Ended cycle, 2 weeks until pct, should I cont hcg?

[rage22]

Been on cycle for 12 weeks. Test cyp/euth 500mg ew, masteron 400mg ew.
Adex .25mg eod, formastanzol 10 pumps 2x ed, krill oil, n2guard
Ive been on hcgenerate thro out cycle. And hcg @ 250iu 2x ew for past mth.


Should I stay on hcg @ 250 2x ew up to the day of pct?

24
195
11% bf

Thanks

 

[rage22]

Here my bloods as of 08/28/2012

As indicated on the blood test. I believe I have a slight infection from the last pin. Myguess anyhow. It was more red and swollen for a few days then any of my other times.

 

[underattack]

Yes i would def do hcg by the looks of ur bloods

 

[oxymoron]

Just curious if its weird to see e2 high like that when running forma. I know the test level is going to drive it up trying to balance things out but i didn't figure it'd get out of the normal range when running an AI esp 10 pumps of forma.

 

[rage22]

Yes i would def do hcg by the looks of ur bloods

how much and for how long? until start of pct? thats 2 more shots

I also dont really want to just do nothing during this 2 week period. Im going to run adex still @ .25 eod into pct. Until 1 week after pct start to keep the test thats still being absorbed in me from converting so that I dont end up with an estrogen rebound.

Hcg I just wonder about.

Also whats so bad about me starting pct now? at least unleashed and post cycle alongside hcgenerate. I want to run hcgen the entire way through cycle and pct.

 

[rage22]

Also you guys do relize that HCG will not show on that blood test right? it mimics LH not replaces so LH is still going to read 0 when running any amount of HCG. My boys are for sure not small so I feel that I did a good job at keeing them "active" during this cycle.

 

[rage22]

I look at that with a bit of question because wouldnt using hcg during pct actually cause the Pituitary to not secrete lh and fsh because its getting a feed back that the boys are doing there job at the pititary glands current fuctioning rate?

I know I have read that before several times. Hard Choice here.

 

[rage22]

Just curious if its weird to see e2 high like that when running forma. I know the test level is going to drive it up trying to balance things out but i didn't figure it'd get out of the normal range when running an AI esp 10 pumps of forma.

only thing I can think of is that formastanzol and even the adex that I'm using are just not enough for the amount of test I'm taking. I Should ajust the Adex up a little if I was going to stay on but, I see no need as this was my bloods on monday. We are now approching Wed and my last test inject was last thursday. As the test falls in my system so with the amount being converted I would assume. Reguardless I intend to get another blood test in 2 weeks to see where I am. I like to know and its good infor for every to follow along with. Its just a little prick after all and can mean the world of difference to your well being if you mess up.

 

[Muscleaddict]

I look at that with a bit of question because wouldnt using hcg during pct actually cause the Pituitary to not secrete lh and fsh because its getting a feed back that the boys are doing there job at the pititary glands current fuctioning rate?

I know I have read that before several times. Hard Choice here.

If you've been using hcg throughout your cycle up to pct there is no reason to use it during pct. Your testes have still been working as normal (minus the fsh) because of the hcg and it is your pituitary and hypothalamus that needs a jumpstart. As soon as you stimulate LH production again your balls will be completely fine.

 

[rage22]

Awesome I appreciate the help guys. Torem, unleashed, and post cycle should do a nice job at jump starting the Pituitary. Correct? First cycle, but I believe I have it down for the most part.

 

[oxymoron]

Awesome I appreciate the help guys. Torem, unleashed, and post cycle should do a nice job at jump starting the Pituitary. Correct? First cycle, but I believe I have it down for the most part.

Correct. I prefer clomid but torem should do the job.

 

[Nelson Montana]

The HCG is what causes high estro. I do not believe in using it while on. I also don't like torm or clomid. There's avery somple protocol which works best yet people always try to tweak it and fuck it up.

 

[dylangemelli]

you definitely don't want to run hcg in pct... its fine to run it up until pct...

 

[rage22]

The HCG is what causes high estro. I do not believe in using it while on. I also don't like torm or clomid. There's avery somple protocol which works best yet people always try to tweak it and fuck it up.

Just read http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/a...e-support-drug-steroid-user-bible-778853.html top to bottom...

First of all incredible read.

I pretty much was using all the stuff laid out here with the addition to torem, would this be what your referring to as me tweaking and messing pct up?

Proposed pct:
Torem 90/60/60/30
Unleashed
Post cycle
Fishoil
Multivit
Vit e
Mk-2866
Igf-lr3
N2carb

I may now toss torem after that read but would like your advice.


And it does say that hcg can be used during cycle. And I believe your write up says so as well nelson, of course that was in 10' that you posted it. What's wrong with me running hcg? I've been on it for 5 weeks, and this is my last, I was going to do one more shot 3 days before I start pct.

Thanks I appreciate the help!

 

[rage22]

you definitely don't want to run hcg in pct... its fine to run it up until pct...

Awesome thanks! Can't wait to see how this pct go's have you any experience with the use of peptides in pct?

 

[dylangemelli]

the only peptide i have ran during pct is tb-500... i always run ostarine in pct...