bullshit, I am lived on eq only cycles for quite long periods as my body does well on it. never ever have done more than 600 mg least 400. my natural body now is one that has lost very little size just some tone from not working out. i take no nor have i taken any gear since May minus 1 week I was on. Eq allowed me to keep gains I made 10 -15 pounds was correct but it has increased my natural strength and size ten fold. i thinik this can only be answered by folks who have lived on eq cycles.