EF bros who have been on suboxen

[makaveli25]

I dont post much nemore but im a long time lurker... I just had a question to you bros who are on or have been on suboxen... Ive been on it for a year and half now.. i take 4mg ed.. i have tried different dosing schemes but that seems to work... I am having depression issues.. Everything in my life seems to be in decent order but i just feel like shit day in day out.. I wake up take my dose feel alrite for an hour or two, then i just feel this pain its soo hard to desribe like an anguish almost.. It like being fatigued and down.. Theres no reason for those feelings.. I thought it may have something to do with my test levels since i have been cycling on and off for about 3 years now.. But when im on i feel the same pain.. Is there anything natural that might help with this.. my girlfriend is home for a visit she just recently moved downsouth i feel kind of happy but im just not myself... im just having a hard time.. any bros with suggestions would be great.. thanks in advance

 

[makaveli25]

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[10001110101]

you mean suboxone? like for opiate withdrawal?

you should probs consult a psychiatrist/therapist and in the mean-time try some SAMe start at 400mg/day 15 min before breakfast, if you don't see any improvement in like 1-2 weeks i'd see a psych or therapist.

 

[eddymerckx]

talk to your doc--more and more legit research on test and depression---but i would not do a thing w/o the md okay.

 

[airsmith2k]

u shouldnt have to take them that long you take them to block out opiate withdrawal....say if your hooked on oxys or percs

 

[ryno9000]

u shouldnt have to take them that long you take them to block out opiate withdrawal....say if your hooked on oxys or percs

I'm pretty sure he knows the "reason" one would be on suboxen if he is on it...

As stated, this is really something a Licensed Healthcare Pro needs to deal with. Anyone on here is just speculating. See your doc and let him know whats up! Until then just keep your head up man, it does get better I promise.

 

[daville]

i detoxed from opiates 5 yrs ago and i was put on it but only for 5 days just to help the withdraw. i got a friend that has been on it for a couple months. some dr will perscribe it and use in place of methadone. it turned out that he was just hooked on the subox and had to go to a half way house to come off of that. i would consult the dr who gave it to u and seriously try to come off of it. hit meetings and get involved with the 12 steps and things will get better in no time.

 

[the elite addict]

ive been on 16 mg daily of suboxone for over a year. Its due to a series of surgeries that I had. I no longer wanted to take the pain killers that I ended up getting addicted to. I don't have the depression so I can't comment on that. Suboxone is a wonderful drug. It has not at all slowed my gains. I am 220 lbs and very lean. around 8% bf. I have made great gains this past year while on the medication. if you have depression issues id suggest seeing pysc. Good Luck

 

[jjaas]

I dont post much nemore but im a long time lurker... I just had a question to you bros who are on or have been on suboxen... Ive been on it for a year and half now.. i take 4mg ed.. i have tried different dosing schemes but that seems to work... I am having depression issues.. Everything in my life seems to be in decent order but i just feel like shit day in day out.. I wake up take my dose feel alrite for an hour or two, then i just feel this pain its soo hard to desribe like an anguish almost.. It like being fatigued and down.. Theres no reason for those feelings.. I thought it may have something to do with my test levels since i have been cycling on and off for about 3 years now.. But when im on i feel the same pain.. Is there anything natural that might help with this.. my girlfriend is home for a visit she just recently moved downsouth i feel kind of happy but im just not myself... im just having a hard time.. any bros with suggestions would be great.. thanks in advance

Im not a doctor but I have had issues with depression after cleaning up my act in 1999. I kept hitting spots where I just felt so terrible even though things in my life were fine. Anguish is a great way to describe it. I finally gave up and went to an emergicare dr(cheap dr's, dont have insurance). He had me fill out a simple questionaire: Do you feel there is no hope? Do you feel tired most of the time? etc. I answered all the questions with yes and even started crying in the dr's office bc I felt like I might actually find an answer. The dr put me on celexa 20mgs at night and it has worked very well. Later, my mom died and I couldnt sleep for like 4 months. I went to the dr and told him to put me on something for sleep but no narcs whatsoever. He put me on trazadone 100mg at night. The two seem to work just fine. Depression is some painful shit, bro, go see a dr

 

[makaveli25]

thanks for all the advice good bros.. the reason i am on suboxone is because i was addicted to pain killers.. when i got out of highshcool me and my friends began expermenting with hyrdros.. boy life couldn;t get any better i was jacked up and always happy because of the opiates.. i was in a dream world for awhile.. well that led to oxycotin which was also great for awhile.. then when i ran out of pills it hit me i was strong out really bad.. well this continued on and off througout college.. when i got done with college i finally had enuf i was wasting every penny and it just didn;t feel good anymore. now im using suboxone for maitence.. im not ready to quite until i move out of this area i know to many people and there is too much tempation... im gonna go to a doc and discuss my depression problem.. thanks again

 

[Beachboy6294]

I know when I came off the pills I was depressed for awhile because that crap messes with your serotonin and everything in your brain. The brain is powerful I remember having dreams that I would take some pills and it was like I was really feeling good and high in my sleep. The doctors tried to put me on anti depressents for the longest time but I kept saying no. Finally I had to take them and it helped me get through that bad time in my life and now I'm not on anything. The gym has always helped me too. I have alot of friends on suboxn and it's saved their lives!

 

[702daswoll1]

Nice thread.. I could go on and on about fucking opiates.

 

[brundel]

I have been on suboxone for about a year now. started at 16mg and have tapered to 8. try splitting the dosage. I take 2,2,2,2 throughout the day and it makes a difference. In addition I take wellbutrin and trazadone. 125mg ed and 25mg ed before bed (trazadone). After a good run of opiates your hypothalamus is no longer producing the endorphins dopamine, seratonins etc in the proper quantities. Abstinance will resolve this issue as well as anti depressants for a short period. (approx 1 year). Keep in mind suboxone is an opiate in itself as well as containing naloxone, which is an opiate blocker. Once your natural pain killer production begins to start working it will effectivly block it. perhaps it is time to start weaning off. Try 2mg am 2mg pm. then 1mg am 1mg pm after 2 weeks then 1mg am then nada. in addition like i said anti depressants help alot a at firsst. If i can further help let me know. good luck.

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[squatmonkey]

I had a bad problem with opiates for a few years. You all can judge me but I take methadone and its really had a positive affect on my life. Im still addicted but I can function. I dont feel high or deppressed. I have made great gains. I just feel normal. Just hang in there man....I think everybody is taking something. If thats what it takes so be it....

 

[drsketch]

Nice thread.. I could go on and on about fucking opiates.

not too fun when you get so relaxed you stop breathing..

People quit opiates everyday cold turkey, try it sometime.

 

[702daswoll1]

not too fun when you get so relaxed you stop breathing..

People quit opiates everyday cold turkey, try it sometime.

I didnt say the shit was fun so dont put words in my mouth.

 

[the elite addict]

I didnt say the shit was fun so dont put words in my mouth.

lol

 

[brundel]

"People quit opiates everyday cold turkey, try it sometime."

Clearly you are not one of them. If it were that easy people would not need methadone and suboxone. You dont see crystal meth replacement therapy or weed maintenance. Opiate withdrawl is brutal. Inhumane. There are other ways and suboxone isperhaps the best. Yeah, people go cold turkey everyday, I have done it several times, doesnt mean its gonna stick. Slow taper is best.
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[nickster#1]

You are getting a PM.

 

[gautho]

We are here for you bro, but remember, be thankful for what you got and not what you don't have. You can have everything going for you at one moment and with a blink of an eye it can be gone. Trust me bro, i went from being on top of the world with sponsers at one moment, from hearing a pop in the elbow and everything gone in a second. Life is hard, unfair and unjust at times, but its ultimately what you make of it. I sacrificed everything for BB'ing, even perhaps my family, and with that snap its all gone. Bounce back man, and bounce back harder than before, its the only way man, trust me. PM if necessary or just want to shoot the shit.

 

[airsmith2k]

being hooked on opiates sucks even if your only doing like 2 percocets a day ull withdrawl and get sick as hell

 

[Bridger]

Opiate withdrawl/addiction is no joke. Suboxone helped get and keep me off heroin and OC for two years, been off suboxone since october. Went as high as 32mg a day for a while. Tapered down to .5mg then came off that, fairly painless by comparison.

Its trading one addiction for another, but it allows the user to get their life back to normal and once you have your life together get off the sub/methadone. At least thats how i used it.