Eq

[PurpleHulk]

Since EQ increases appetite, is it considered a bulking or cutting steroid?

 

[JuiceHead659]

I know a few people use it to replace deca in a bulking cycle. I would think depending on your diet it could work for either.

 

[Bruce]

big cat considers it a better mass builder because of the appetite increase. users of it will tell you that the appetite is a factor but the gains are slow and lean, not massive. cutting and bulking always depends on the diet, thus you can cut on dbol. its whatever your diet wants it to be. its certainy not known for insane strength increases. most use it for lean gains and vascularity so i'll go with cutter. though i am going to use it on a bulking diet

 

[PurpleHulk]

preciate the insight

 

[Bruce]

no problem, truly the best way to explain it is a less potent version of deca. you are not gonna get that huge anabolic effect, on the other hand its not gonna shut you down that hard so you can use it with easy recovery. this is the reason a lot of dudes will use eq

 

[mr. snakes]

Since EQ increases appetite, is it considered a bulking or cutting steroid?

Both....................

 

[fergie]

it can be used for both

 

[Hammer250]

Thanks for the good information Bruce. Plan on using it with Test C for the next cycle.

 

[shivastool]

just watch the BP...biggest side effect of EQ, IMO. I run garlic and arginine with it and LOVE the vascularity. Next bulker going with...

 

[off_safety]

no problem, truly the best way to explain it is a less potent version of deca. you are not gonna get that huge anabolic effect, on the other hand its not gonna shut you down that hard so you can use it with easy recovery. this is the reason a lot of dudes will use eq

when u say 'shuts u down' what exactly do u mean? shuts u down after workout or after the cycle is over?

 

[UFC22]

I'm towards the end of week two with it. I don't really expect much untill weeks 6-8. I'm running it at 600mgs/EW for 16wks along with Tren E and turinabol. I do feel a sense of hunger more frequently but its probly psychological. If your goal is not to bulk then make sure when you get hungry you eat lean foods.

 

[Bruce]

when u say 'shuts u down' what exactly do u mean? shuts u down after workout or after the cycle is over?

i mean shut down your natural testosterone. eq is mild and doesn't suppress levels hardcore

 

[bigmouth2006]

I'm towards the end of week two with it. I don't really expect much untill weeks 6-8. I'm running it at 600mgs/EW for 16wks along with Tren E and turinabol. I do feel a sense of hunger more frequently but its probly psychological. If your goal is not to bulk then make sure when you get hungry you eat lean foods.

16 weeks good choice i would run no less to get the best results

 

[chibijock]

16 weeks good choice i would run no less to get the best results

thinking of running a cycle of EQ myself, 400/mg week, was thinking bout 12weeks mimimum

what kind of PCT do u need with EQ sine it has milder aromitization than Test?

 

[bigmouth2006]

thinking of running a cycle of EQ myself, 400/mg week, was thinking bout 12weeks mimimum

what kind of PCT do u need with EQ sine it has milder aromitization than Test?

i would run liquidex through out the whole cycle until the end of my 2 weeks of clomid i believe that with eq i would start my clomid 3 weeks after my last shot

 

[Goldprospector]

i mean shut down your natural testosterone. eq is mild and doesn't suppress levels hardcore

I wil have to disagree with this statement. If your body stops producing it's own natural test on lets just say "week 3 of a 16 week cycle", then you are going to be "shut down at the end of the cycle...period. It is the same as with Test, if your body stops producing the natural test at week 3 of a 16 week cycle, the you have been shut down for the same amount of time and by the same mechanism.

Any AAS will cause your body to stop producing natty test, and it is the legth of time after the cycle and your own body's ability to recover and the PCT that you use that effects the complete recover from any cycle.

Just MHO.

 

[bigmouth2006]

I wil have to disagree with this statement. If your body stops producing it's own natural test on lets just say "week 3 of a 16 week cycle", then you are going to be "shut down at the end of the cycle...period. It is the same as with Test, if your body stops producing the natural test at week 3 of a 16 week cycle, the you have been shut down for the same amount of time and by the same mechanism.

Any AAS will cause your body to stop producing natty test, and it is the legth of time after the cycle and your own body's ability to recover and the PCT that you use that effects the complete recover from any cycle.

Just MHO.

you couldn't have been any clearer.good post

 

[krishna]

I wil have to disagree with this statement. If your body stops producing it's own natural test on lets just say "week 3 of a 16 week cycle", then you are going to be "shut down at the end of the cycle...period. It is the same as with Test, if your body stops producing the natural test at week 3 of a 16 week cycle, the you have been shut down for the same amount of time and by the same mechanism.

Any AAS will cause your body to stop producing natty test, and it is the legth of time after the cycle and your own body's ability to recover and the PCT that you use that effects the complete recover from any cycle.

Just MHO.

And I'll have to disagree with you from experience. Your theory seems logical, but I have ran solo cycles of test, and solo cycles of eq, and the test shut me down WAY harder than the eq. My nuts don't even shrink on eq, which tells me I'm still producing at least some testosterone throughout my cycle. Eq also doesn't aromatise near as much as test, so your body doesn't shut down as hard. When you have high levels of estrogen, your body quits producing test because it thinks your test levels are too high. Eq doesn't effect this feedback loop near as much as test. It's also less androgenic, and doesn't affect the androgen loop as much either. EQ will NOT shut you down as hard as test!

 

[krishna]

And I've ran eq for twice as long as I have test and still recovered way faster and easier with less pct. You can plug all the theories you want, but I'm talking from experience.

 

[Bruce]

krish in the hizzy. all i have to say to goldprospector is try doing deca 600mg for 12 weeks and recovering compared to 500mg of test e, or 600mg of eq. you are gonna have a hell of a time recovering from the deca, proabably will have a limp dick and no libido. the test e won't be hard to come off like the deca, you'll need hcg to bring the boys back to size and you should be ok with a good pct. eq can be taken and your sex drive does not diminish, you don't get a limp dick and recovery is often very simple and quick. its just like the whole anavar is as toxic as dbol argument. no it isn't, eq is much more mild it may shut you down a bit, hell primo might suppress a bit, it does not mean it will even compare to coming off a high dose of test, tren or deca.

And I'll have to disagree with you from experience. Your theory seems logical, but I have ran solo cycles of test, and solo cycles of eq, and the test shut me down WAY harder than the eq. My nuts don't even shrink on eq, which tells me I'm still producing at least some testosterone throughout my cycle. Eq also doesn't aromatise near as much as test, so your body doesn't shut down as hard. When you have high levels of estrogen, your body quits producing test because it thinks your test levels are too high. Eq doesn't effect this feedback loop near as much as test. It's also less androgenic, and doesn't affect the androgen loop as much either. EQ will NOT shut you down as hard as test!