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Ending friendships......

dude had sex with a girl i was into and he was helping set me up with her. i would tell him when iwas going to hang out with her and the days i wasnt hed be hitting it
 
i just ended a few......bc they were not real friends to begin with.....involved alot of partying and drinking....ready to move on.....
 
hstern said:
dude had sex with a girl i was into and he was helping set me up with her. i would tell him when iwas going to hang out with her and the days i wasnt hed be hitting it

How long were u friends with him before that?
 
jon79 said:
i just ended a few......bc they were not real friends to begin with.....involved alot of partying and drinking....ready to move on.....

Me too. I just ended a 30 yr friendship last night. In the past 2 yrs, I walked away from 4 friends I've known for over 25 yrs. Call it "detoxing"
The friend I had to walk away from last night is such a lost soul and it's her son who is suffering.
 
I've grown apart from some because of long distance.

Others did really terrible things or revealed a really toxic personality that I didn't feel I needed in my life.
 
blueta2 said:
What are some of the reasons you ended a friendship?
i only once deliberately ended a friendship and it was my best friend when I was in college (not away at college, but living at home). she and I were attached at the hip all the time and she became way too demanding of me and my time. she was so high maintenance and I couldnt go out without her in tow. it was like having a dang annoying girlfriend. i knew it was bad when i started making up lies so i could go hang out with other friends without her all the time. so i had to cut her loose.

it was hard too because we had at least one class together. but she made friends with some other peeps so it ended up all good.
 
This girl I knew in college had the stinkiest feet ever. One night, while totally drunk, I told her that her feet made me want to shoot myself and wash them once and awhile.

She never spoke to me again....and I never had to nearly die from smelling her shitty feet.

One guy friend of mine accused me of stealing $20 from him. I was out of town when this supposedly happened.....so I invited him to a party the following weekend and punched him in the face in front of about 30 people. We were friends for like 15 years before this incident.
 
I never had any friends who did any terrible things to me. i just drifted away from mostly everyone i was close with and to this day, i dont keep in contact with much of anyone, except one friend from c0llege, and even with her, Im very bad at keeping in touch. I'm way too self-absorbed (NOT self-centered) and I'm too much of a hermit to be a good functional friend to anyone.
 
heatherrae said:
I've grown apart from some because of long distance.

Others did really terrible things or revealed a really toxic personality that I didn't feel I needed in my life.

I always hung on to toxic friends thinking I can help or change them. It's the codepedent idiot in me.
It was tough walking away from 4 close friends, but my life changed once I did.
So many toxic ppl out there
 
gotmilk said:
This girl I knew in college had the stinkiest feet ever. One night, while totally drunk, I told her that her feet made me want to shoot myself and wash them once and awhile.

She never spoke to me again....and I never had to nearly die from smelling her shitty feet.

One guy friend of mine accused me of stealing $20 from him. I was out of town when this supposedly happened.....so I invited him to a party the following weekend and punched him in the face in front of about 30 people. We were friends for like 15 years before this incident.

I had a friend that used to steal. We stayed her friend b/c we (me and another friend) wanted to help her and she just contiuned to screw us over....ugh! I should have punched her in the face
 
blueta2 said:
I always hung on to toxic friends thinking I can help or change them. It's the codepedent idiot in me.
It was tough walking away from 4 close friends, but my life changed once I did.
So many toxic ppl out there
i always had the opposite problem> caring enough about people to actually be friends with them. EVen when I like people a lot as friends I still dont act like it for some reason. it's the lazy in me I guess. dont call. dont pick up the phone when it rings. when i was younger I also had the habit of saying i'll be somewhere and then totally blowing it off. wtf. i suck.
 
blueta2 said:
What are some of the reasons you ended a friendship?


Three ones stand out:

1) Erin - She was my best friend since 8th grade. We had quite the roller coaster friendship. Lots of highs, lots of lows. We were at our closest freshman year of college after her mother passed. I was really her strongest support in that terrible time and we had worked through all of our difficult history.

Sadly, Erin and I started to go different directions. After her mother died she lost all motivation to do anything with her life. Her mom, to Erin's credit, was an amazing woman and an amazingly positive force in the lives of anyone she knew, including mine (I mourned her death deeply and my father even did the service). Erin turned to drugs, I was devoted to my own goals. I tried to stay friends with her but the people she got involved with....let's just say it got to an awkward point were we had little in common anymore. I still miss her.

2) Stefanie - A very close friend in college. One of my three or four closest. I loved her to death but she was very self centered in the purest sense of the term. She was so wrapped up in herself that she was oblivious to who got left in her wake. In a couple of months time she had slept with the boyfriend of one girl in our group and the ex of another. Everyone kind of turned on her and one night she IMed me asking me if I hated her too. I told her I didn't, though I was appalled by the things she'd done. She started saying things like, "I just want to jump out the window" so I hauled ass over to her room.

I found her hysterical, talking about suicide, and tough love Lilly came out. I pulled her off the floor and commanded her to get some things together to stay with me that night. she didn't want to, so I threw some things in a backpack for her and proceeded to drag her halfway across campus to where I was living. At this point I realized I was not equipped to deal with the situation - I could stay up all night and watch her, but then what?

I talked to my RA and told her Stef was suicidal. She called campus cops. I felt like Judas but, as I told Stef, "I'd rather you hate my guts and be alive." She as taken to a hospital for evaluation. When she came back the next day she told me she understood and forgave me for what I did, but things were never the same after that. I don't regret my choice.

3) Stephanie - (with a PH) This the only time I have consciously chosen not to be friends with someone. When it was just me and her, the girl was a blast and true to the end. I could count on her for anything. But enter a guy into the equation....let's say she had some severe self esteem issues that she took out on me on a regular basis and my endless well of forgiveness and patience finally, at one point, ran dry. I bent over backwards for this girl to try and make sure she never felt bad about herself around me, but finally I reached a point where...enough was enough.
 
Smurfy said:
I never had any friends who did any terrible things to me. i just drifted away from mostly everyone i was close with and to this day, i dont keep in contact with much of anyone, except one friend from c0llege, and even with her, Im very bad at keeping in touch. I'm way too self-absorbed (NOT self-centered) and I'm too much of a hermit to be a good functional friend to anyone.


Lucky, I had two very close friends do such AWFUL things to me and their other friends.

The girl I just ended a friendship with last night did the worst stuff to me.
Two yrs ago when I was on vacation, she came over to my place and told my neighbor who was feeding my cats that she would feed them at my request. It was a lie and she stayed in my house for a week, ate my food, used all my tide, had her son live here, she used my pool, my pc and then my neighbor told me she had a guy stay over. (she lived in a rat hole)
I WAS LIVID! This random "lay" she brought over could have hurt my cats or robbed me and I had tons of my parents art here.
She apologized, cried and swore she was sorry when I confronted her. I forgave her cause I wanted to help her and cause I was codependent
She started to change her sad life of drugs, booze, fucking every guy that moves, abusing her son and went to school and became a nurses aid.
Then she pulled another few stunts since and last night it finally came to a FINAL end!
 
blueta2 said:
I always hung on to toxic friends thinking I can help or change them. It's the codepedent idiot in me.
It was tough walking away from 4 close friends, but my life changed once I did.
So many toxic ppl out there
I did too, until I got pregnant. Then, I cut them all off.
 
Smurfy said:
i always had the opposite problem> caring enough about people to actually be friends with them. EVen when I like people a lot as friends I still dont act like it for some reason. it's the lazy in me I guess. dont call. dont pick up the phone when it rings. when i was younger I also had the habit of saying i'll be somewhere and then totally blowing it off. wtf. i suck.

so this means u do love me but just cannot show it? ;-)
 
bw1 said:
Gave a loan, never got it back...end of story

This is why whenever I lend friends or family money I tell them to consider it a gift. If they want to pay me back eventually, that's on them. But I'm not expecting it (and I don't). Sometimes they do, sometimes they don't. But I don't "lend" the money unless I'm sure I am ok with the good chance I won't get it back. Only one friend has ever come to me but my family...well lol. My brother and sister, anyway. Degenerates :p .
 
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nefertiti said:
Three ones stand out:

1) Erin - She was my best friend since 8th grade. We had quite the roller coaster friendship. Lots of highs, lots of lows. We were at our closest freshman year of college after her mother passed. I was really her strongest support in that terrible time and we had worked through all of our difficult history.

Sadly, Erin and I started to go different directions. After her mother died she lost all motivation to do anything with her life. Her mom, to Erin's credit, was an amazing woman and an amazingly positive force in the lives of anyone she knew, including mine (I mourned her death deeply and my father even did the service). Erin turned to drugs, I was devoted to my own goals. I tried to stay friends with her but the people she got involved with....let's just say it got to an awkward point were we had little in common anymore. I still miss her.

2) Stefanie - A very close friend in college. One of my three or four closest. I loved her to death but she was very self centered in the purest sense of the term. She was so wrapped up in herself that she was oblivious to who got left in her wake. In a couple of months time she had slept with the boyfriend of one girl in our group and the ex of another. Everyone kind of turned on her and one night she IMed me asking me if I hated her too. I told her I didn't, though I was appalled by the things she'd done. She started saying things like, "I just want to jump out the window" so I hauled ass over to her room.

I found her hysterical, talking about suicide, and tough love Lilly came out. I pulled her off the floor and commanded her to get some things together to stay with me that night. she didn't want to, so I threw some things in a backpack for her and proceeded to drag her halfway across campus to where I was living. At this point I realized I was not equipped to deal with the situation - I could stay up all night and watch her, but then what?

I talked to my RA and told her Stef was suicidal. She called campus cops. I felt like Judas but, as I told Stef, "I'd rather you hate my guts and be alive." She as taken to a hospital for evaluation. When she came back the next day she told me she understood and forgave me for what I did, but things were never the same after that. I don't regret my choice.

3) Stephanie - (with a PH) This the only time I have consciously chosen not to be friends with someone. When it was just me and her, the girl was a blast and true to the end. I could count on her for anything. But enter a guy into the equation....let's say she had some severe self esteem issues that she took out on me on a regular basis and my endless well of forgiveness and patience finally, at one point, ran dry. I bent over backwards for this girl to try and make sure she never felt bad about herself around me, but finally I reached a point where...enough was enough.

Stef was lucky to have you......you sound like a great friend to others.
 
money and gear. Guy throws me 3g's for an order, the source I was going through I was having trouble with, so I go through another source and it ends up taking a couple wks longer. The stupid fuck calls me(asks me if I sent the money yet first) and says that he wants to change the order now, and only wants about half the shit. Well, I already took my share off the top and got my cycle. If I was not good friends with him to begin with, I would have told him "look, gear......or no gear." So I give him $2400 back, and told him that I will mail him the rest in a couple wks. He's not getting any cash, I'm sending his dumb ass gear, and he can make his $$ back that way. And we are through, freindship and all. WTF is wrong with people, they think this shit is like going to fucking Wal-mart or something. It's a fucking dope deal, morons
 
hstern said:
he got a good ass whippin for it i still talk to him with the hope of being able to f... him over somehow


nah, don't bother, save your energy for good not evil
 
Smurfy said:
I never had any friends who did any terrible things to me. i just drifted away from mostly everyone i was close with and to this day, i dont keep in contact with much of anyone, except one friend from c0llege, and even with her, Im very bad at keeping in touch. I'm way too self-absorbed (NOT self-centered) and I'm too much of a hermit to be a good functional friend to anyone.

What's the difference between self-asborbed and self-centered?
 
abolish the weak said:
money and gear. Guy throws me 3g's for an order, the source I was going through I was having trouble with, so I go through another source and it ends up taking a couple wks longer. The stupid fuck calls me(asks me if I sent the money yet first) and says that he wants to change the order now, and only wants about half the shit. Well, I already took my share off the top and got my cycle. If I was not good friends with him to begin with, I would have told him "look, gear......or no gear." So I give him $2400 back, and told him that I will mail him the rest in a couple wks. He's not getting any cash, I'm sending his dumb ass gear, and he can make his $$ back that way. And we are through, freindship and all. WTF is wrong with people, they think this shit is like going to fucking Wal-mart or something. It's a fucking dope deal, morons


ppl who do dope are dopes ;-)
 
jh1 said:
I am whatever you want me to be baby cakes...


I know a down syndrome who says baby cakes and then kisses his biceps. Reggie is that you?
 
I had a habit of making friends who were not very nice to me, some of them were downright nasty and I sat there and took it, blamed myself (the only way I knew how to be). Then I did a wholelotta introspection, gained a new point of view and now I only have time for people who are positive.
:) <---- happy me
 
Nathan said:
What's the difference between self-asborbed and self-centered?
lumberg and i had this discussion recently and I'll tell you my own personal interpretation. then you'll probably go search google for a better definition and find I am all wrong....



self-absorbed: living in your own little world. not someone who "puts themselve out there" so to speak. like i am satisified with my life and i require very little in the way of other people's involvement in order to be happy in my life.

self-centered: thinks the world revolves around them and their needs/demands. puts themselves before others and expects others to adhere to their demands. inflated sense of self-importance, so to speak.

so to me, these are two totally different characteristics.
 
I don't know that I have. I still have the same friends that I've had for over 20 years. I have 3 friends that I always keep in contact with. That's enough.
 
Smurfy said:
lumberg and i had this discussion recently and I'll tell you my own personal interpretation. then you'll probably go search google for a better definition and find I am all wrong....



self-absorbed: living in your own little world. not someone who "puts themselve out there" so to speak. like i am satisified with my life and i require very little in the way of other people's involvement in order to be happy in my life.

self-centered: thinks the world revolves around them and their needs/demands. puts themselves before others and expects others to adhere to their demands. inflated sense of self-importance, so to speak.

so to me, these are two totally different characteristics.

I'd say that I'm self-absorbed to a large degree. I can only be around people (including my friends), in little chunks of time and then I have to get the fuck away from them and back into my own world.
 
The main reason I hate work is because I have to be around other people all day. I love to work at home. People get on my nerves bad. You should see me in traffic. Bunch of idiots on the road.
 
Smurfy said:
yeah. i guess so :verygood:

Your personality is a lot like mine when it comes to dealing with people.
 
biteme said:
I'd say that I'm self-absorbed to a large degree. I can only be around people (including my friends), in little chunks of time and then I have to get the fuck away from them and back into my own world.
i dont MIND being around other people at all and I function perfectly well in group settings (although usually on the periphery) but given the option, I'd rather just chill at my house most of the time and not be bothered.
 
Smurfy said:
i dont MIND being around other people at all and I function perfectly well in group settings (although usually on the periphery) but given the option, I'd rather just chill at my house most of the time and not be bothered.

I've stayed in my house several times for 2 days in a row and never had contact with another being. I loved it.
 
biteme said:
I've stayed in my house several times for 2 days in a row and never had contact with another being. I loved it.
what about porn?

that is a must if you are on lockdown
 
jon79 said:
what about porn?

that is a must if you are on lockdown

LOL
 
i'm self-absorbed and self-centered. most of the time, i don't give a fuck about anyone or anything, including myself or the closest to me. it goes back and forth, though. i'm not like that all the time. i sometimes wonder what the truth is, or what is more true. there's no final answer to that, i suppose...only the one i accept for myself, or the future i make.

the thought of someone like smurfy would drive me nuts for a minute. i'd hate her, then dismiss.
 
jackangel said:
i'm self-absorbed and self-centered. most of the time, i don't give a fuck about anyone or anything, including myself or the closest to me. it goes back and forth, though. i'm not like that all the time. i sometimes wonder what the truth is, or what is more true. there's no final answer to that, i suppose...only the one i accept for myself, or the future i make.

the thought of someone like smurfy would drive me nuts for a minute. i'd hate her, then dismiss.
i'm very difficult to get along with :rolleyes:
 
biteme said:
I'd say that I'm self-absorbed to a large degree. I can only be around people (including my friends), in little chunks of time and then I have to get the fuck away from them and back into my own world.


This is how I've become. As I got older I find my tolerance level for others is less and less. I love being alone a lot of the time
 
Things changed for me with some people and I decided to stop calling / emailing certain people in my life.
 
blueta2 said:
What are some of the reasons you ended a friendship?


1 - They were no longer useful to me.
2 - Their hot boyfriend I was banging moved out of town.
3 - I owed them money.
4 - They stole something from my house that I had stolen from them a year earlier.
5 - They wore the wrong outfit one day.
6 - They dissed Madonna. (I don't care if it was a joke)
 
AAP said:
1 - They were no longer useful to me.
2 - Their hot boyfriend I was banging moved out of town.
3 - I owed them money.
4 - They stole something from my house that I had stolen from them a year earlier.
5 - They wore the wrong outfit one day.
6 - They dissed Madonna. (I don't care if it was a joke)



LOL!
 
Dude was talking shit behind my back in certain company because he was trying to gain popularity where he worked (I had a few enemies there). I also had some friends there, who heard it and brought it back to me. I don't give people a second chance where loyalty is concerned. Never spoke again face to face, and never ran into one another for years even though we lived in the same town. He knew I was going to knock him the fuck out if I saw him....so he tucked his tail between his legs and avoided anywhere I was likely to be for years.

Funny thing: Almost 8 years later, he lobs me a half-assed apology on Facebook and wants to 'make things right'. Are you kidding me?
 
I ended another friendship because the guy just couldn't handle himself when he was drinking. Every damn time, it ended with a fight...and I'd be pounding on someone for no good reason other than to back this meathead up. It happened too often, so eventually, I just decided to stop hanging out with him before I ended up with an unnecessary criminal record...and almost all of his other friends came to the same conclusion and dropped him. Some people just have no damn sense.
 
canadianhitman said:
Dude was talking shit behind my back in certain company because he was trying to gain popularity where he worked (I had a few enemies there). I also had some friends there, who heard it and brought it back to me. I don't give people a second chance where loyalty is concerned. Never spoke again face to face, and never ran into one another for years even though we lived in the same town. He knew I was going to knock him the fuck out if I saw him....so he tucked his tail between his legs and avoided anywhere I was likely to be for years.

Funny thing: Almost 8 years later, he lobs me a half-assed apology on Facebook and wants to 'make things right'. Are you kidding me?


It was 8 yrs ago, he could have changed.
 
Ok, all joking aside.

Years ago when I was 16, my best friend (a true pyscho - and I mean truly mentally deranged) and I used to go deer hunting every season. Although he had less interest in actually scoring a buck than he did in looking for deerstands to steal. That season, this bitch stole about 15 of them. He even stole his cousins which was homemade. Nothing but a metal lawn chair turned sideways with a lawnmower blade weilded in the back to plant itself in the tree... I mean the shit was skanky and I wouldn't trust it to hold my ass in no tree at all.

His cousin put out a whooping $25 reward. Which was laughable because the stand wasn't worth that much. As his cousin even stole the metal lawn chair that was used to make. (whole family was a bunch of thiefs, I kept good company). Anyway, nothing was said until the NEXT year when this fool had no money for cigerettes and called his cousin up and asked if the reward was still available. Said he found the deerstand at MY house and knew that I stole it. Wanted the $25. His cousin came down there to get his deerstand and saw about 20 of them laying around, including the $300 one his dad had bought himself. Called the police and reported it. My psycho friend told the cops that I stole every single one of them. The sheriff actually came up to high school and pulled me out of swim practice to question me about this.

I never spoke to this guy again, despite living 3 houses down. He tried to explain one time that "you wouldn't let me borrow any money and I needed my smokes."

Fucking idiot.
 
AAP said:
Ok, all joking aside.

Years ago when I was 16, my best friend (a true pyscho - and I mean truly mentally deranged) and I used to go deer hunting every season. Although he had less interest in actually scoring a buck than he did in looking for deerstands to steal. That season, this bitch stole about 15 of them. He even stole his cousins which was homemade. Nothing but a metal lawn chair turned sideways with a lawnmower blade weilded in the back to plant itself in the tree... I mean the shit was skanky and I wouldn't trust it to hold my ass in no tree at all.

His cousin put out a whooping $25 reward. Which was laughable because the stand wasn't worth that much. As his cousin even stole the metal lawn chair that was used to make. (whole family was a bunch of thiefs, I kept good company). Anyway, nothing was said until the NEXT year when this fool had no money for cigerettes and called his cousin up and asked if the reward was still available. Said he found the deerstand at MY house and knew that I stole it. Wanted the $25. His cousin came down there to get his deerstand and saw about 20 of them laying around, including the $300 one his dad had bought himself. Called the police and reported it. My psycho friend told the cops that I stole every single one of them. The sheriff actually came up to high school and pulled me out of swim practice to question me about this.

I never spoke to this guy again, despite living 3 houses down. He tried to explain one time that "you wouldn't let me borrow any money and I needed my smokes."

Fucking idiot.



LMFAO.... that all sounds very hickish.

You deer hunting?

I gotta see pics of your child hood home and neighborhood.

Do you have one of those pics where you are standing next to the deer you bagged?

OMG OMG OMG OMG...
 
I slept with my friends mom and now we don't talk.
She was and still is a MILF. I was 16 and she was 35.
Great times. We fucked 8 times. Yes, I remember how many times... :-)
 
jh1 said:
LMFAO.... that all sounds very hickish.

You deer hunting?

I gotta see pics of your child hood home and neighborhood.

Do you have one of those pics where you are standing next to the deer you bagged?

OMG OMG OMG OMG...

Deerhunting, duck hunting, quail hunting... if they issued a license for it, I'd go shoot the bitch.
 
AAP said:
Deerhunting, duck hunting, quail hunting... if they issued a license for it, I'd go shoot the bitch.

Deer was always too much work for me. Loved the pheasant, dove, and quail though!
 
jh1 said:
......

And some peeps have a hard time accepting that..


Very true.

I've dropped most of the friends I had because they choose to be drunk or high every day. I can't do that, and I can't be around it.
 
blueta2 said:
What are some of the reasons you ended a friendship?

I just ended a 15yr friendship with a woman. After her husband up and left her about six months ago she expected me to step in and become her love interest. I tried to tell her for weeks that I was'nt sexually attracted to her and that I only wanted to be friends. I know that we are different people now then when we met all those years ago. She still smokes, I don't. She still drinks like a fish, I'm social drinker at best. I take care of myself through excercise and diet while she's let herself go. She became pushy and mean when I began dating a woman 10 yrs younger than her so I just told her off.
Other friendships have ended simply because our lives have taken us in different directions.
 
PuddleMonkey said:
Deer was always too much work for me. Loved the pheasant, dove, and quail though!


Deer hunting is crazy easy. Get 30 guys. Use 25 of them to push the deer to the shooters. all the shooters do is shoot. Fuckin easy. Pheasant you either need a dog or go home. That shit sucks.
 
magico said:
I just ended a 15yr friendship with a woman. After her husband up and left her about six months ago she expected me to step in and become her love interest. I tried to tell her for weeks that I was'nt sexually attracted to her and that I only wanted to be friends. I know that we are different people now then when we met all those years ago. She still smokes, I don't. She still drinks like a fish, I'm social drinker at best. I take care of myself through excercise and diet while she's let herself go. She became pushy and mean when I began dating a woman 10 yrs younger than her so I just told her off.
Other friendships have ended simply because our lives have taken us in different directions.


Yeah some women are funny that way. My best friend (who's a very attractive male) has women behave like this around him all the time and he had to walk away from them also.

I was thinking about the "different direction" theory. This also applies to ppl who marry young.
People who get married young often divorce, but second marrriages usually work b/c the two people are older and have changed so much.
The partner you choose at let's say 20 is not the same person you would choose at 40. Life changes too much.
 
personal betrayal

alcoholism

out of control, rampant drug useage

lack of maturity in general

his jealous, envious wife poisoned his mind and turned him against his 20 year best friend (me)

immaturity

he and his wife's envy of me, my lifestyle, my posessions that they didn't have because of lack of birth control and lack of money management skills
 
rnch said:
personal betrayal

alcoholism

out of control, rampant drug useage

lack of maturity in general

his jealous, envious wife poisoned his mind and turned him against his 20 year best friend (me)

immaturity

he and his wife's envy of me, my lifestyle, my posessions that they didn't have because of lack of birth control and lack of money management skills

do they envy your PT? ;-) kdding!

I hear ya on the betrayal thing.....that one is a stinger
 
yes, that one ranks high on my list of undesireables. it takes me a long time to open up and give my full trust and confidence to someone; when they throw it away over some stupid, trivial issue i am outta there.

i never understood the envy thing; with their combined income they were WAY beyond me. i guess i just manage what i have better than most people do.
 
jh1 said:
LMFAO.... that all sounds very hickish.

You deer hunting?

I gotta see pics of your child hood home and neighborhood.

Do you have one of those pics where you are standing next to the deer you bagged?

OMG OMG OMG OMG...
hard to picture AAP deer hunting in his tierra and speedo....:FRlol:
 
rnch said:
hard to picture AAP deer hunting in his tierra and speedo....:FRlol:


Shit, my outfit resemble Linda Carter in Wonder Woman. I use my bullet deflecting gold bracelets to throw sunlight in it's eyes and then I toss my headband boomerang style to knock it out. Use my magic lasso to tie it up. If I can untie it from around my feet that is.
 
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