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Bird Man

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Le t me first beging by saying just how fantastic this site is, particulary with steroid information. After doing alot of reasearch for the last 6months, this would have to be the only site that provides such useful information and is full of posters that know what they are talking about!

So the reason that im posting this, is that i have finaly decided to take a step into the world of steroids, and i have come seeking advice. I'm 22 years old, and i have been working out for the past 3 years. Other then protein and short stint on Creatine, i have done it withough supplements and the time has come to give my body a boost. I weight 195pounds and i stand at 6ft 3 tall.

Whilst i am a very good sportsmen, i was never blessed with fantastic bodybuilding gentics. I never seem to be able to get that cut, and i dont have the biggest frame. My shoulders are quiet narrow despite workouts targetting them over the years and i have very long limbs which makes me look smaller then my friends who have similar body statistics to me.


What i am looking for is a steroid that can help me fill out my body and just give me an edge and further act as motivation to keep going with my gym routine.

The problem i have is that i am very cautious of side effects. Im aware that steroids must be taken for the right reasons and that side effects can be countered, however i am prone to MPB. I have a receded hairline and very fine hair, meaning that i dont want to jepordise this and regret it later in life. In addition i had acne as a teenager and am aware that it may come back.

Despite this, i still want to give myself a boost and add some size. Not masses of size so that i bloat, but enough to fill me out and boost my confidence. I already have a professional diet from a bodybuilder at my gym and i have put on close to 20pounds in the last 1.5 years using it and training properly. However the gains have stopped alot recently.

Due to my fear of sides i was thinking that an Equipoise only cycle would be of great use to me. Its great for the hair and can be good with acne, and it will give me solid games and hopefuly allow me to cut up a little bit. In saying that though, people seem to demand you to run it on Test and i understand perfectly well why.

However, i just dont want to get test related side effects such as hairloss and no that i caused them due to my ignorance.

So what im here for is to ask what sort of gains (i no its almost impossible to tell) i would get from an Equipoise only cycle?

Also, whats the smallest ammount of test enthanate i could add that would see minimal sides occur?

I really think 20pounds on my body would definetly fill me out but im just worried, and being the oldest in my family i dont really have anyone to turn and to talk.

Thanks so much in advnace! If you need any more information just ask!
 
If you're 22 and your hair is fine and thinning I think you're pretty much fighting a losing battle bro. How would you look with a shaved head? Any dents or anything?:D If not, I'd make sure you understand PCT and plan out a proper test cycle. Then if you start to lose some hair then just shave it.

If I was your age though I'd still keep it natural for a couple more years. You can gain more but if you know you're ready then have at it.

I think EQ on it's own isn't a good option at all. You'd need to run it for at least 12-14 weeks and that's not ideal for a first cycle. Plus even though it's milder on sides your dick could stop working and I believe it still converts to DHT - so you could end up losing hair anyway.

Other bros know more about this. I was blessed with a mop of unshakable hair...
 
I'm young like you. 2nd injectible cycle I do notice some hair thinning and a little section receded. I have a ton of hair, but the steroids really did have a slight affect on my hair line. I'm probably the only one who notices it, but like I said, I have a bunch of hair. For someone who has problems already, it will probably amplify it. I also had bad acne as a teen and steroids brought me back to that, though only on my back and shoulders.

If you want an anabolic that won't really hurt your hair and has very little side affects, maybe something like Anavar and a bulk diet. Heavy, compound lifts, tons of protein and carbs, and 40mg of Anavar should put you in an anabolic state and have you growing. Now, Anavar is not a mass agent at all, but it will definitely make your strength shoot up and give you quality gains. It's also the only anabolic steroid I know of which won't affect the hair. You can try your luck with a low dose of Test if you want real mass though.

BTW, Equipose was horrible for me with acne.
 
Your first cycle will make you grow regardless of what you use. EQ alone is not a great cycle as its best used in longer cycles. If you are looking for something mild, you could use the above option or prehaps some primo. Now i love EQ, but if you are after 20lbs, its just not going to provide you with what your after. Id stick with the basics and try some test 500mg with 3-4 weeks of dbol at the start. 6-8 weeks of that and plenty of food and you will put on alot of size and strength. Hope whatever cycle you do works out for you. Good Luck.
 
ya ur prolly fighting the inevitable with the hair if your 22 and losing already. I had acne too as a tteen, had to take acutane, my first cycle, it started to come back but I kept it under control by hittin the tanning beds, helps alot bacne. I"m currently running test e 500 mg/week and eq 400 mg/week, only on my 2 week so if your afraid of the test, there is some non aromatizing test out there, although significantly weaker. extrememly weak since i did a short stint with it. Think its comparable to clostebol. as most will prolly agree, I think test is the best mass gainer, especially for the lanky, hard gainers like us.
 
Thanks so much for the replies. I no what you are all saying and understand it completely.

I probably worded my initial post wrong. MPB doesn't run in the family, however i am very scared of getting it. My Dad doesn't live with us anymore, though the last time i saw him was when i visited Italy last year and he had a fantastic head of hair. Thats as well as grandparents from both sides as well.

I am by no means bald, i was just never blessed with super thick hair and a straight flat hairline. And because iv always worried about losing it, i just no that by taking test, it will mess with my head and make me see something that isnt there.

Would 200mg of test with 600 of equipoise be a sufficent cycle for 14 weeks? Would i see gains from that? As someone else stated, i am a lanky build and jsut want to fill it out as the gym has definety improved me, but i need assistance!

Thanks again.
 
2evil said:
If you're 22 and your hair is fine and thinning I think you're pretty much fighting a losing battle bro. How would you look with a shaved head? Any dents or anything?:D If not, I'd make sure you understand PCT and plan out a proper test cycle. Then if you start to lose some hair then just shave it.

If I was your age though I'd still keep it natural for a couple more years. You can gain more but if you know you're ready then have at it.

I think EQ on it's own isn't a good option at all. You'd need to run it for at least 12-14 weeks and that's not ideal for a first cycle. Plus even though it's milder on sides your dick could stop working and I believe it still converts to DHT - so you could end up losing hair anyway.

Other bros know more about this. I was blessed with a mop of unshakable hair...
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Good advice right here. First cycle correct? I wouldnt run two compounds, have you thought about just trying some beastrdol or pro hormones?
 
I think you would do well with just the test , save the EQ for next time .

Primo is a awesome first cycle to just costs alot more but very mild on the hair .

Brad.
 
Thing is, i take propecia already for my hair as a precausion. So i dont want to stop that when im on a cycle.

In addition i understand its best not to mix first cycle, so you no what works best for your body. But i dont want to do another cycle. This is just to give me a bost, give me a more manly look and help me feel out.

Whats the lowest ammount of test i could run to ensure i had minimal sides (if any at all) with EQ?
 
The reason for a test only cycle for a first time is so you know what sides you will get(if any) and how bad. EQ is known for serious anxiety in some, and serious BP in some. Some people its super mild and safe. But test can also give you those symptoms too. Will it? Who knows. But if your taking both for a first time and you get various sides, especially undesirable ones, you wont know which AAS is causing it. Stick with test.
 
Thats what i ment. Except im not doing another cycle after this. So for that reason, regardless of which is causing it, it wont really matter as this is not going ot be a learning experience for me through trial and error.
 
Bird man
First of all Bro if you are taking propecia already and don't nessasarily need it yet WHY take it!?
I also see that dispite all the recomendations you have been given that you are still insistant on using Equipoise...
You stated that you do not plan to do another cycle,So why not
think about spending your money that you plan on spending on the gear and use it on a PROFESSIONAL DIETICIAN and have a trainer help you out with a routine for more mass?

Using gear takes a commitment to a life style of dedication
And all ready said try a cycle from needtogetaas ,VERY positive feed back from all the BRO'S here that have used it.
You really don't seem ready or at the need to use gear.
 
I am ready and i do need to use gear.

Its not something i have rushed into. My best friend jumped on a year ago and i resisted to do more research. And for 6months or so i have and i have weighed everyhting up and found someone reliable who i can buy them from and who will monitor me throughout it.

So as i said, how long should a run a cycle of EQ (400) and test enth (250) considering EQ kicks in late?
 
Most times after training a few years you start doing to many exercises or supersets and a lot of machines even overtraining, witch it's going to stop your gaining muscle so if i where you at only 22years old i would just go back to basics and take a look in your diet you prolly need to add more carbs and or protein to it, now if you are really decided to do a cycle you must use test so i would just use sustanon alone at 500mg a week it will give you a great boost and if you are worried about sides and loosing your hair or whatever just don't do the cycle at all 'cause i will tell you that once you try steroids you are GOING TO KEEP USING THEM it's like sex once you try it you are going to want more. (just my opinion). Good Look.
 
What do you mean against everyones advice? 'hesnobradpitt' gave me advice to mix it with a littl etest enth.

As for post cycle, i had it all set up for a cycle of 500mg for 10 weeks of test. Then i changed my mind once i spoke to someone at the gym. So my PCT at the moment is set up, however i want to no how long i should cycle the EQ (400) and test enth (250) before i work out the pct and place an order.
 
Bird Man said:
What do you mean against everyones advice? 'hesnobradpitt' gave me advice to mix it with a littl etest enth.

As for post cycle, i had it all set up for a cycle of 500mg for 10 weeks of test. Then i changed my mind once i spoke to someone at the gym. So my PCT at the moment is set up, however i want to no how long i should cycle the EQ (400) and test enth (250) before i work out the pct and place an order.
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He advised you to throw in a little test so your dick will still work during cycle. Because it likely wouldnt with just EQ. You would get more gain from the 10 wk 500mg test cycle than you will the 16 weeks you need to run EQ to get the max benefit from it.
 
You have made your point and you don't seem to want to listen to what i have to say so please just stop. His advice was exactly what i wanted to hear as it means i can run less test over that period of time which is what i am worried about. He listened to my concerns and helped me work around it. YOu just keep throwing the same thing in my face.

So please. Anyone else that has some advice for me? How long should i run the EQ (400mg) and test enth (250mg) for?
 
No offense bro but it appears that all you are looking for is someone to tell you what you want to hear so just look up info abut eq in the finder and do as you like.
 
Burnthiscorpse said:
He advised you to throw in a little test so your dick will still work during cycle. Because it likely wouldnt with just EQ. You would get more gain from the 10 wk 500mg test cycle than you will the 16 weeks you need to run EQ to get the max benefit from it.
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Exactly !!!!!

My first post was test only !

But like every one has stated you didnt see that .

Brad.
 
hesnobradpitt said:
Exactly !!!!!

My first post was test only !

But like every one has stated you didnt see that .

Brad.
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Thank you sir:supercool


Given your description or your physical stats and tendencies, you will be dissapointed with what YOU are thinking you need to get the gains you want. Ask the experienced people advice, then get mad when they give it to you. "you" stop bro.
 
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