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Ephedrine HCL
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chewyxrage
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state of euphoria? no way
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satchboogie
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big rebound affect with efedrine. be careful!
wnt2bBeast
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how much caffeine you stacking with it?
gymratforlife
Banned
I use it for a prework out stimulant while cutting only because it supresses my appetite way too much while I am bulking to use it.
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satchboogie
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i love efedrine very much!
and also hate it too!
when you're on it, you feel invincible.
weights are up 10% and workouts seem to go on forever.
but the next day you feel like a semi truck ran over you a few times.
thats the rebound affect. if you can deal with the fatigue the next day you're a better man than i.
i now only use it on special occasions..
like days i wanna break a PR.
or on contest days when i wanna look shredded as it leans me out dramatically.
law of physics:
EVERY ACTION HAS AN EQUAL OR GREATER REACTION.
and also hate it too!
when you're on it, you feel invincible.
weights are up 10% and workouts seem to go on forever.
but the next day you feel like a semi truck ran over you a few times.
thats the rebound affect. if you can deal with the fatigue the next day you're a better man than i.
i now only use it on special occasions..
like days i wanna break a PR.
or on contest days when i wanna look shredded as it leans me out dramatically.
law of physics:
EVERY ACTION HAS AN EQUAL OR GREATER REACTION.
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satchboogie
Guest
allow me to go a little deeper:
the pros of efedrine:
1) increased strenght
2) increased alterness
3) sharper insticts
4) smoother mechanics
5) decreaed appetite
6) increases vascularity
7) good pumps
the cons of efedrine:
1) cns destroyer.. and you feel it the next day!
2) major fatigue the day after
3) sleeping disorders
4) appetite comes back times 10!!
is it really worth it?
yes and no.
it all depends what you value more.
i used to absolutely love efedrine!
in fact, couldnt workout without it.
but my cns was so destroyed that i FORCED myself to stay off it.
it got to a point that i had zero energy to get out of bed.
i slept a 10 hour night, and another 3-4 hours in the afternoon and STILL was very tired.
this was after prolonged efedrine use.
it took 10 days of non-stop sleeping and eating to get back to somewhat of a normal state.
now, only on rare occasion ill pop 50mg knowing very well the next day is gonna be a nightmare.
the pros of efedrine:
1) increased strenght
2) increased alterness
3) sharper insticts
4) smoother mechanics
5) decreaed appetite
6) increases vascularity
7) good pumps
the cons of efedrine:
1) cns destroyer.. and you feel it the next day!
2) major fatigue the day after
3) sleeping disorders
4) appetite comes back times 10!!
is it really worth it?
yes and no.
it all depends what you value more.
i used to absolutely love efedrine!
in fact, couldnt workout without it.
but my cns was so destroyed that i FORCED myself to stay off it.
it got to a point that i had zero energy to get out of bed.
i slept a 10 hour night, and another 3-4 hours in the afternoon and STILL was very tired.
this was after prolonged efedrine use.
it took 10 days of non-stop sleeping and eating to get back to somewhat of a normal state.
now, only on rare occasion ill pop 50mg knowing very well the next day is gonna be a nightmare.
JKurz1
Banned
satchboogie said:
WELL, what is prolonged use? I take 1 tab every am before I hit the cardio. I have no problem sleeping at night and no problem getting up....well, aside from the normal "NOOOO!!!!!" AND, my appetite sucks all the time.......if I take it after lunch, it keeps me from the "lunch hangover", but that's it.....maybe since my dose is so low????
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satchboogie
Guest
bro JKURZ..
you wont realize the cons of efedrine until you stop taking it alltogether.
your situation is quite typical of efedrine use.
youll take 1 tab a day..
and another tab the next day.
and on and on for a few weeks/months straight.
try to take a few days off and your body will hate you.
but sooner or later, youll have to do it my man.
you wont realize the cons of efedrine until you stop taking it alltogether.
your situation is quite typical of efedrine use.
youll take 1 tab a day..
and another tab the next day.
and on and on for a few weeks/months straight.
try to take a few days off and your body will hate you.
but sooner or later, youll have to do it my man.
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satchboogie
Guest
25mg is barely enough to feel anything..
and after a while, your body will build tolerance to that dose.
if you MUST use efedrine, its best used 1 week on/1 week off..
or 2 days on/2 days off.
and after a while, your body will build tolerance to that dose.
if you MUST use efedrine, its best used 1 week on/1 week off..
or 2 days on/2 days off.
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satchboogie
Guest
brunette said:
after reading this thread, you STILL wanna use it?
well..
i suppose 25mg a day for a 50kg woman is plenty.
i wouldnt recommend more than 50mg a day.. for a women that is!
say.. is that you in the avatar?
if yes, dont read any of my threads on the chat boards or on meso..
i was only kidding...
gymratforlife
Banned
25mg prior to the work out at random times,by random times I mean to use once in a while and not ed.I think the key here is to not develop a regular pattern of using this stuff and to use it only when you really need that kick in the ass.Anthrax said:Satch , are you an FDA agent trying to prevent us, poor innocent folks, to take Eph HCl
Should we draw the conclusion that Eph can be more harmful than DNP and T3 ?
Joking aside, what would you recommend for "just" a little kick in the ass before a workout ?
SoreArms
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I'm currnently cycling 25mg e, 200mg c (plus many cups of coffee through out the day) and 330mg a, three times per day, five days on, 2 days off.
I'm a big caffeine junkey so while I didn't feel much of a kick when I first took it, I know it's still having thermogenic effects because I'm sweatier. I'm also more alert, not tired through out the day and my appetite is way down, I often have to remind myself to eat instead of my stomach reminding me. The days I don't take it though, I need extra caf to get me through the day. I drink espresso instead of coffee on those days.
It's also a life saver for hangovers (double the dosage)
I recentlyl posted on the chat board asking about anything that can be taken to help diminish the withdrawal effects.
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=336259
L-tyrosine
L-Tyrosine can be converted by neurons in the brain to dopamine and norepinephrine (noradrenaline), hormones which are depleted by stress, overwork and certain drugs. By replenishing norepinephrine in the brain, mental energy levels are enhanced, some forms of depression are alleviated, and a feeling of contentment often occurs. In addition, the conversion step from L-Tyrosine to norepinephrine may be enhanced if the cofactors (vitamins B6 and C) are included.
as well as ALCAR and GTE, but I have no idea what GTE is.
I'm a big caffeine junkey so while I didn't feel much of a kick when I first took it, I know it's still having thermogenic effects because I'm sweatier. I'm also more alert, not tired through out the day and my appetite is way down, I often have to remind myself to eat instead of my stomach reminding me. The days I don't take it though, I need extra caf to get me through the day. I drink espresso instead of coffee on those days.
It's also a life saver for hangovers (double the dosage)
I recentlyl posted on the chat board asking about anything that can be taken to help diminish the withdrawal effects.
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=336259
L-tyrosine
L-Tyrosine can be converted by neurons in the brain to dopamine and norepinephrine (noradrenaline), hormones which are depleted by stress, overwork and certain drugs. By replenishing norepinephrine in the brain, mental energy levels are enhanced, some forms of depression are alleviated, and a feeling of contentment often occurs. In addition, the conversion step from L-Tyrosine to norepinephrine may be enhanced if the cofactors (vitamins B6 and C) are included.
as well as ALCAR and GTE, but I have no idea what GTE is.
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