Epistane/havoc 2 on 4 off cycle please crit this one!

[larrynh]

hello everyone Ineed help with my Epistane cycle I have 1 bottle of epis and 1 of hemodrol Im trying to do a stck with minimal shutdown I was thinking epis 40 mg day then in week 2 hemadrol 50 mg day then 4 weeks off then repeat...i dont have standard pct clomid etc so i will use trib,milk thistle, 6oxo or nothing please crit this cycle,I am trying for some fatloss and muscle hardness thanks
larry

 

[CrAzY Cat]

hello everyone Ineed help with my Epistane cycle I have 1 bottle of epis and 1 of hemodrol Im trying to do a stck with minimal shutdown I was thinking epis 40 mg day then in week 2 hemadrol 50 mg day then 4 weeks off then repeat...i dont have standard pct clomid etc so i will use trib,milk thistle, 6oxo or nothing please crit this cycle,I am trying for some fatloss and muscle hardness thanks
larry

~~~~~Are you saying that your going to us havoc for only one week then hemadrol for one week? Then 4 weeks off and repeat? Bah! If you're concerned about sides, pulse the havoc, every other day or only workout days until the bottle is finished, then take some time off then try the hemadrol.

Whatever you do, don't use them together. You would be combining methlyated compounds and your liver wont speak to you anymore.

Example: If you pulse the havoc, (90-10mg. caps per bottle, right?) 40mgs. every other day, you'll have a 45 day cycle. Bout 6 weeks. Take another 4 to 6 weeks off for pct and then give Hemadrol a shot. You have one bottle and I'm ASSuming it's EST's so you'll have a 30 day cycle here. PCT for another 30 days.

That's the way I'd use them. Again, not together!


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[larrynh]

~~~~~Are you saying that your going to us havoc for only one week then hemadrol for one week? Then 4 weeks off and repeat? Bah! If you're concerned about sides, pulse the havoc, every other day or only workout days until the bottle is finished, then take some time off then try the hemadrol.

Whatever you do, don't use them together. You would be combining methlyated compounds and your liver wont speak to you anymore.

Example: If you pulse the havoc, (90-10mg. caps per bottle, right?) 40mgs. every other day, you'll have a 45 day cycle. Bout 6 weeks. Take another 4 to 6 weeks off for pct and then give Hemadrol a shot. You have one bottle and I'm ASSuming it's EST's so you'll have a 30 day cycle here. PCT for another 30 days.

That's the way I'd use them. Again, not together!

thanks crazy cat for taking the time to reply,I like the idea of pulsing, the only thing is i read pulsing could create sides because the bodies not getting a consistent amount of testosterone and may yo-yo the hormones because i wouldnt be taking it everyday dude is this a concern? thanks in advance for your help Big guy
Larry-

 

[CrAzY Cat]

Pulsing = less sides.

If you're concerned with your test level then what I would do is use P.P.'s "Sustain Alpha" right along with your epi/havoc. The combo of the pulsing and using S.A. should work out fine for you, in my opinion


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[ekbenzo]

^everything he said if you really wanted minimal sides.

also if u still want to stick to 2on4off just stick with epi first time around then hemodrol next cycle.like what cat said,ur liver will be gangbanged if u use 2 methyls.

i would also recommend anabolic innovations cycle support(or life support the capped version).it has stuff for ur liver,blood pressure,cholesterol and prostate.

as far as pct i would add a good resveratrol product like sustain or post cycle support along your 6-oxo.i would prefer a fadogia product like t-force or primal male over any trib product.

 

[larrynh]

^everything he said if you really wanted minimal sides.

also if u still want to stick to 2on4off just stick with epi first time around then hemodrol next cycle.like what cat said,ur liver will be gangbanged if u use 2 methyls.

i would also recommend anabolic innovations cycle support(or life support the capped version).it has stuff for ur liver,blood pressure,cholesterol and prostate.

as far as pct i would add a good resveratrol product like sustain or post cycle support along your 6-oxo.i would prefer a fadogia product like t-force or primal male over any trib product.

Thankyou ekbenzo, sounds like a great plan,I hope this works out for good results, a little bigger and lower body fat, lets see what happens, do you think I could maintain after the 2 week cycle with just trib or resveratrol and maybe ill throw in HMB ,was trying to get the cheapest after cycle support I can find,my dosing schedule for the Epistane is 20 mg in the morning then 6 hours later 10-20mg ,I was Thinking if i need to taper the dosage towards the end of week 2. .... Also I started taking DHEA at night at 25mg with milk thistle thanks in advance for your help

 

[CrAzY Cat]

^everything he said if you really wanted minimal sides.

also if u still want to stick to 2on4off just stick with epi first time around then hemodrol next cycle.like what cat said,ur liver will be gangbanged if u use 2 methyls.

i would also recommend anabolic innovations cycle support(or life support the capped version).it has stuff for ur liver,blood pressure,cholesterol and prostate.

as far as pct i would add a good resveratrol product like sustain or post cycle support along your 6-oxo.i would prefer a fadogia product like t-force or primal male over any trib product.

YEP! YEP! TO ALL THAT.


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[CrAzY Cat]

Thankyou ekbenzo, sounds like a great plan,I hope this works out for good results, a little bigger and lower body fat, lets see what happens, do you think I could maintain after the 2 week cycle with just trib or resveratrol and maybe ill throw in HMB ,was trying to get the cheapest after cycle support I can find,my dosing schedule for the Epistane is 20 mg in the morning then 6 hours later 10-20mg ,I was Thinking if i need to taper the dosage towards the end of week 2. .... Also I started taking DHEA at night at 25mg with milk thistle thanks in advance for your help

~~~~NAC is good for the liver, maybe better than milk thistle.


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[needtogetaas]

^everything he said if you really wanted minimal sides.

also if u still want to stick to 2on4off just stick with epi first time around then hemodrol next cycle.like what cat said,ur liver will be gangbanged if u use 2 methyls.

i would also recommend anabolic innovations cycle support(or life support the capped version).it has stuff for ur liver,blood pressure,cholesterol and prostate.

as far as pct i would add a good resveratrol product like sustain or post cycle support along your 6-oxo.i would prefer a fadogia product like t-force or primal male over any trib product.

Deff sustain alpha would be the best pct for this. http://www.primordialperformance.com/derm_sust_intro.cfm pm me for discounts to.