Ephedra Safe Or Not?

[satchboogie]

try pure EFEDRINE SULPHATE!

 

[TheDarkSideNinja]

POANTREX

Hey POANTREX you say u haven't had any problems....well i hope u didn't and i'm also hopeful u won't have any in the future being your more educated about the substance then anybody else. I'm not saying everybody is going to have problems but when you weigh the positives and negatives as far as university and other research is considered you seem to be an ignoramus if you even know what one is!!!! Now i don't know what your trying to say here but you act as if Ephedra is for everybody. Are you a registered dietician??? Yea that's what i thought! Go visit some of them who have the real research and ill be willing to bet 8 or 9 out of 10 will agree there are better ways to go about your goals then Ephedra!!! First off just like A.S. it is wrong in my open to talk out your @$$ like you and say something supplemented (a drug) to your diet is good for you. You have no idea how anybody's diet is fixed in the first place, you have no clue to their health historys, what lifestyle they live, etc. and you definitely sound like a total JACK@$$ to me. And yet your going to come out and say it's okay for people to mess with Ephedra. It's bad enough how some people recommend loads of A.S. to others. I mean for the time being you may not have any problems and who knows u may never have any problems BUT....and i mean BUT there are definitely consequences to any drug you place in your body. Like i said before for the people who constantly cycle especially in really high dasages and pill form i wish your liver, heart, etc. luck in the near future. See unlesss something is happening to you at the moment you don't even think anything is wrong that is the problem with our F***en generation!!! People live for the moment and can give a shit about the future. All i'm trying to get across here once again like always is do the damn research and don't listen to fools like POANTREX. Check into some real research and then make your decision. I'm done here!!! Peace ~JT~

 

[LITTLE PETER]

hey dark ninja, you all realize this is FDA bullshit right. harvard and columbia university's came out with research like a year ago and the ephedra debate since then has gotten worse. the harvard/columbia studies showed ephedra to be the cheapest safest and most effective weightloss product available. compared to the FDA's meridia and xenical ephedrine is a miracle pill. so the FDA and company(most doctors, poloticians etc.) jumped on the band wagon to scare people off rom using it and eventually banning it, why? so they can claim control of it and make it a drug. next thing you know you will be going to the doctor to get your ephedra prescrption filled for 75 bucks a month when you could have gotten it for 30 at your local supplement shop. so this means more money for the FDA and company. then, so now because of the FDA and its bullshit propoganda everyone hears the word epherine and thinks they are going to have a fukin heart attack. (i am a user for 7 years, i cycle it and monitor my blood pressure regularly, also have a family history of high blood pressure-im doin fine) ephedrine is as natural as fukin fruit, brocculi and mary jane.(use all smart and in moderation and youll be alright! also I must say it but i would argue that more people have died from aspirin than ephedrine. also if your going to ban something, ban tobacco? not made to promote health is it? no but the FDA, poloticians, and docors all make money due to the effects of tobacco. same with dairy products, cancer and aids!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! there all out tp get us!!!!!!!!!

 

[TheDarkSideNinja]

Little Peter...

I would like to see those studies you are talking about can you find them and post a link? I am interested in their logic and the way in which their research was conducted. Personally i have never experimented with Ephedra and yes there is a lot of media hype but i have yet to see a research study in favor of the drug!!! I'm not trying to shoot down any drug just watching out for people at E.F. cause they are cool as hell for the most part and wouldn't like to see anybody get hurt. After all we are all here for the same purpose right...which is to learn, share info, debate, etc.. Maybe Ephedra being banned was for money reasons but i havent seen info backing that up but i am skeptical of our govt. and never really understood y alcohol and tobacco is legal but you can't smoke a damn joint!!! See if u can get me those studies so i can review them!!! Thankx ~JT~

 

[ThunderGod66]

hey dark ninja, you all realize this is FDA bullshit right. harvard and columbia university's came out with research like a year ago and the ephedra debate since then has gotten worse. the harvard/columbia studies showed ephedra to be the cheapest safest and most effective weightloss product available. compared to the FDA's meridia and xenical ephedrine is a miracle pill. so the FDA and company(most doctors, poloticians etc.) jumped on the band wagon to scare people off rom using it and eventually banning it, why? so they can claim control of it and make it a drug. next thing you know you will be going to the doctor to get your ephedra prescrption filled for 75 bucks a month when you could have gotten it for 30 at your local supplement shop. so this means more money for the FDA and company. then, so now because of the FDA and its bullshit propoganda everyone hears the word epherine and thinks they are going to have a fukin heart attack. (i am a user for 7 years, i cycle it and monitor my blood pressure regularly, also have a family history of high blood pressure-im doin fine) ephedrine is as natural as fukin fruit, brocculi and mary jane.(use all smart and in moderation and youll be alright! also I must say it but i would argue that more people have died from aspirin than ephedrine. also if your going to ban something, ban tobacco? not made to promote health is it? no but the FDA, poloticians, and docors all make money due to the effects of tobacco. same with dairy products, cancer and aids!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! there all out tp get us!!!!!!!!!

EXACTLY!

I'm positive that more people have died from alcohol, tobacco, or fast food (heart problems etc.) than from ephedra. Why isn't McDonalds illegal? I'm sure some fat ass politician will die from eating shitty food before I die from ephedra.

I've been taking ephedra off and on for about 8 years...since I was 16 (which is supposedly too young for it) and it has never done anything but good for me.

People are blowing this shit up to be the death drug and it's not.

So... Ephadra MIGHT be dangerous to you if used improperly...so is alcohol...so is fast food...and about a million other things. Why not make everything illegal. Kitchen knives should be illegal because they have the potential to kill if used improperly.

The bottom line is people should have the freedom to use their own judgement. Education is the answer, not banning everything. The farthest it should go is to make you show ID when buying it that you're over 18.

 

[TheDarkSideNinja]

AGREED.....

We will never see this though since we don't have all our freedoms and we live in what some peeps call an Independent Rep. Democracy The hell with bloody liberals and scandulous republicans i guess im more towards Libertarian i.e. keep govt. outta my shit!!! None-the-less yea your right people should have the right to decide what they want to do....this is America after all right??? But i guess they take our freedom of choice away sometimes to protect the ignorant from harm..well whata ya gonna do!!!! ~JT~

 

[Scottyo]

The only problem I see with Ephedrine is an irritated prostate and occasional Ephedra dick. But those go away soon after I stop using. Otherwise I see ephedrine and ephedra as effective dietiing and energy tools, that when used correctly are safe and effective. Hell, what else would allow me to live normally while on DNP?

 

[chanmanfoo]

ninja, you use steroids but are in favor of banning ephedra? i dont know about you but the fact that steroids are illegal is quite a burden on my lifestyle. why pass this burden on further because a bunch of soccer moms are lobbying in washington? i feel we need to stand up to this sort of heavy handed legislation.
foo

 

[GoinDeep]

I love ephedra. I've been taking it since The first "Stacker" came out. I probably wouldn't still be playing ball without it. That was back in '95. I had a bad rotator cuff and couldn't throw without pain. Between the White Willow Bark and the Ephedra I can honestly say I am as good as new. Plus I love the intensity this stuff adds to my game. I'll just make sure I have what I need. We all know the deal, everything is fine till someone gets hurt. Then regardless of the circumstances the drug gets the blame.

 

[LITTLE PETER]

yo ninja,
yeah i will find them, just give me a couple days, i ahve tons of research shit burried around my apartment. also i am slow with computers and am slammed with school(priorites are fucked up i know). but i am passionate about this. i will find for you soon. thanks for your patience.