Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below ive been using prop for about 14 weeks. prop flu/ pain, had all that, but now i actually really fucking like it. i used to use enanthate as a base for all cycles and i feel so sluggish after 10-12 weeks, thats when i know its time to jump off cycle. ive been at 100mg of prop eod and i still feel awesome. with enanthate, i gues its the build up of the testosterone that makes me feel that way. i would have never thought i would be able to shoot eod but i dont mind it at all and it kinda feels good. i started with prop and enathate, so i figured id let the enanthate build up, after 5 weeks i dropped the prop, and ran only enanthate and i started breaking out on my face, after 4 weeks, i dropped the enanthate and went back to prop, and my face is clear again. i got bad sides from tren enanthate but im starting to believe i might react the same way to the esters so maybe tren ace wont make me break out bad (cystic acne).
Does anyone else prefer short esters over long esters?
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needtogetaas
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Some times.
eClenbuterol
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With Need2 on the "sometimes" it really depends what I want to run like EQ for example or Deca.
79steeler
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Ive been running Prop, tren a and Mast. ED injections and i'm a little tired of it as well, but I have to say its been a great cycle and I also have had zero zits, I never get them bad, but its nice not to have them just the same. I think it may be the mast. keeping me dry though. I may never run another cycle without Masteron.
the only thing thats better with long esters is the amount of shots. ive never done ed injections but im doind eod injects and it doesnt bother me at all. i just feel that long esters build up in your system and the doses get too high, thats when the unused compounds get converted to estrogen and then acne, gyno, and other sides arise.
slimjim1985
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for me...when I get in a habit of injecting eod, I get used to it and actually look forward to it. But when I get comfortable with once weekly injections, I dread it.
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If you dont mind the frequent injections,,,the shorter ester AAS are great.
Para_Shoot
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If you got prop that gives you the prop flu and pain, you got frikkin crappy made prop, get you money back. There IS prop out there that doesn't cause health problems or hurt. I will never know why people think they have to pin prop every day.. SO, I will finally shut up for good about how I think it's a waste to pin ED when it's a 3 day ester. But, I do like the short esters!!
i like no esters. theres nothing better than going on, getting big gains in a month, getting off. quick and simple. i dont like the constant pinning. im doing 3x per day right now. hitting every muscle i can reach. odd ones like forarms, lats, bi's traps pecs, and calves just to avoid scar tissue.
slimjim1985
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Para_Shoot
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theres nothing easy about any of it. you have to fight to get the gains and fight to keep them. the sooner you come off the sooner you can go back on. it is all a matter of prefrence. imo blast and cruize is the easiest but thats a little different. i prefered the short cycle even when i did come off. it didnt make sence to me to get 90% of my gains in the first 4-6 wks then stay on for 4-6 more wks just to get another 10%.
easier said then done bro. what guy is gonna give you your money back because you say it gives you the flu or it hurts? your not buying candy at the store. yeah i agree that there are prop out there that doesnt hurt or give you the test flu, but that doesnt necessarily mean its crappy gear. the pain has to do with the solvent used to make the product. the test flu is usually caused by the quick rise of testosterone. thats why i know a few guys starting to make their prop with 50/50 mix of grape seed oil and ethyl oleate, cuts the pain away.
Burpees
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you dont feel staying on longer solidifies the gains more?
THE GOOD SUN
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winners use PROPthough I would love to try a short run with this new TREN SUSP I keep hearing about
..maybe 6wks of TREN SUSP/TEST SUSP/WINN/MAST ..put the first 3 in the same shot and OUCH M/F'er!! ..lol
i do think it does. if you are only going to run 1 cycle per year i would say a long run is better. but gains are still keepable after a short run and you can cycle more often resulting in more over all gains within a time frame. it seams better to me. its just a matter of choice.
but regardless i think there is a point where anything other than blast and cruize is going to wind up being a total waste and there will be no more gains other than to get back the exact same size you lost from the last cycle. it becomes a whole different ball game. i am finding the bigger i get past my natty max the harder it is to hold and keep growing. and if your going to blast and cruize no esters are where its at.
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