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Drug free bodybuilding my AAS!!!
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Arabian said:
+1
the_alcatraz said:
Just cuz you didn't do it? I know someone who weighs about 285, who got to 240 before he ever touched steroids. He's 6 ft tall and a natural ecto. Started out training around 18-19 I think at around 140 lbs.
but, yeah, you're right. No one can do that with diet and training alone. Must be steroids.
ceo said:
And how many people are like that in this world? 100?
I could get to 250 without steroids....but I'd be a barrel of shit! To be HUGE, vascular, shredded without steroids is an impossibility I'd say.
the_alcatraz said:
lol! As I tell you that he's a natural ECTO and started at 140 lbs @ 6' tall. No, it wasn't genetics. He admits he had poor genetics. Just hard work, trial and error, and a lot of work on his diet too. Took him a long time to get there.
Pile of shit? Nah. I could post pics, but I wouldn't without permission. Currently at 285 he'd diet down to about 250-260 on stage at 4-5% bf. Back when he was 240 before roids? Not sure. But pretty damn sure he wasn't a fat pile of shit.
For most guys, steroids are a short cut. Ronnie hit 240 before he used gear. Genetics? Yeah. Hard work? Probably more than any other BB'er.
Tatyana
Elite Mentor
ceo said:
I am a big fan and promoter of natural BBing and even I doubt all but two of them.
Julian maybe, forget the name of the other.
There is something about the delts, there are loads of androgen receptors in them, so if at a young age they are really 'cannonball', well, I think steroid use shows up in the shoulders.
There are freaky genetics, and there is also the state of natural BBing in the USA, which does seem to have a bad rap.
I have been to a LOT of nattie comps, the teens are rarely that developed.
I know there are more BBers in the US.
It does annoy me that people lie, especially if they are teens.
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CEO and TaT both make good points. I could be wrong.
Tatyana
Elite Mentor
ceo said:lol! As I tell you that he's a natural ECTO and started at 140 lbs @ 6' tall. No, it wasn't genetics. He admits he had poor genetics. Just hard work, trial and error, and a lot of work on his diet too. Took him a long time to get there.
Pile of shit? Nah. I could post pics, but I wouldn't without permission. Currently at 285 he'd diet down to about 250-260 on stage at 4-5% bf. Back when he was 240 before roids? Not sure. But pretty damn sure he wasn't a fat pile of shit.
For most guys, steroids are a short cut. Ronnie hit 240 before he used gear. Genetics? Yeah. Hard work? Probably more than any other BB'er.
You have a point, there is something like 20% of the population that just have the genetics for putting on quite a bit of muscle (even fewer women).
However, at a young age, if you do have your training bang on, you can put on a lot of muscle quickly.
I actually slowed down with the training at a young age as my arms got so big and BBing was so rare for women.
I had no role models.
ceo said:
Anything is possible my friend.
