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question about stopping ECA

SoreArms

SoreArms

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I'm about to finish a 5 week ECA cycle this week and will stop taking ECA for 1-2 weeks. Is it still OK to take caffeine during this 1-2 week brake? I don't know how I'll cope if I cant. Also, what are good things to take to help with the withdrawals that I'm sure I'll get?

Thanks in advance buds
 
That is fine to take caffeine...lower the dose and take 2g l-tyrosine and some GTE and ALCAR thereafter :D

Maybe shoot for 270mg EGCG as well ;)
 
I don't know what all that shit is so I'm gonna look it up. Is this stuff that I can find at a nutrition store or is this stuff I'll have to find an alternate "source" for?

thanks buds
 
bulldog3434 said:
take caffeine and l-tyrosine and dl-phenylanine when you drop the ephedrine
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L-phenylalanine is an essential amino acid which can be converted to L-Tyrosine by a complex biochemical process which takes place in the liver. L-Tyrosine can be converted by neurons in the brain to dopamine and norepinephrine (noradrenaline), hormones which are depleted by stress, overwork and certain drugs. By replenishing norepinephrine in the brain, mental energy levels are enhanced, some forms of depression are alleviated, and a feeling of contentment often occurs. Because of the liver conversion necessary for L-phenylalanine to have these effects, L-Tyrosine is often faster acting. In addition, the conversion step from L-Tyrosine to norepinephrine may be enhanced if the cofactors (vitamins B6 and C) are included.
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according to this, taking both L-tyrosine and dl-phenylalanine would be redundant

any reason to take both?
 
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sawastea said:
That is fine to take caffeine...lower the dose and take 2g l-tyrosine and some GTE and ALCAR thereafter :D

Maybe shoot for 270mg EGCG as well ;)
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Epigallocatechin Gallate (EGCG) is an anti-oxidant polyphenol flavonoid isolated from green tea. Its possible benefit as a nutritional chemopreventive agent for cancer, atherosclerosis, and neurodegenerative diseases is generating increased scientific interest. EGCG has demonstrated chemopreventive and chemotherapeutic actions in cellular and animal models of cancer


EGCG selectively induces apoptosis in human carcinoma cell lines.
It inhibits MAP kinase mediated signaling pathways.

EGCG blocks the activation of EGF receptors and HER-2 receptors which are over-expressed or constitutively active in many human malignancies.

It interferes with angiogenesis by suppressing VEGF activity, VE-cadherin phosphorylation and matrix metalloproteinase activity.

EGCG inhibits telomerase and DNA methyltransferase, two enzymes involved in cancer gene expression and cellular immortality.

EGCG's anti-oxidant action protects cells from lipid peroxidation and DNA damage induced by reactive free radicals
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Sawas, I've been meaning to pick some ALCAR for a while so this is the perfect excuse to justify its cost

EGCG sounds like a good supp, but how is it helpfull post Ephedrine?

Oh and whats GTE?
 
Is that Ephedrine HCL you are taking???? 5 weeks on with no break? If so, be prepared for a pretty horrid rebound effect............it ain't fun!
 
JKurz1 said:
Is that Ephedrine HCL you are taking???? 5 weeks on with no break? If so, be prepared for a pretty horrid rebound effect............it ain't fun!
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five weeks on mon-fri, sat and sun off
 
how much are you takin a day? If you cycle off on the weekends, you're fine.....nothing wrong with some caffeine too......just take it easy.
 
saint808 said:
i'd reccomend sucking it up and go cold turkey.
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I'm a caffeine junky and go insane when I don't have my morning coffee. Now that I've gotten used to kick of caffeine + ephedrine I can only imagine the horrors of the withdrawal effects
 
JKurz1 said:
how much are you takin a day? If you cycle off on the weekends, you're fine.....nothing wrong with some caffeine too......just take it easy.
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25mg e
200mg c (plus the amounts I regularly drink)
330mg a (although I stopped taking the aspirin the last two weeks)

you think if I cycle off on the weekends I should be OK to keep on going 10wks, 12 wks?
 
I'm also a coffee addict and caffeine no longer do shit to me :worried:
 
SoreArms said:
I'm a caffeine junky and go insane when I don't have my morning coffee. Now that I've gotten used to kick of caffeine + ephedrine I can only imagine the horrors of the withdrawal effects
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chances are it is a mental thing seeing as the receptors probably aren't getting the same effect they were when you first started. caffeine would be fine though, just don't over do it.
 
SoreArms said:
five weeks on mon-fri, sat and sun off
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i was doing about 5days/week with waaaaaayyyyy too much during those 5 days. did that for about 3 weeks. the 2 days off weren't too much "fun," but just meant i'd go for extra coffee.

after the 3 weeks, the first 2 days were just "bleh," then i was fine.

suck it up. it's not like you're breaking a heroin or crack addiction.
 
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