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Engagement ring Situation/dilemna!!!!

NJjuice22

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I saw a post about someone getting engaged and it made me think what im going to do.....


I proposed to my ex last year , she said yes..i then broke the engagement off after a major major argument/fight. So she moved out and sold my ring , she used the money for the deposit on her apartment and furniture or whatever. I;ll tell you all straight out..it was nothing super expensive but it was 2500 bucks and that is a nice chunk of change to me. I told her "keep the ring, do what you want with it" thinking of course she was gonna give it back to me in due time...well it turns out my mom and sister who are like best friends with my ex told her she should sell it and take the money. ok so my dilemna is this......


me and this girl might get back together and when I eventually propose again, i would feel like a chump buying her a nice ring for the 2nd time..im still kinda pissed she sold it...thats a grimy move.

but at the same time, she is the mother of my child so the money was for the both of them.
 
You broke it off - you lose the ring'




^^^Usually how it goes
 
I don't know bro - on one hand it is straight up fucked and on the other hand you did tell her to do what she wanted with it. plus she was probably al crazy psycho emotional wreck woman at the time of the break up. but she is the mother of your little dunny, so that comes into play.
 
NJjuice22 said:
I saw a post about someone getting engaged and it made me think what im going to do.....


I proposed to my ex last year , she said yes..i then broke the engagement off after a major major argument/fight. So she moved out and sold my ring , she used the money for the deposit on her apartment and furniture or whatever. I;ll tell you all straight out..it was nothing super expensive but it was 2500 bucks and that is a nice chunk of change to me. I told her "keep the ring, do what you want with it" thinking of course she was gonna give it back to me in due time...well it turns out my mom and sister who are like best friends with my ex told her she should sell it and take the money. ok so my dilemna is this......


me and this girl might get back together and when I eventually propose again, i would feel like a chump buying her a nice ring for the 2nd taste..im still kinda pissed she sold it...thats a grimy move.

but at the same time, she is the mother of my child so the money was for the both of them.
get her another nice ring but explain to her that if you guys seperate fight or what ever you want the ring back......get a set where the engagement ring goes with the band or some thing so she will have to give it back..keep the reciept
 
wnt2bBeast said:
damn bitches get all the rights..
half the house half the assets
pays to be a gigolo maybe

Lemme know how that works out for you.... :lmao:
 
yea considering it was for both of them it makes the blow easier to take..and this time round....go 50-50 on the ring....my girls wants some huge ass ring and i told her fine as long as she pays for half or atleast makes some contribution...
 
NJjuice22 said:
i was considering this, just buying the band come wedding time.lol..what a cheapo though.

and you do realize she will expect this ring to be bigger and better than the previous.



I made sure I kept my ring from when I was engaged. She was reluctant, but after two black eyes she finally gave it back.
 
jrc04444 said:
yea considering it was for both of them it makes the blow easier to take..and this time round....go 50-50 on the ring....my girls wants some huge ass ring and i told her fine as long as she pays for half or atleast makes some contribution...


they all want a freakin huge ring nowadays!..the one i got was OK, 1 1/2 carat center stone and another 1 1/2 carats(may have been a tad more, dont remember) of little diamonds around it.
 
she wants a condo this time so spend like 150.00 on a ring this time
it may not be as pretty as the first one but it should mean the same to her
 
I was engaged once and then it got broken off. You know where the ring is today? On her finger. You know where here finger is? With the rest of her body in the bottom of the Hudson.
 
alien amp pharm said:
and you do realize she will expect this ring to be bigger and better than the previous.



I made sure I kept my ring from when I was engaged. She was reluctant, but after two black eyes she finally gave it back.



no way, she is not like that...she sold out of desperation, she had to move out and was so upset I broke it off she couldnt stand being aroudn me....this time around she would be happy with something small...she already had her chance with a nice/descent ring.
 
KillahBee said:
I was engaged once and then it got broken off. You know where the ring is today? On her finger. You know where here finger is? With the rest of her body in the bottom of the Hudson.
holy crap
 
NJjuice22 said:
I saw a post about someone getting engaged and it made me think what im going to do.....


I proposed to my ex last year , she said yes..i then broke the engagement off after a major major argument/fight. So she moved out and sold my ring , she used the money for the deposit on her apartment and furniture or whatever. I;ll tell you all straight out..it was nothing super expensive but it was 2500 bucks and that is a nice chunk of change to me. I told her "keep the ring, do what you want with it" thinking of course she was gonna give it back to me in due time...well it turns out my mom and sister who are like best friends with my ex told her she should sell it and take the money. ok so my dilemna is this......


me and this girl might get back together and when I eventually propose again, i would feel like a chump buying her a nice ring for the 2nd time..im still kinda pissed she sold it...thats a grimy move.

but at the same time, she is the mother of my child so the money was for the both of them.



Dude just stop..sit down for a minute. are you listeing to yourself? Stop it bro just stop..I don't want to hear about this ever again. move on.
 
NJjuice22 said:
I saw a post about someone getting engaged and it made me think what im going to do.....


I proposed to my ex last year , she said yes..i then broke the engagement off after a major major argument/fight. So she moved out and sold my ring , she used the money for the deposit on her apartment and furniture or whatever. I;ll tell you all straight out..it was nothing super expensive but it was 2500 bucks and that is a nice chunk of change to me. I told her "keep the ring, do what you want with it" thinking of course she was gonna give it back to me in due time...well it turns out my mom and sister who are like best friends with my ex told her she should sell it and take the money. ok so my dilemna is this......


me and this girl might get back together and when I eventually propose again, i would feel like a chump buying her a nice ring for the 2nd time..im still kinda pissed she sold it...thats a grimy move.

but at the same time, she is the mother of my child so the money was for the both of them.

Bro,

I know we have had our differences in the past, but I'm going to pass on some advice that I learned the hard way ... no, the HARDEST way ... on to you.

If it didn't work out the first tiime, then it will not, in all likelyhood, work the second time. Whatever the reason for the argument that caused you to break it off the first time, are you sure that there are no lingering feelings of bitterness on her side for you breaking it off? Are you going to be able to let it go if she demands a second engagement ring? Is the reason for your first breakup still a problem issue? If you can answer yes to any of these questions, then do yourself a favor, and walk away now, before you suffer more emotional pain than you already have.

I have been engaged two times, and both times I dropped serious coin on the ring. I'm not going into the details of why the first one didn't work out, because it has nothing to do with your situation. However, on the second one, the circumstances are similar to yours.

When I dropped the cash on the ring the second time around, there was no child involved, but the person had stayed with me through 4 deployments in a 5 year period. I thought that she was the one. I bought the ring, and we had a wedding date set. I left active duty military, and entered the reserves. Got a new job. I explained to her that I was obligated for an additional 4 years of active reserve duty, followed by 8 years of inactive reserve duty. She told me that she was OK with that, and I thought that the topic was behind us.

Then 9/11 happened. I was ordered back to active duty a little more than a week afterwards, and went on deployment for the next year and a half. When I came back, we had it out. She told me that she would not deal with another series of deployments. I told her that I had explained this very possibility with her prior to proposing. So, she left, and completely (or so I thought) broke my heart. She sold the ring and used it as part of a down payment on a house. I hadn't even finished making the payments on the ring! But hey, who expected her to turn on me so quick?

I have not been deployed since my last one, and am back at my current job. However, she did approach me again about a two years ago, trying to get back together. We tried, but there was so much animosity about the whole "going back to active duty" possibility, that she dumped me again, and left me with a broken heart a second time. The emotional pain was even worse than the first time.

Point is, and it took me a while to figure this out, when hurtful, or hateful things are said, the memory of them, and thus the emotional pain, never go away. Once the relationship is poisoned, it takes unique circumstances to repair the damage done. I, personally, have never seen it happen.

If you are trying to make it work because of the child involved, ask yourself this question. "Is being with this person going to make me miserable in the long run, and what effect would this have on my child?" I know plenty of men who are excellent fathers to their children, despite not being married, or even currently in a relationship, with the mother.

Dude, if I'm off base here, then sorry. But, I would hate to see you go through the emotional pain and suffering that I experienced.

Zig
 
ziggyziggy said:
Bro,

I know we have had our differences in the past, but I'm going to pass on some advice that I learned the hard way ... no, the HARDEST way ... on to you.

If it didn't work out the first tiime, then it will not, in all likelyhood, work the second time. Whatever the reason for the argument that caused you to break it off the first time, are you sure that there are no lingering feelings of bitterness on her side for you breaking it off? Are you going to be able to let it go if she demands a second engagement ring? Is the reason for your first breakup still a problem issue? If you can answer yes to any of these questions, then do yourself a favor, and walk away now, before you suffer more emotional pain than you already have.

I have been engaged two times, and both times I dropped serious coin on the ring. I'm not going into the details of why the first one didn't work out, because it has nothing to do with your situation. However, on the second one, the circumstances are similar to yours.

When I dropped the cash on the ring the second time around, there was no child involved, but the person had stayed with me through 4 deployments in a 5 year period. I thought that she was the one. I bought the ring, and we had a wedding date set. I left active duty military, and entered the reserves. Got a new job. I explained to her that I was obligated for an additional 4 years of active reserve duty, followed by 8 years of inactive reserve duty. She told me that she was OK with that, and I thought that the topic was behind us.

Then 9/11 happened. I was ordered back to active duty a little more than a week afterwards, and went on deployment for the next year and a half. When I came back, we had it out. She told me that she would not deal with another series of deployments. I told her that I had explained this very possibility with her prior to proposing. So, she left, and completely (or so I thought) broke my heart. She sold the ring and used it as part of a down payment on a house. I hadn't even finished making the payments on the ring! But hey, who expected her to turn on me so quick?

I have not been deployed since my last one, and am back at my current job. However, she did approach me again about a two years ago, trying to get back together. We tried, but there was so much animosity about the whole "going back to active duty" possibility, that she dumped me again, and left me with a broken heart a second time. The emotional pain was even worse than the first time.

Point is, and it took me a while to figure this out, when hurtful, or hateful things are said, the memory of them, and thus the emotional pain, never go away. Once the relationship is poisoned, it takes unique circumstances to repair the damage done. I, personally, have never seen it happen.

If you are trying to make it work because of the child involved, ask yourself this question. "Is being with this person going to make me miserable in the long run, and what effect would this have on my child?" I know plenty of men who are excellent fathers to their children, despite not being married, or even currently in a relationship, with the mother.

Dude, if I'm off base here, then sorry. But, I would hate to see you go through the emotional pain and suffering that I experienced.

Zig


your right, it may not be a smart move but hey, im not one to make smart moves anyway. lol. The reason I would get back with her is because i fucked up so much when we were together, I was going out all the time while she was at home with the baby...i feel like i owe to her to make things right..i was 19 when i met her, i was so immature...im now 25 and realize how great she was .
 
NJjuice22 said:
your right, it may not be a smart move but hey, im not one to make smart moves anyway. lol. The reason I would get back with her is because i fucked up so much when we were together, I was going out all the time while she was at home with the baby...i feel like i owe to her to make things right..i was 19 when i met her, i was so immature...im now 25 and realize how great she was .

If you're gonna do it, then you're gonna do it. I wish you success and all the best.

Zig
 
That's a hard call. We got a ring for me that I liked and was in our price range. I think it's stupid to spend a fortune. Spent what you can afford and let her know that she better be damn sure this time. We couldn't afford the kind of wedding band I wanted (we'd just bought the house in the same week) so I want to hold out for another 5-10 years and get what I want when we have the funds.

Or get her a fake and don't tell her til after the ceremony. Get something that looks real like moissanite. Then switch out the stone after the wedding.
 
Raina said:
That's a hard call. We got a ring for me that I liked and was in our price range. I think it's stupid to spend a fortune. Spent what you can afford and let her know that she better be damn sure this time. We couldn't afford the kind of wedding band I wanted (we'd just bought the house in the same week) so I want to hold out for another 5-10 years and get what I want when we have the funds.

Or get her a fake and don't tell her til after the ceremony. Get something that looks real like moissanite. Then switch out the stone after the wedding.



hmmmm..i;ll be looking into moissanite!!
 
NJjuice22 said:
your right, it may not be a smart move but hey, im not one to make smart moves anyway. lol. The reason I would get back with her is because i fucked up so much when we were together, I was going out all the time while she was at home with the baby...i feel like i owe to her to make things right..i was 19 when i met her, i was so immature...im now 25 and realize how great she was .


never knew u had a kid?
 
I think that you saying to her you can keep it, gave her all rights to be able to pawn it off and get the money for a down payment and some furniture. If you want to propose to her again, I think you should do it the right way or don't do it at all. If you truley wanted the ring back you should have said that you wanted the ring back. Buy something that you can afford, but still really nice. She will love it no matter what. But don't just not get her anything because you are mad at yourself for telling her to keep the ring, and her going out and pawning it because your mom and sister told her too. Expecially when she needed the money for a place to stay. Just my opinion...
 
NJjuice22 said:
I saw a post about someone getting engaged and it made me think what im going to do.....


I proposed to my ex last year , she said yes..i then broke the engagement off after a major major argument/fight. So she moved out and sold my ring , she used the money for the deposit on her apartment and furniture or whatever. I;ll tell you all straight out..it was nothing super expensive but it was 2500 bucks and that is a nice chunk of change to me. I told her "keep the ring, do what you want with it" thinking of course she was gonna give it back to me in due time...well it turns out my mom and sister who are like best friends with my ex told her she should sell it and take the money. ok so my dilemna is this......


me and this girl might get back together and when I eventually propose again, i would feel like a chump buying her a nice ring for the 2nd time..im still kinda pissed she sold it...thats a grimy move.

but at the same time, she is the mother of my child so the money was for the both of them.
Interesting.

One would assume, though, if you are thinking about proposing again and asking her to be your wife, that you had gotten over that ring whole situation from before. Otherwise you wouldnt be proposing, right??
 
get her another nice ring but explain to her that if you guys seperate fight or what ever you want the ring back......get a set where the engagement ring goes with the band or some thing so she will have to give it back..keep the reciept
What ever you do don't tell her if you break it off you want the ring back.. You are setting your self up for failure. If you love her and want to spend the rest of your life with her.. buy her a nicer ring. If $hit goes south worry about it then.. btw.. If you do break off the engagement.. you have every legal right to get the ring back.
 
c3web said:
What ever you do don't tell her if you break it off you want the ring back.. You are setting your self up for failure. If you love her and want to spend the rest of your life with her.. buy her a nicer ring. If $hit goes south worry about it then.. btw.. If you do break off the wedding.. you have every legal right to get the ring back.


your right..but she def aint getting nicer..unless I come into some cash.
 
NJjuice22 said:
your right, it may not be a smart move but hey, im not one to make smart moves anyway. lol. The reason I would get back with her is because i fucked up so much when we were together, I was going out all the time while she was at home with the baby...i feel like i owe to her to make things right..i was 19 when i met her, i was so immature...im now 25 and realize how great she was .
My wife & I split up for a while before we got married. Been married 22 yrs next month. She only got a $300 ring with a $200 wedding band. Its not the coin, it's what it represents.
I know another couple that married & divorced twice, then remarried again.
It's possible, but you gotta start out with a clean slate, no lingering issues like the ring. If you love her (would you marry if there were no child involved), then do it. When you do, the kid will just be a bonus.
Good Luck!
 
NJjuice22 said:
no way, she is not like that...she sold out of desperation, she had to move out and was so upset I broke it off she couldnt stand being aroudn me....this time around she would be happy with something small...she already had her chance with a nice/descent ring.


Based on this post, I dont understand your delima.

YOU BROKE IT OFF.

SHE AND YOUR CHILD NEEDED A PLACE TO LIVE.

YOUR FAMILY EVEN SUPPORTED WHAT SHE DID. (Even if they did not, IT WAS A PROPER COURSE OF ACTION CONSIDERING THE CIRCUMSTANCES.)

YOU SAID SHE ISNT EXPECTING SOMETHING BIG.

YOU HAVE A BABY TOGETHER.




How 'bout taking the money and putting it towards a down payment for a starter home.... or maybe opening up some sort of college fund for the baby?
 
KillahBee said:
fuck required. this isn't a fucking court of law - it is a fucking relationship.

No, it is NOT a relationship. An egagement ring is a symbol of a contract to promise to marry. When she accepts the ring then she is saying that she WILL marry you.

If she breaks the contract - then she MUST return the ring.

If you break the contract - then YOU have to eat the cost.

Cut and dry - no emotion involved.
 
I'd spend $500 and put the rest toward a place to live..better yet, just buy one for the wedding and skip the engagement.
 
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