Dutasteride and finasteride will only work with test!

[krishna]

End of story! I see guys saying they're gonna use it with var or winny or tren or tbol. You're just wasting your money. And definitely don't take it with deca unless you're doing test too, in which case, you're screwed either way.

 

[krishna]

^^^

 

[gjohnson5]

not sure why folks even mess with dutasteride cause you have no libido on that

 

[eliteforce]

var does not cause hairloss but winny will cause it and finisteride will not help because it converts to dht in a different way so that finisteride cannot block it

 

[solidspine]

How can you do any cycle without test as a base, doesn’t add up for me.

 

[krishna]

How can you do any cycle without test as a base, doesn’t add up for me.

I don't use test for many reasons:

1. It slows and hinders collagen formation
2. It makes me lose my hair, and I refuse to use a 5ar inhibitor because I like my libido
3. It's easier to recover from testless cycles if you take the proper precautions with nandrolones
4. It makes me break out
5. When I don't use it, and I use other gear instead, I grow new hair, and all my acne goes away
6. I can actually make gains after my cycle because I'm introducing a new androgen (test) back into my body which gives me a boost even at normal physiological levels.
7. My libido is through the roof right now on eq/tren/winny/bromo. Guess what? NO TEST!
8. It's nearly impossible to make gains after a cycle of test because your AR's have been flooded with high doses of test over a long period of time. They are already burnt out on test, and when you recover, you have less of that particular androgen (test) than you did while on.
9. What that said, what the hell do I need test for?

 

[Bruce]

i basically quit steroids because of a horrible crash off of dbol test and deca. "you must add test" everyone claimed. well it was fun but i crashed hard. and lost it all. that never happened on tbol or winny. i talked with krish and i had done most of my research swayin toward eq and proviron with tbol to kick. he told me he had used this cylcle many times and libido was thru the roof and pct would be a cinch. well he was not lying. my libido is sky high on proviron eq and var at the moment NO TEST. in fact i don't know what it is about the mix but ive never popped more boners in my life. i have not run pct yet but i feel the same way i did on winny or tbol where i kept all of my gains. i feel no high like i did on test or insane weight gain, but steady gains and pumps in the gym. i dont' see how i can crash. my strengh gains were not unreal on just the eq but with the var right now i'm rivaling my dbol run so fuck it. i will use test prop because it is fast acting but nothing else test related besides pro-v

 

[Bruce]

i support all the test junkies all the way. i know guys love test this is not a hating thread. but i'm saying figure out what works for you. for me and krish test is not what works. we heard test test test all our lives and used it but it fucked with our libidos rather than helping. don't just run test cause you hear it from the people on here. half of them are just saying what they have heard not what they have experienced. krish brought me information that was based on experience.

 

[krishna]

i support all the test junkies all the way. i know guys love test this is not a hating thread. but i'm saying figure out what works for you. for me and krish test is not what works. we heard test test test all our lives and used it but it fucked with our libidos rather than helping. don't just run test cause you hear it from the people on here. half of them are just saying what they have heard not what they have experienced. krish brought me information that was based on experience.

Good call bruce! Nothing makes my nuts shrink up like a good shot of test. That shit shuts you down hard! With tren, at least it takes a couple weeks before my nuts slowly get smaller. My nuts don't even shrink on eq. I'm gonna hit up var at the end of my cycle. Right now I'm loving the winny/tren/eq. I haven't even needed prov yet, but I got it just in case. I am popping boners all day long too. I think me and you get raised libidos on eq. We probably react very similar to gear.

 

[Bruce]

yes i agree. lvtitan gets it as well. it may be an ecto thing who knows. eq really doesn't shrink them one bit? mine are a bit smaller, nothing like when i ran test. your gonna love var. i hope it doesn't reek havoc on cholesterol. i'm taking 20mg of nolva ed to help with chol but we will see. the strength gains are insane