Dramatic fat lost substance, has to be ?

[Fonz]

"C75"..............nuff said

Peptide Hormone discovered by scientists dubbed "C75".

After ingestion, the rats/mice lost bodyfat with no changes in diet, excercise, anyhting at a vertiginuous rate. And they were all Ok afterwards.

 

[needsize]

Tryn2,

What are your maintenance calories and your daily caloric expenditure.

No flame intended but if you can't answer that, you don't know enough about training and nutrition.

What are your current stats and what is your goal?

As far as my opinion goes, considering diet and training have already been factored in, T3 and Clenbuterol work great together.

I couldnt tell you what my maintaince calories and daily expenditure is, does that mean that I dont know enough about training and nutrition?

 

[Fonz]

You guys will never get a hold off "C75", so stop dreaming......lol

Heck, i doubt my Chemistry professor could.

 

[Jenetic]

I couldnt tell you what my maintaince calories and daily expenditure is, does that mean that I dont know enough about training and nutrition?

Needsize,

Not at all.

I just feel that these days there are so many people who are looking for unecessary short cuts. Many of their goals can be achieved without usage of drugs. At the same time, with some basic knowledge and understanding of training and nutrition, they can maximize their results.

No flame intended. More like tough love.

 

[needsize]

Needsize,

Not at all.

I just feel that these days there are so many people who are looking for unecessary short cuts. Many of their goals can be achieved without usage of drugs. At the same time, with some basic knowledge and understanding of training and nutrition, they can maximize their results.

No flame intended. More like tough love.

I understand what you were getting at, just didnt like the blanket statement, as some people like myself, have no idea about those exact numbers, but know their body well enough that it doesnt matter. Personally I am more instinctive about training and diet

 

[Jenetic]

I understand what you were getting at, just didnt like the blanket statement, as some people like myself, have no idea about those exact numbers, but know their body well enough that it doesnt matter. Personally I am more instinctive about training and diet

Although the numbers aren't absolutely crucial, it can help beginers considerably with how to evaluate and prepare themselves to reach their goals. Also, it should provide them with enough insight as to whether or not they are being realistic about their goals.

I myself don't bother with detailed numbers anymore. I too am strong believer in being instinctive and when it comes to your training and diet. Everyone responds differently and it is important to know what works and doesn't work for yourself.

 

[glennds]

hgh is human growth hormone, do a search. you dont want to do it, it makes bones in your face grow.

boy that is creepy GD, but what about other bones in the body? why would it cause only the facial bones to grow?

i am semiexperienced with AAS now, as i just finished my third cycle, and have learned a lot on this site. in my pre roid days, when i knew absolutely nothing about the subject except the DANGERS!! i had heard about, you would often hear about a protruding forehead or widened jaw as a result of roids. so this is an HGH thing, but not necessarily an ANABOLIC ANDROGENIC STEROID thing?

btw, after my three relatively minor cycles i have reached a conclusion about AAS. that is the results are good but way less subtle than i would have thought. i put on less than ten lbs each on my first two cycles of var only, and my third cycle using sus at 500mg/week. i definitely put on some qualtiy muscle but nothing freaky. i had zero sides on sus.

my fourth cycle, which will start sometime in july after some time off, i will do my first stack. i am not sure what i plan on using yet, but i want to get a little bolder and go for more dramatic gains. i am interested in EQ, and something else...maybe test prop. trial and error....there is a lot to learn.

 

[June15]

Where do you get dnp and hgh

 

[Lao Tzu]

As far as C75 being unavailable, read this thread.

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=260704&highlight=C75

Spidey, who has a Ph.D. in organic chemistry says you can probably buy some.

I know here in the BBing underworld its not uncommon for people to set up chemical companies and get a hold of chemicals. Why could C75 be any different?

 

[Lao Tzu]

As far as dramatic weight loss supplements, T3 and DNP are the only miracle drugs i can think of, and i dont know if T3 even counts as a dramatic weight loss supplement.

However tons of studies on mice are being done. Studies on drugs that block enzymes that build fat (C75), studies on thyroid meds that do not negatively affect teh heart, studies on drugs that prevent fat cells from building a capillary bed, causing the cells to die, and tons of other drugs.

I dont know if they work in humans, how you can get them, or if they are safe though.