it right now, and I didn't have very clear the action to increase vasculrity, that is important to me since I'm really bad getting vascular, even at 400mg. of Eq. right now I'm using 600mg/week, and at least seeing good gains in that regrd,
just one doubt :

it also stimulates the release of erythropoeitin in the kidneys. Erythropoeitin is a hormone known as EPO and heavily abused among endurance athletes because it signals the body to increase the production of red blood cells (erythrocytes). Red blood cells are the carrier of oxygen in the body, meaning that a higher maximal oxygen capacity can be obtained and better performance can be achieved over longer amounts of time before lactic acid is built up, which would in turn result in cramps and a cessation of the activity at that level. In short it improves your stamina. For bodybuilders this characteristic may be useful in promoting increased vascularity

Can this mechanism, stress the kidneys, or the contrary?

 

[Big Cat HH]

Deca at 800mg per week???? WHAT???? That's fucking nuts!!
I know some people who run EQ at 600 maybe even 800 but
NEVER have I heard of anybody running that much Deca. That's
just stupid. To me, this just sounds like stupid ass advise.
g

To you yes, to me 400 EQ and 400 Deca sounds even dumber since you have an equally large amount of AAS in you as 800 of either, only with the Deca added in you are creating an environment that is more suppressive of natural testosterone than 800 mg of Deca.

Whether taking 400/400 or 800 , your level of androgens in the blood is the same. NOw either you are a jerk, or really suck at math. Because an 800 EQ is safer and more effective than 400 of each.

I hope for your sake you are not as dumb as you sound, because the standard bread and butter with 400 Deca and 500 test has three times the suppression and 100 mg more of androgens in the body.

 

[Big Cat HH]

Re: how would proscar effect EQ??

" The strange thing about its androgenic component is that it is
mostly not mediated by a 5-alpha-reduced form, as is the casefor most steroids. While it does indeed form a very potent 5AR form (dihydroboldenone, roughly 7 times as anabolic as testosterone1) its shows a very low affinity for the
5-alpha-reducatase enzyme2. This leads to the conclusion that
a large part of the anabolic effect boldenone exerts is formed
by the hormone itself binding to the androgen receptor. "

It wouldn't. Proscar is a 5-alpha-reducatase blocker and the 5AR conversion of boldenone is very low. However, the worry for hair loss is lower as well. It does not have a dihydro component that is readily formed and the base compound is already half as androgenic as testosterone. So basically EQ is safer than test stacked with Proscar.

 

[Big Cat HH]

Can this mechanism, stress the kidneys, or the contrary?

Neither really. The only inherent danger to this practice is that EQ does not retain a lot of water. The increased level of blood cells without a consequent increase in water levels can cause thickening of blood.