Enough screwing around

[Swole_2112]

I've run about half-a-dozen+ cycles in the past four years. In the beginning, I didn't know anything about PCT or anything w/ regard to keeping gains. So, in retrospect, I've probably only run about 2-3 "ok" cycles with decent PCT. But, then I'd screw it up by not keeping up my nutrtion the way I should have been.

Anyway, that's all behind me. I'm commited to doing it right this time. That being said, I need to run a HARD CORE CYCLE. One that results in serious permanent gains. My only concern is my libido. My libido is normally low as it is. That's one of the many aspects of being on cycle that love. So, I'd rather not screw it up with deca dick or something else of that nature.

I'd appreciate some advice on this one.

 

[RADAR]

I've run about half-a-dozen+ cycles in the past four years. In the beginning, I didn't know anything about PCT or anything w/ regard to keeping gains. So, in retrospect, I've probably only run about 2-3 "ok" cycles with decent PCT. But, then I'd screw it up by not keeping up my nutrtion the way I should have been.

Anyway, that's all behind me. I'm commited to doing it right this time. That being said, I need to run a HARD CORE CYCLE. One that results in serious permanent gains. My only concern is my libido. My libido is normally low as it is. That's one of the many aspects of being on cycle that love. So, I'd rather not screw it up with deca dick or something else of that nature.

I'd appreciate some advice on this one.

Well ,you will never know until you try it! I was petrified of Tren because of what i read how hard it suppresses you,did it and didn't have a problem ,same with deca so next time i'm increasing the dosage!

RADAR

 

[sweed]

what have your past "ok" cycles been and dosages? why not the classic test/deca.. just run more test than deca so help any libido problems that u might get from deca alone... thats my 2nd cycle

 

[Swole_2112]

How much more test than deca does one typically need to run in order to avoid the dreaded deca dick?

Also, what percentage of deca users actually get deca dick?

 

[Swole_2112]

Can anybody give me an idea as to what kind of cycle I'm talking about. I can lay out a cycle on my own, but some help from you vets out there could only give me an edge I otherwise wouldn't have when planning on my own.

 

[littleb]

i agree with sweed test deca 12 weeks

 

[utahbic]

wks 1-12 1000mg test-E
wks 1-12 600mg decca
wks 1-4 100mg a-50 ed
wks 5-12 100mg tren ed

NOW THATS HARD CORE<<<< ,

BIC

 

[criffer]

HARDCORE CYCLES=HARDCORE RISKS...just be as prepared as you can be with ancillaries and info, info, info

 

[RADAR]

I ran 750 Test And 500 Deca the first time and Divided the injs mon & Thurs never had a libido problem.
You may want to start there!

RADAR

 

[Indy]

Can anybody give me an idea as to what kind of cycle I'm talking about. I can lay out a cycle on my own, but some help from you vets out there could only give me an edge I otherwise wouldn't have when planning on my own.

around 25 percent seems to work... If I run 600 Deca and 750 or 800 Test weekly, I have no sides, and NO ISSUES, If I bump them both up abit, pretty much see nothing but the sides kick in.

 

[LVTitan]

How much more test than deca does one typically need to run in order to avoid the dreaded deca dick?

Also, what percentage of deca users actually get deca dick?

first time with deca i ran it at 300mg with 500mg of test. no problems.
second time i ran deca at 600mg with 600mg of eq (NO TEST) no problems.

i have no libido issues from deca. i love deca, i hate test. deca over test for me any day. but not everyone is like me and bruce so keep some test on hand just in case.
or some proviron.

 

[Gman1]

HGH/ IGF-1/insulin all things you can take w/o effecting test. but they have there own sides to worry bout...



i did 600mg tren w/ 600mg deca, my libido went down post cycle for a month but i didnt use HCG, which from now on i DO!!!! like was mentioned earlier hardcore, means hard sides, its a game of risks, everyone has there opinions and there are lots of very knowledgeble and vetran guys here who can help you with a awesome hard core cycle, (not saying im dumb), but if you want options then heres one that i would do..

Dbol week 1-6, 30mg day (dbol doesnt mess with natural test as much as Adrol would)

Test Prop week 1-6, 300mg (100mg m/w/f)(will take place of natural test, but you wont be on it long, u could go up to 450mg week if you wanted)

EQ week 1-14 500mg (very very similar to deca without the deca dick!!)

Tren week 6-12, (75mg m/w/f first week, work your way up to using 150mg m/w/f)

*Insulin week 4-12, m/w/f 10iu's *make sure you look up how to use it
CORRECTLY!*(not a steriod, very dangerious(slin), BUT ALL ANOBOLIC!!!! will work w/no test suppresion, if you can handle it, will be awesome!)

HCG week 7(not a steroid, testbooster, make sure your manhood doesnt atrophy) at least use round 4000IU, *look on how to dose it*

Anavar week 6-14, 50-60mg/day(light test suppresion, help you keep most of your gains last part of cycle, will also lean up slightly all the new muscle you will have obtained)

Primobolon week 6-14, 400mg week(light test supression awesome stuff, costly thought)

PCT week15-19 HCG,NOLVA,CLOMID...and use it this time\

also, i would start using nolva and clomid during your cycle round week 8, right after the HCG, if you really want to keep natural test alive, and for your liver take some liver tabs throughout the cycle cus the dbol/tren might effect you... you could replace these items with other ones depending on your goals, but if you did youd have to re-arange it, this is kinda a lean mass plan... wouldnt expect over 30lbs, most likely 20-25lbs, but they will be solid lbs!

your could also run sustanon in place of EQ, and test enanthate in place of primobolon if you want serious mass!!! i just wasnt sure since you said u didnt want to mess with your mandhood, but when u use stuff not to mess with your manhood its gonna cost you so be prepared, test is the cheapest stuff and your staying away from it, everything else is expensive so if you can offord it you wont be dissapointed just make sure your diet is down!!! RIGHT good luck, definitly take a look at what others suggest, its whats right for you man this might not be, its definitly right for me thought

 

[Gman1]

if anyone has comments on my cycle why they think it would/wouldnt work im always open for constructive critisizm,, ya be a dick thought and youll THEN HAV PROBLEMS!!!, haha jk