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Does Equipose cause severe rage?

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I'm currently building/formulating an AAS cycle that doesn't have any of the more potent androgenic drugs in it (in the past I've done gallons of Test. Eth., "Cyp", and untold bottles of the old CIBA Dianabol tablets...always with problems of fighting, etc.). I'm a strength athlete, I'm not a bodybuilder, and I heard Equipose gave good strength increases. I was thinking of stacking it with Deca, and from what I've read Deca is the most powerful of the anabolic steroids (though in the past I always stacked the meaner stuff with deca so I don't know how much, if any, the anger problems had to do with deca, and how much they had to do with the more potent stuff).
My "natural" lifting right now is going no where these days (I've been lifting for 24 years), and I want some help. Without the fist-fights and social grief.
Is this possible? To avoid the meaner androgenic sides (like rage) by using just the weaker anabolics? A long running, low to moderate dosage cycle of crap like inject primabolan, anavar, winstrol maybe, if Equipose & deca are too grouchy? Whadd'ya think? Or am I screwed to being a non-gaining "natural" lifter from now on? (I've used roids for much of my lifting career, and BOY do I miss the gains). thanx...
 
Uh oh... I seriously suggest you throw some test in there.. Because Deca + EQ = no sex... Keep that in mind! I suggest you run a low dosage of test to keep your libido up.
 
Now about rages... I always get rages with whatever AS i take. Just me though you got to try it out yourself and see if you get them.
 
Do you have any old CIBA dianabol?

If so, please get it tested!!


Everyone who had tried CIBA dianabol has said that there is something special about it.


I have a lab recommendation if you want it.
 
AlwaysOn said:
Do you have any old CIBA dianabol?

If so, please get it tested!!


Everyone who had tried CIBA dianabol has said that there is something special about it.


I have a lab recommendation if you want it.
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Seems that way to me. In the late 70's early 80's Ciba dianabol was the bomb. Nothing like it.

Equipose does not cause rage. Rage is caused my immaturity. Simply put, roid rage is immature behavior that gives AAS haters something to point out to demonize AAS.
 
I don't think deca is the "strongest" anabolic steroid. If you fight while you're on because you're raging, then you have anger management issues. Please don't use AAS as an excuse to let yourself fly off the hook. This kind of behavior is what fuels the media and gives steroid users a bad name. Not flaming you bro, but I think if you're fighting out of anger, there are deep rooted psychological issues, and it's not necessarily AAS's fault, although you've pinned the blame on them. That is exactly what you shouldn't do IMO.
 
anyone raging while on any steroid really needs a reality check, that rage is 100% you, the steroids are just a convenient excuse to act the fool
 
I've taken numerous cycles of equipoise and have never noticed anything like that, fina on the other hand...
 
needsize said:
anyone raging while on any steroid really needs a reality check, that rage is 100% you, the steroids are just a convenient excuse to act the fool
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Perfectly put. I wish the media could see this reply.
 
slyder190 said:
Perfectly put. I wish the media could see this reply.
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thanks, considering the doses I run, I should be a complete nut job if the rage really was true
 
Hate Gravity said:
I'm currently building/formulating an AAS cycle that doesn't have any of the more potent androgenic drugs in it (in the past I've done gallons of Test. Eth., "Cyp", and untold bottles of the old CIBA Dianabol tablets...always with problems of fighting, etc.). I'm a strength athlete, I'm not a bodybuilder, and I heard Equipose gave good strength increases. I was thinking of stacking it with Deca, and from what I've read Deca is the most powerful of the anabolic steroids (though in the past I always stacked the meaner stuff with deca so I don't know how much, if any, the anger problems had to do with deca, and how much they had to do with the more potent stuff).
My "natural" lifting right now is going no where these days (I've been lifting for 24 years), and I want some help. Without the fist-fights and social grief.
Is this possible? To avoid the meaner androgenic sides (like rage) by using just the weaker anabolics? A long running, low to moderate dosage cycle of crap like inject primabolan, anavar, winstrol maybe, if Equipose & deca are too grouchy? Whadd'ya think? Or am I screwed to being a non-gaining "natural" lifter from now on? (I've used roids for much of my lifting career, and BOY do I miss the gains). thanx...
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If you don't have the self-discipline to control yourself it isn't the steriods, it's your own fault! You only loose your temper if you let yourself. People like to use steroids as an excuse for their own actions.
 
Someone on here had the best quote ever and I forget who posted it, but it rings true.

"When thinking about roid rage, just remember that if you are a 150lb asshole, you will definitely be an asshole at 200lbs"

That's the creed and noone to blame but yourself and insecurity
 
cornfish said:
Someone on here had the best quote ever and I forget who posted it, but it rings true.

"When thinking about roid rage, just remember that if you are a 150lb asshole, you will definitely be an asshole at 200lbs"

That's the creed and noone to blame but yourself and insecurity
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Nice bro K to you. ;)
 
Rage can be an issue when you mess with hormones come on guys do you think PMS in females is controlable.

You can get rage when you fuck with hormones you simply need to learn self control.
 
glover said:
Rage can be an issue when you mess with hormones come on guys do you think PMS in females is controlable.

You can get rage when you fuck with hormones you simply need to learn self control.
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well yea, instead of getting mad, youll get very mad..... but if u cant control your anger and its leading you to start fights all the time then you have no business messing with AAS....not trying to sound like a jerk, just seems that if your prone this side then dont mess with the stuff.....or just basically control your anger, and dont let it control you
 
glover said:
Rage can be an issue when you mess with hormones come on guys do you think PMS in females is controlable.

You can get rage when you fuck with hormones you simply need to learn self control.
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Not an excuse! People have to take responsibility for their own actions and not always have to have something or someone else to blame. Blame is for the weak.
 
And the mood swings from PMS are controllable for most women. Most girls I know won't show any signs that they're in PMS because they have self-control. If they can control naturally occuring homone fluxes, we have no excuse to rage from self-induced hormone fluxes. If someone can't handle it, they have no business using.
 
krishna said:
And the mood swings from PMS are controllable for most women. Most girls I know won't show any signs that they're in PMS because they have self-control. If they can control naturally occuring homone fluxes, we have no excuse to rage from self-induced hormone fluxes. If someone can't handle it, they have no business using.
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werd
 
roid rage is an escuse for lack of self control, i agree that emoitions are enhanced while on, but if you sucker someone in the jaw while on juice, chances are you woulda done it if you wernt too.
 
Your gonna freak the fuck out on EQ! It's horrible for rage. Very dangerous and harsh drug. LOL! Yeah it'll make you rage about as good as it will put muscle on you, Oh wait, It won't do that either! Good luck!
 
^^ My stats would severely beg to differ.

My only complaint with EQ so far is the fucking cramps and now that winny is added, it sucks
 
Roid rage is not a myth, I don't give a fuck what anyone says. It's controllable, but increased horomone levels do have an effect on the psyche. If you're an uncontrollable asshole, you're gonna be worse on juice. If you have self control, you won't have problems with it. But just because you can control something doesn't mean it's not present.
 
needsize said:
anyone raging while on any steroid really needs a reality check, that rage is 100% you, the steroids are just a convenient excuse to act the fool
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I agree 100%
Steroids DO NOT cause roid rage :rolleyes:

Its simply used as a scapegoat for guys who cant control their emotions properly :o
 
brooklynheight said:
rage is just a lame excuse for dick like behaviour-it isnt the AAS ..its YOU!
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Firstly, as has been alluded to I don't believe EQ or Deca have much potential for "roid rage". And I do believe "rage" is an excuse for assholes to be bigger assholes as Author Rea says.

But, there is some potential for personality changes with AAS partly because testosterone is a "loner" hormone. Some of the effects test has on personality were designed by mother nature for working alone or in small groups. IOW, the hormone is misunderstood. It would probably help if users would realize what they're actually dealing with when they experience "rage", as it's not (IMO) test's supposed tendency to encourage violence so much as it is loner feelings rearing their head.

Of course there are also quite a few bros feeling they're "raging" when in fact they're dealing with side effects from easily aromatizing steroids. Bloat can cause some irritability of it's own IMO and that has zero to do with testosterone's direct effects on personality. However, I don't think any of this has much to do with EQ, because I seriously doubt there is any potential at all for either EQ or Deca to cause rage by any standard. In fact, I would go so far as to state that Deca would probably be the exact opposite in moderate dosages and EQ is probably fairly similar. As a matter of fact, a moderately low dosage of nandrolone by itself as I understand it will actually reduce many male characteristics such as MPB and can even function as a moderately effective male birth control.
 
Hate Gravity said:
I'm currently building/formulating an AAS cycle that doesn't have any of the more potent androgenic drugs in it (in the past I've done gallons of Test. Eth., "Cyp", and untold bottles of the old CIBA Dianabol tablets...always with problems of fighting, etc.). I'm a strength athlete, I'm not a bodybuilder, and I heard Equipose gave good strength increases. I was thinking of stacking it with Deca, and from what I've read Deca is the most powerful of the anabolic steroids (though in the past I always stacked the meaner stuff with deca so I don't know how much, if any, the anger problems had to do with deca, and how much they had to do with the more potent stuff).
My "natural" lifting right now is going no where these days (I've been lifting for 24 years), and I want some help. Without the fist-fights and social grief.
Is this possible? To avoid the meaner androgenic sides (like rage) by using just the weaker anabolics? A long running, low to moderate dosage cycle of crap like inject primabolan, anavar, winstrol maybe, if Equipose & deca are too grouchy? Whadd'ya think? Or am I screwed to being a non-gaining "natural" lifter from now on? (I've used roids for much of my lifting career, and BOY do I miss the gains). thanx...
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I think you need to learn some self control and get your behavior under control. Quit using roids as a excuse to be a asshole.
 
I'm actually reading a study right now about how steroids affect mood. I do stuff like this regularly because I'm a psych major. Steroids do indeed make you more aggressive, but there is no indication that they increase anger or violence. If you are violent when you are on, you are a violent person period. You lack self-control because you allow the added aggression to fuel your anger and use it as an excuse to rage. Pretty pathetic if you ask me! The only indication of gear on mood is the added aggression to be the asshole that you already are. People who are nice, are just as nice or nicer while on gear.
 
krishna said:
I'm actually reading a study right now about how steroids affect mood. I do stuff like this regularly because I'm a psych major. Steroids do indeed make you more aggressive, but there is no indication that they increase anger or violence. If you are violent when you are on, you are a violent person period. You lack self-control because you allow the added aggression to fuel your anger and use it as an excuse to rage. Pretty pathetic if you ask me! The only indication of gear on mood is the added aggression to be the asshole that you already are. People who are nice, are just as nice or nicer while on gear.
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awesome f*ckin post....and so true, when im on gear im glowing, happy as a pig in sh*t.....and to tell you the truth, i would be more likely to fight off gear than on it (not that i fight people when off)....so it seems this side applies only to those who have anger problems in general, the gear can make an already existing anger problem worse...but by no means causes it
 
Right! Studies indicate that the added aggression will make users more arrogant to display their ALREADY PRESENT anger and violence. But gear DOES NOT CAUSE anger or violence in individuals. If someone has a gentle and peaceful personality, gear can boost confidence in order to display these traits as well. Basically, the added aggression is problemless for individuals with self-control, and to those without self-control, the added agression gives them more confidence to show their true colors. I'm happy and nice when I'm on too ricorico...good post btw!
 
I think that's a contributing factor, yes. The hormones, however, do have internal functions on mood as well.
 
HaHa!
Go ahead muscle up all you want. But it's girls that will end up with the iron fist. Go ahead and talk all you want. A girl will say "No nookie for you!" A guy will stfu.
 
I am easier going while on test. Sometimes Dbol will make me drive more aggressively but its nothing I cant handle or contain. I seem to glow in social situations while 'on' and I really thrive on it. Not once have I gotten confrontational while on, I think people can sense it subconsciously.
 
UA_Iron said:
I am easier going while on test. Sometimes Dbol will make me drive more aggressively but its nothing I cant handle or contain. I seem to glow in social situations while 'on' and I really thrive on it. Not once have I gotten confrontational while on, I think people can sense it subconsciously.
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You're one of the good guys!
 
Indeed.. props to you.
I noticed guys can feel intimidated by bigger guys. It is very important to keep an amiable impression. Smile at everyone, nod, and say hi. That will relieve a lot of tension. Naturally if a guy feels threatened, he will try to fight it. Weirdos.
But anyway, the bigger you are, the nicer you should project yourself.
And hey, girls may not feel intimidated.
 
zZzStarGazer said:
HaHa!
Go ahead muscle up all you want. But it's girls that will end up with the iron fist. Go ahead and talk all you want. A girl will say "No nookie for you!" A guy will stfu.
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Actually if my woman won't give up the nookie, then I am the one that ends up with the iron fist. :p
 
zZzStarGazer said:
Indeed.. props to you.
I noticed guys can feel intimidated by bigger guys. It is very important to keep an amiable impression. Smile at everyone, nod, and say hi. That will relieve a lot of tension. Naturally if a guy feels threatened, he will try to fight it. Weirdos.
But anyway, the bigger you are, the nicer you should project yourself.
And hey, girls may not feel intimidated.
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Even the biggest guy will crumble if you put a foot in his knee. I got that from watching road house LOL . I think you are right though; ever notice how these gigantic meathead type guys that are nice always end up with some of the hottest women? I think it's because they win out with quality not showing they can beat up another guy. Plus women feel protected and they like that.
 
wayneboard1 said:
Cramps? Explain please
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It started on just the EQ alone, about week 3 my calves wanted to cramp up all the time, but it wasn't so severe that I couldn't catch it before it happened (although they did cramp several times). Now I find that I get cramps doing small things such as stretching or doing any intense/fast movements without being properly stretched. For example, I jumped and ran across my bed (stepping on my bed) and my hamstring cramped. Or, doing walking stretches at my last athletic competition, my hip flexors cramped. I get a lot of glute cramps too. Just plain weird, but I've always been prone to cramping.
 
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