drawing and needle size- a must read!

[fclarke]

two questions
first, im using the spectro tren and its real crystally looking inside. i have been poking with a 22 gauge but when i draw from the bottle you can see the crystals sticking to the top of the pin sort of all bunching up. looks like there to big to fit in. there just all stuck to the top right at the hole. what gauge do you guys draw fin with, esp. the spectro shit which is full of those crystals.
second question. i put 1cc in Ed. with 1 cc of B12 eod. i have been finding esp. when putting in two cc. that after i inject (delts every time) it looks like the shit is leaking back out of me. you can tell especially when theres no b12 and oily looking shit is leaking out where i just injected from the needle hole.
any suggestions? happen to anyone else?
i been injecting there for about 12 weeks or so. only about 2 wks left. first 8 weeks was just 2 times a week. sust. from there on every day fin. and b12.
cant rotate injection spots, not flexable to get to my ass. 5'9 225 7% body fat. but no flexability. (i know, work on it, ive allready heard it!) any thoughts are welcome
thanks

 

[Arias]

My first thought is that there is something wrong with your tren. I have never heard or seen anything about crystals. Maybe thats because I have always made it myself. If I were you and I needed to keep the tren, I would filter it before I shot it. How would those crystals or whatever they are disperse or dissolve in your system? Or, I'd toss the shit and start from scratch. Second, you can draw with as big of needle as you want just change tips when you shoot. If you are drawing with a thick needle and shooting with it too then thats why the shit is leaking back out. I'd go with a 23g do your shot (where ever it may be) make shure you empty the shrynge when you pull it out, at the last few mm's move the surface of your skin away and pull the dart. Then just cover the inj point with TP apply pressure. That should help, if not I don't know what to say. peace out and happy easter!

Arias

 

[bumpo]

just heat the gear up bro my god, not to flame but ARIAS you don't know teh answer and to tell him to filter it or throw it away is teh stupidest thing I have heard yet.

DON"T ANSWER THREADS IF YOU HAVE NO FUCKING CLUE

fclarke just gently heat up teh gear before you draw it and teh crystals will dissappear.

they obviously didn't use enough ba or bb and teh gear is slightly crashing

www.reala-a.com

 

[SwitchedOn]

Damn you're injecting 2 cc's in each delt multiple times a week? That seems like an awful lot of volume for your delts to handle.

 

[Arias]

I said I didnt know what the fuck the crystals were dick. I've seen shards of glass being darted and the aftermath is sickening. The glass works its way through the muscle whichever direction it may go cutting, bleeding very painful. Either you have to remove it, have it removed, or let it surface. If you can't fucking read don't reply I said basically that if its not right, make it right. WTF is wrong with that? So shut the fuck up and tuck your nuts bitch, and don't ask me for a fucking thing!

 

[bumpo]

the crystals aren't glass bro

 

[Arias]

have you ever broken the top off an amp and some shards drop in? OK shit happens just don't be a dick.

 

[DepressiveJuice]

cant help you with the first one but i believe i can help you with the second one. if it leaks out it may be due to how deep youre doing the injection. if you are not sticking yourself deep enough, then the oil will start to leak out. use a 25g 1' pin for that. dont inject your delts more than once a week. you can get away with injecting it more than that-although i wouldnt recommend it-but why bother if you can hit other areas?

 

[bumpo]

have you ever broken the top off an amp and some shards drop in? OK shit happens just don't be a dick.

If you put it in taht conetx I am with you, but it sounds liek he or whoever made the fina didn't use enough BA to keep it stable

 

[DocTodd]

Im on arias' side on this one. Glass shards can show up all the time when breaking ampules. May or may not be your problem. Heating it up lightly in some warm water may do the trick if it isnt glass.

Bumpo....chill dude.

T

 

[TECH ONE]

I'm with Bumpo on this one, Arias if you don't know the answer than don't post a reply. And why would one ever suggest throwing away gear (just retarded!) unless you know for a fact that something is wrong!
Anyways, I've had some Spectro tren in the past with some crystals in them, once heated up there all gone!! Bro just heat your fina up before you inject! And you need to start injecting somewhere else, quads are easy as hell, or even your glutes!! If you keep injecting in your delts your going to get some horible scar tissue build up in the future-and trust me its not fun trying to get thru that shit!! Also you should get some alcohol wipes and apply them to the injection spot right after you pull the pin out, that way you can try and eliminate the leakage of gear!! Good luck with your cycle bro!!

 

[TECH ONE]

By the way, Spectro Tren comes in Vials NOT AMPS!!! So glass is not an issue here!!

 

[DocTodd]

Sounds like it isn glass then....but i meant im with arias' in the sense that he didnt deserve that hissyfit.

T

 

[bumpo]

Sounds like it isn glass then....but i meant im with arias' in the sense that he didnt deserve that hissyfit.

T

no shit buddy it's not glass, dude don't give me a lecture on my behavior when your bro is giving someone advice on something they obviously don't know what they are talking about. This is the worst thing someone can do. Obviously were not talking about amps because anyone who has used Spectro knows they come in vials.

So why don't you and your buddy think before you make posts that may end up hurting someone or cost them some hard earned funds.

 

[Latamier]

I have never had this problem with spectro tren. Mine have always been clear of any crystals. No matter what I am injecting, I always draw it up with an 18G filter needle, then swap out for a different needle to shoot. I always use a 23G 1 inch needle to shoot my tren into my delts. Just be sure to deeply massage the site of injection after shooting and you will probably be able to avoid this problem. Good luck!

 

[Arias]

OK, if the gear somehow crystalized (which I have never seen, heard or dealt with) then blimpos solution would work and for that I give props but jumping the gun and pointing fingers, I give no respect. I have my own experience with AS which may or may not be the same as yours but please Bro, I've been in the game too long, I show my experience on the outside (6'2" 240 8%) and I compete only with myself. I NEVER REACH OUT TO HELP SOMEONE JUST TO STAB THEM IN THE BACK. I help to help, learn to learn, and I NEVER turn my back on a bro, you never know, even my dumb ass may reach out to you..............

Arias

BTW, spectro is Canadian right? I'm 4 hrs from TJ, WTF would I do with anything spectro?

 

[DocTodd]

no shit buddy it's not glass, dude don't give me a lecture on my behavior when your bro is giving someone advice on something they obviously don't know what they are talking about. This is the worst thing someone can do. Obviously were not talking about amps because anyone who has used Spectro knows they come in vials.

So why don't you and your buddy think before you make posts that may end up hurting someone or cost them some hard earned funds.

Bumpo...no offense, let me think before i say this....YOU ARE A FUCKING MORON with RACING THOUGHTS AND ANXIETY FROM ALL THE GEAR YOU ARE ON. What fucking lecture did i give you?....."chill dude". Wow, i didnt know you were so sensitive that a prolonged 2 word lecture would offend you so much. We presented the guy with options and you jumped down Arias' back like a fucking teenager throwing a hissyfit.

Instead you could have given a much more intelligent and brotherly reply...."I have alot of experience with Tren and it is most likely crystals that just need to be heated up so that the preicpitate dissolves." End of story. Of course you didnt/couldnt say that.

If it doesnt help this guy, it might help the next guy to be careful with glass shards. Either way, we in no way harmed this guy by saying to either filter it or get a new batch. It is a small price to pay to dump it and buy a new batch. But of course you are only concerned with the money, not his health or anyone else's. Now THAT is the worst thing you can do. So STFU you dumbass. Now lets see your next intelligent post. You have only been a member for 4 months and you already have 2000+ posts? Get a life.

T

 

[marky]

Personally, I dont see any misinformation in Arias's initial statement. I hear of posts often of people being told to go ahead and heat this microwave that, refilter that......none of which are ever wrong, just maybe not necessary. But when your concerned about being safe, Arias is right. The best response, and maybe not the one anyone wants to hear would be to trash the stuff. Dont send it to me. A cheap vial of gear is not worth the consequences. Now, Ive done home brew fina and once it was
cloudy and looked like crystals. I asked the boards and was told it was ok. And it was. Had I bought it from someone even a well known lab, and there were particals-no way would I shoot. Not everyone knows about reheating. You should have just added your comment about the solution having possibly crashed wo the
other stuff-MZ

 

[fclarke]

thanks for the help guys - no, I have not heard about the reheating option (expcet limitedly on this board)
how is this done properly?
it does not compromise the gear?
spectro tren - 20ml vial.
thanks for the info

 

[DocTodd]

You can just float it or set it halfway in a tap water hot cup of water for about 5 or 10 minutes. If it doesnt dissolve at that warm temp, then you probably dont want those crystals in your body either.

T

 

[THeMaCHinE]

I just take a pyrex glass measuring cup, put about an inch of water in it; microwave the water until it is boiling (about 3 mins); I take it out of the mic, wait till it stops boiling and set the vial in. Prior to putting the vial in, I pierce it with an 18 ga needle (and leave the needle in ((no barrel))) to relieve pressure in the vial as it heats, occasionally swirling the amp. The crystals will dissolve after a little while.