does EQ really convert to EPO?

[hanibal]

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/catequi.htm
that's what it says here. i've been researching alot on EQ and only this link and 1 other i can't find, stated that EQ is converted to EPO by the kidneys. is this true? if so i don't think EQ is as safe as everyone believes. 1 thing i know about EPO is that it thickens the blood.this is something that doesn't sound so hot to me. using something that thickens the blood w/ winny( something that increases cholesterol), might not be so safe to use together, like i was planning to do, along w/ proviron and primo.
- anyone an EQ guru that can explain this to me?again i only found 2 links which stated the EPO thing, that's why i'm questioning this.
- maybe it would be smart to use aspirin daily, especially when on either EQ or winny. excuse me if i sound like a pussy but after 13 years of juicing( 10 not so smart), i'm alittle paranoid these days. i guess i'm getting old...i did alot of stupid/hazardous things w/ juice in my day.

 

[tsuwr927]

unless your Cholesterol is out of control i don't think it becomes a factor until you start using very high doses of EQ. Seems like every likes the fact that EQ increases RBC

 

[hanibal]

i'm sure everyone likes it. i'm also sure people like results from almost everything they use. the question was if it converts to EPO or not...

 

[mikefear]

thickening of the blood.. well, it does increase rbc..but unless you have some sort of blockage in your heart or other organis/extremeties, it's mostly a non-issue.. besides, you shouldn't be using if you already have an underlying physical problem.

 

[Ulter]

No it doesn't convert to EPO. It may stimulate it's release.

 

[|3ossman]

thicker blood increases blood pressure, i dont really see that as a positive

 

[tsuwr927]

i'm sure everyone likes it. i'm also sure people like results from almost everything they use. the question was if it converts to EPO or not...

no it does not convert to EPO. It increases EPO secretion which in turn increases RBC. my bad for not being for straight forward

 

[hanibal]

thickening of the blood.. well, it does increase rbc..but unless you have some sort of blockage in your heart or other organis/extremeties, it's mostly a non-issue.. besides, you shouldn't be using if you already have an underlying physical problem.

no underlying condition here, just wanna know exactly what i'm shooting into my body. don't want thick blood from EQ while using winny which increases cholesterol...do u guys think that it's an issue using both together? i was gonna do 800/wk for 16 weeks of the EQ, but now if i do it, i'll keep it 500-600/wk.
- anyone ever have side effects/issues w/ EQ? i used it back in the day, but never more than 400/wk and never longer than 10 weeks.

 

[Ulter]

800 is the uppermost limit. I haven't seen anyone have a problem at that dose. It's the guys who were frontloading it at 2000mg that were having panic attacks, short breath, etc. I've seen panic at 1000mg although there are probably underlying factors to that.
Forget about your cholesterol while use AS. It makes your numbers whack. They go back to normal when you're done with the cycle. There is no evidence that short term flucuations in Chol have any impact on CV health.

 

[JKurz1]

what are the benes to using a VERY low dose...just an increase in lean mass and strength? say 300mg/week...?