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Endomorph cycling, training and Eating

sofakingdel said:
yo vic I know gear had some influence on your fat loos but their is no denying that your diet and work ethic were the most significant factors. I wish the guys that posts something like 'what gear do i need to get cut up for spring break' could look at the progress you made and see that the gear isnt an easy solution or fix all, you beed the discipline and work ethic too


Bro , I went from 240 pounds and 26 % at 41 inches WAIST , to 210 lbs , 12 % and 34 inches waist , while still increasing my strenght and gaining some muscle that I had lost ( muscle memory ) . My final goal is 202 and 9 % which I should achieve in about 2-3 weeks .

BUT , BUT , BUT I DID ALL THAT NATURALLY . NO GEAR AT ALL . NO HGH . NO NOTHING . Only used whey , vit c , vit E , fish oil and tons of AF store products .

My last cycle , the last time I used gear was december 2001 .

Victor
 
VictorBR said:
Bro , I went from 240 pounds and 26 % at 41 inches WAIST , to 210 lbs , 12 % and 34 inches waist , while still increasing my strenght and gaining some muscle that I had lost ( muscle memory ) . My final goal is 202 and 9 % which I should achieve in about 2-3 weeks .

BUT , BUT , BUT I DID ALL THAT NATURALLY . NO GEAR AT ALL . NO HGH . NO NOTHING . Only used whey , vit c , vit E , fish oil and tons of AF store products .

My last cycle , the last time I used gear was december 2001 .

Victor
for real, i thought you were on gear. Good on you bro, newbies and springbreak warriors should definately see your stats
 
sofakingdel said:
for real, i thought you were on gear. Good on you bro, newbies and springbreak warriors should definately see your stats


>> LIke I always say , you don't need gear to lose fat . All you need is diet + weight training + cardio + thermogenic ( like Thermorexin which is the one I use by the way ) .

At least you don't need gear to go from 26 % to 9 % , But when trying to go from 9 % to 4 % AAS is for sure a good idea to help preserve muscle .

Victor
 
Always interesting to see how some use BMR and count calories to a T. I personally don't have the time to monitor total caloric intake. I eat the right amount of meals with the right ratio of protein and hope for the best. I've also been told that i'm stupid for not using AS while i'm slimming down. Probably true but i've got to give the receptors a break. I personally find that cardio is what catipults my fat loss and if i'm loose on my diet I do extra cardio. the argument can be made that it's catabolic but i never seem to lose all that much. Funny thing is i'm sure i'll lose 5 + lbs. of muscle during my cut but the perception will be i've put on muscle due to fat loss.
 
protein sources - chicken breast , lean red meat , whey , low fat cheese , low fat slices of turkey breast and the king - WHEY PROTEIN ISOLATE .

carb sources - whole wheat bread and pasta . and Dextrose of course PWO .

Fat - stay really low at 30 g daily , mainly from the cheese and lean red meat , aside from that FISH OIL 4-5 g daily


Victor
 
georgie24 said:
ok question!!

what foods do you bro's eat consistently???

This is typical for me.
1.5lbs of chicken
10 egg whites and 2 whole
3 cups of oats
2 bananas
dex. pw only
2 tbsp ANPB
a couple scoops of whey
45oz skim milk
and maybe a little bit of deer or lean ground beef and a salad

This is me every single day.
 
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