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Elite Is Going Downhill....

i just have to laugh at some of you guys saying the fonz qualifications to be a mod..first off he has been proven wrong several times about clen after he has been hyping its safety to everyone like he is selling the shit on the side or something....but even worse he is giving out medical advise when he has no fucking clue what he is talking about.....oh and lets not forget how he has been deleting and locking up threads...


the longer he stays a mod the deeper this site goes down the shitter..i feel sorry for anyone following his advise...


im not trying to be an ass to the fonz im just calling it as i see it...the little shit had balls enough to post lies about me and say i didnt know what i was talking about when it came to cardiac risks using clen...he has been proven wrong by other people besides myself...so if this is the kind of people you want as mods then this site is worth ZIP
 
Trevdog said:
Wrongun said:


Everyone has their opinion and rightly so. The new Mods have just been given the position and need time to establish and show what benefits they will bring.
If you think a Mod is not doing their job then you really do have to say why and preferably take it up with them direct.
In the specific case of Fonz (as VTAT states) then i personnally (and it is MY OPINION) that he is more than the required credentials to be a Moderator for not only his extensive knowledge on the subject but also his commitment to the board. I say this as he has helped me in the past and continues to contribute well.

As for the other Mods (e.g. Julez) i do not know much about them but will give them time and assistance (not sure how i can help) to grow into the role as i do feel it is a benefit to the board.

Again this is my oppinion as you say we all have one. I do think that you have gone about it the wrong way. If you have specifics then you should take it up with the person concerned before bringing it to the public domain as it is shit like this that starts these kinds of posts."



Bro I think you are reading more into my post than I intended to convey. I was simply defending the right to free speech, something I consider fundamental and crucial here. I respectfully disagree with your position that a disagreement with a mod needs to be resolved privately. Maybe some people think that the best way to deal with a grievance is to air it publicly.

IMO, "constructive criticism" is much more likely to elicit a response if it is publicly aired and others have an opportunity to hear it, form their own opinions, and contribute to the discussion if they so choose.

I agree that Fonz has the qualifications to be a mod. He has insightfully responded to several questions I have put to him, and I have learned quite a bit from his posts here and on AF. But having such qualifications does not make it right for Fonz, or any other mod for that matter, to delete/move/edit posts that they disagree with, and I stand by my post above.

If people are irritated with this kind of post or thread, I'm sorry, but they don't have to read it. I think that some legitimate issues have been raised about the recent changes here, and it deserves discussion.

Trevdog i agree with you totally and maybe my reply was worded incorrectly or as you say maybe i was reading more into it than was there.
Your comments about discussion are correct and i applaud what you say in terms of this particular Mods credentials. I was not and am still not aware of the delete/move/edit posts you talk of but agree that some people are irratated and freedom of speach does mean we discuss.
You also make a valid point about bringing this into the public domain as yes i agree you would like answers on why these posts were deleted or moved. I was however defending Fonz as you say ''He has insightfully responded to several questions'' i think we are both of the same opinion as i do not believe he should be attacked publically! you were not however doing that and simply require discussion which you are right to do.

Good luck
 
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