Does D-bol aromatize?

[Donkeymule8]

Planning on running 4 10mg tabs a day. I currently take 4 iu's of GH eD and 300 mg's deca eW. Was gonna run some Sust 350 with the pills, wanted to know if they (d-bol tabs) can flare up gyno, and and also at that does how many weeks should I safely run the pills.

 

[macrophage69alpha]

yes

 

[Donkeymule8]

Thx....I have 50 clomid pills on hand, would that be sufficient to recover from the d-bol?

 

[NickyE3]

Thx....I have 50 clomid pills on hand, would that be sufficient to recover from the d-bol?

you will also need nolva in case of gyno, clomid will help with ur nutz not your gyno

 

[jayseven]

ag-guys.com for the nolva, it works damn well and the quality is rocking- err umm it worked on my lab rats...

 

[Indy]

Planning on running 4 10mg tabs a day. I currently take 4 iu's of GH eD and 300 mg's deca eW. Was gonna run some Sust 350 with the pills, wanted to know if they (d-bol tabs) can flare up gyno, and and also at that does how many weeks should I safely run the pills.

Sure will no more than 4 weeks for dbol.

 

[krishna]

Aromatase inhibitor

 

[lanky]

i will have to check up on the aromatization of d-bol..

 

[krishna]

i will have to check up on the aromatization of d-bol..

If I'm remembering correctly, it is a derivative of test and does aromatize a good deal. I think what it doesn't do is reduce via 5-ar. Definitely let us know what you find out. It's been awhile since I researched dbol cause I decided it wasn't something I wanted to avoid so I kind of forgot about it.

 

[boston789]

It does aromatize.

 

[Mac173]

ag-guys.com for the nolva, it works damn well and the quality is rocking- err umm it worked on my lab rats...

Isn't that what it's supposed to be used for???

 

[jayseven]

Of course.

 

[lanky]

i will let you know in 5 minutes after i eat a chicken breast

 

[drrman]

you are taking HGH and you don't even know if dball will aromatize?????

 

[Cutt29]

you are taking HGH and you don't even know if dball will aromatize?????

lol

 

[lanky]

like krishna said previously dbol does not 5 alpha reduce,,after single administration study only 5 beta reduction occurs...do i have a problem with some of the literature(yes, there is some very interesting stuff i have found out and some very odd metabolites in this study that i never expected and do not make that much sense to me, a little unsettling, some of the pictures are mislabeled, o might have to call germany(institute of biochemistry, german sports university cologne, Calrl-Diem-WEG 6, 50933, COLOGNE GERMANY FAX- +49-221-4973236 ,moving on)

the following is a quote for d-bol,,quite long i have to type it out by hand for security reasons

"metandienone(d-bol)(17b -hydroxy-17a methylandrosta-1,4-diene-3-one) was first synthesized in 1955 by vischer et. al. by microbiological dehydrogenation of methyltestosterone. in 1956 Meystre et al. published a dehydrogenation synthesis of methyltostosterone with selenium dioxide. As the main metabolite of this steroid 6b hydroxymetandienone was identified in 1963 by Rogone and Segaloff. this metabolite was excreted unconjugated. As discussed above(Conjugation at the B ring), recent experiments have shown that 6B-hydroxymetandienone is mainly excreted as a labile conjugate, the structure of which is unknown. A further metabolite 17-epimetandienone, was identified and sythesized in 1971 by Macdonald et al. As reported later the 17-epimeric product results from degredation and rearangement of an excreted 17B- sulfate. further publications present results for GC-MS investigations of the unconjugated fraction. In 1991 we reported identification of the conjugated A- ring reduced metabolites. These include (17 B-methyl-5B-androst-1-ene, 3a, 17a diol), (17a-methyl-5B- androst-1-ene, 3a, 17B diol) and, 17a-methyl-5B-androstane-3a, 17B diol. The 17 epimer is a long term secreted metabolite, it can be detected for a very long time after the administration of metandienone. Because the formation of this 17 epimer is followed by the general degredation process to the corresponding 17B sulfate, it is also possible to detect the 18 nor product, 18 nor-17, 17 dimethyl 5B-androsta-1,13 diene-3a-ol)


i cant give you an answer about the aromitization of d-bol,,,but there is very very very strong evidence that d-bol is almost exclusively 5 beta reduced... the dose of D BOL IN THE study was at 22mg, and 44mg,,,boldenone is also only 5 beta reduced..my hand hurts now

 

[mikefear]

aifm for teh bloat

 

[lanky]

they were urinary metabolites,,this piece of literature did not get into the aromitization even when discussing 17 alpha methyltestosterone,,maybe the focus was on androstane metabolites..who knows..those crazy germans..99 luftbaloons..a few here are old enough to remember that song

 

[krishna]

like krishna said previously dbol does not 5 alpha reduce,,after single administration study only 5 beta reduction occurs...do i have a problem with some of the literature(yes, there is some very interesting stuff i have found out and some very odd metabolites in this study that i never expected and do not make that much sense to me, a little unsettling, some of the pictures are mislabeled, o might have to call germany(institute of biochemistry, german sports university cologne, Calrl-Diem-WEG 6, 50933, COLOGNE GERMANY FAX- +49-221-4973236 ,moving on)

the following is a quote for d-bol,,quite long i have to type it out by hand for security reasons

"metandienone(d-bol)(17b -hydroxy-17a methylandrosta-1,4-diene-3-one) was first synthesized in 1955 by vischer et. al. by microbiological dehydrogenation of methyltestosterone. in 1956 Meystre et al. published a dehydrogenation synthesis of methyltostosterone with selenium dioxide. As the main metabolite of this steroid 6b hydroxymetandienone was identified in 1963 by Rogone and Segaloff. this metabolite was excreted unconjugated. As discussed above(Conjugation at the B ring), recent experiments have shown that 6B-hydroxymetandienone is mainly excreted as a labile conjugate, the structure of which is unknown. A further metabolite 17-epimetandienone, was identified and sythesized in 1971 by Macdonald et al. As reported later the 17-epimeric product results from degredation and rearangement of an excreted 17B- sulfate. further publications present results for GC-MS investigations of the unconjugated fraction. In 1991 we reported identification of the conjugated A- ring reduced metabolites. These include (17 B-methyl-5B-androst-1-ene, 3a, 17a diol), (17a-methyl-5B- androst-1-ene, 3a, 17B diol) and, 17a-methyl-5B-androstane-3a, 17B diol. The 17 epimer is a long term secreted metabolite, it can be detected for a very long time after the administration of metandienone. Because the formation of this 17 epimer is followed by the general degredation process to the corresponding 17B sulfate, it is also possible to detect the 18 nor product, 18 nor-17, 17 dimethyl 5B-androsta-1,13 diene-3a-ol)


i cant give you an answer about the aromitization of d-bol,,,but there is very very very strong evidence that d-bol is almost exclusively 5 beta reduced... the dose of D BOL IN THE study was at 22mg, and 44mg,,,boldenone is also only 5 beta reduced..my hand hurts now

What are the physical effects of 5-beta reduction?

 

[lanky]

What are the physical effects of 5-beta reduction?

i do not know,,,the physical effect of 5 beta reduction may all depend on the particular steroid in question ie..when it is 5 beta reduced does its anabolic to androgenic ratio change? I believe the book/research by "Vida" goes into detail about the anabolic to androgenic ratio of most AAS and their metabolites...very good question though.

 

[lanky]

just a side note..most synthetic AAS that can 5 alpha reduce also 5 beta reduce to some degree