Doctors, Why does blood pressure sometimes not return to normal?

[theprofessional]

Just wondering. I'm being treated for it by my doc. Haven't touched anything for 4 months. I'd have thought that it'd be better by now, seeing how I do lots of cardio. Last cycle was 12 wks of 400 deca/400 test cyp. Also 6iu GH ED for 6 mo. I've heard of this happening to other people, just wondering what actually causes it. Anyone have any ideas?

 

[psychedout]

Doesn't gh cause water retention?? If so, that could cause high BP. Are you still on the gh??

 

[Bulldog_10]

I already replied to this damn thread, but I guess it didn't go through...this has been happening ever since they changed the board.

The basic jist of what I wrote before is that BP is not unidimensional...it probably has nothing to do with the juice. Although it could have something to do with the GH, as psych mentioned, if you're still on it. But more likely than not, it's not the juice...I'd start by checking the diet (sodium intake in particular).

 

[psychedout]

Yup. Sodium intake is a big one. Try eating like 2-3grams of sodium a day and supplementing with 5 grams of taurine a day. That should help your bp. If not, see a doc.

 

[GoldenDelicious]

Yup. Sodium intake is a big one. Try eating like 2-3grams of sodium a day and supplementing with 5 grams of taurine a day. That should help your bp. If not, see a doc.

huh? what are you on about? the more sodium this guy takes in, the more water he will hol, and the more his BP will rise. psychedout if that was a joke, put a smiley on it so people dont take it seriously

anyway to the original poster: there are a couple of reasons you may have higher blood pressure

most obvious is having more muscle tissue post cycle. more tissue = more cappilliaries to push blood through = need more pressure from the heart to do so

something else is your arterial elasticity changing (bad blood lipids help do this) normally arteries are stretchy, so when your blood volume goes up (salt, water) or your heart beats really hard, they stretch and therefore minimise the change in pressure. when your arteries get harder, they stretch less, and so when your heart beats or blood volume goes up, your blood pressure goes up

also, changes in your muscle structure MAY change your bodys structure in such a way as to make pumping blood harder, unrelated to arterial hardness etc. ie muscles get really big, and your bosture etc changes in such a way as to squash some blood vessels, so they cant exert their elasticity

 

[Bulldog_10]

huh? what are you on about? the more sodium this guy takes in, the more water he will hol, and the more his BP will rise. psychedout if that was a joke, put a smiley on it so people dont take it seriously

anyway to the original poster: there are a couple of reasons you may have higher blood pressure

most obvious is having more muscle tissue post cycle. more tissue = more cappilliaries to push blood through = need more pressure from the heart to do so

something else is your arterial elasticity changing (bad blood lipids help do this) normally arteries are stretchy, so when your blood volume goes up (salt, water) or your heart beats really hard, they stretch and therefore minimise the change in pressure. when your arteries get harder, they stretch less, and so when your heart beats or blood volume goes up, your blood pressure goes up

also, changes in your muscle structure MAY change your bodys structure in such a way as to make pumping blood harder, unrelated to arterial hardness etc. ie muscles get really big, and your bosture etc changes in such a way as to squash some blood vessels, so they cant exert their elasticity

I think psych meant to keep his sodium intake to less than 2-3 grams per day...not to take 2-3 grams on top of what he's already taking.

Second, the more capillaries you have, the lower the BP will be (via decreased peripheral resistance).

Third, muscles only squeeze blood vessels during contraction...it won't have an effect unless you're doing high intensity exercises (isometric in particular).

The fact that muscles squeeze blood vessels is a good thing, in that it aides in venous return to the heart ("the muscle pump")...increasing end diastolic volume, thus increasing stroke volume (Frank-Starling mechanism) and decreasing heart rate. This is why cardio is so good for the heart.

 

[GoldenDelicious]

I think psych meant to keep his sodium intake to less than 2-3 grams per day...not to take 2-3 grams on top of what he's already taking.

from memory 2-3 g daily is in excess of the RDI

Second, the more capillaries you have, the lower the BP will be (via decreased peripheral resistance).

not in a body builder. more tissue, more capilliaries, more pressure. peripheral resistance increases, not decreases.

Third, muscles only squeeze blood vessels during contraction...it won't have an effect unless you're doing high intensity exercises (isometric in particular).

not in the case of postural change. the "squeezing" i was talking about has nothing to do with contraction, but rather to dead weight.

The fact that muscles squeeze blood vessels is a good thing, in that it aides in venous return to the heart ("the muscle pump")...increasing end diastolic volume, thus increasing stroke volume (Frank-Starling mechanism) and decreasing heart rate. This is why cardio is so good for the heart.

again, dead weight not active contraction.

larger people, for a number of reasons, ahve higher peripheral resistances than smaller people, and usually have more heart problems. it is often said in medical circles that men suffer from a higher rate of cardiovascular disease as a symptom of their sheer size

 

[theprofessional]

This is strange, it looks like some posts on this thread have just dissapeared? Weird...

 

[Bulldog_10]

This is strange, it looks like some posts on this thread have just dissapeared? Weird...

yeah...it's been happening ever since they updated the boards...they come back sometimes though.