Docs Final haha, please give input

[Dr.Equinstein]

I have really tried to modify this the best way I could. I'm sure some of you guys will still not like it . However I will not use 1,000mg of Deca no matter how much of a good idea Galaxy thought it was. haha

Weeks 1-8 Fina 150mg ED plus vitex
1-4 Reforvit b 50mgs ED split 3x
I'll have nolva on hand just in case with the Reforvit but if i don't notice anything I don't plan on using an Anti E to combat the water.

9-10
Bridge with slin/glutamine/creatine
Could I bridge with Anavar for the 2 weeks and if so what would be a recommended dose??
Using HCG during these 2 weeks

11-19
T-400 1gram per week (with arimidex).25-.50 EOD
Winny 50mgED or I could run it for the last 4 weeks at 100mgED
What are your suggestions?

20
slin/glutamine/creatine

21 slin/glutamine/creatine/clomid 300mg 1/day
100mg/ 10 days, 50mg/7days

 

[Dr.Equinstein]

18 views guys...respond and say it sucks, hell i don't care just say something

 

[RdStrcklnd]

Why are you staying on for so long? IMO, you should always cycle 8-10 on, post cycle, 8-10 off.

 

[benchpressr23]

IMO the glutimine and creatine are a waste. Other than that I looks good. Maybe a tad to long.

 

[Nelson Montana]

No offense bro, but this looks like the blueprint for the "Anti Nelson" cycle so I can't give much advice. From what I see, it's a mess. Too long. Too much. Vet gear. Slin. Clomid. Bridging. Glutamine. All crap I wouldn't recommend. Sorry. But I'm sure you can find someone who thinks it's fine. Ask ulter.

 

[Nelson Montana]

And oh yeah...vitex sucks too.

 

[galaxy]

Okay, too many stories about fina dick. Throw in some test for the love of you penis!2nd Make your bridge or cruising dose last 4 weeks. 40mgs anavar would be awesome or 400mgs Eq. And finally , being on for long periods isnt that bad as long as you monitor BP ,cholesterol and keep orals to a minimum. Plus, your being kinder to your body be staying at a more consistent bodyweight and not fluctuating all over the place...........galaxy

PS Do the gram of deca! If your not shopping for bras in 3months you'll thank me.LOL

 

[galaxy]

No offense bro, but this looks like the blueprint for the "Anti Nelson" cycle so I can't give much advice. From what I see, it's a mess. Too long. Too much. Vet gear. Slin. Clomid. Bridging. Glutamine. All crap I wouldn't recommend. Sorry. But I'm sure you can find someone who thinks it's fine. Ask ulter.

I think Im going to puke!

 

[Dr.Equinstein]

Well..ok i want to keep my cool since i did ask for negative and positive remarks. Basically my cycle sucks in nelsons eyes..thats fine thats his opinion. Too long? Pros go on year round..and no i'm not a pro or close to being. However many bros on here report great success from going on for a longer period of time. Hi, Fonz both ran FINA for 15-20-25 weeks with excellent results!

I am using vet gear? well i'm sorry, unfortunately for some of us that is all we can get or afford. Hardly any of my sources carry anything else. With the way things are lately (IMO they are shit) I don't feel too comfortable at acquiring a foreign source and risking throwing my money away. This is the gear i have access to and it has been tried and true!

Too much? Are you kidding? Do you see some of the cycles that are posted on here? I'm only stacking 2 items for each part, the totals run 1,500mg per week. That is far from overdoing it IMO. Anybody else would of had 3-4 things running over 2500mg per week. Or perhaps they have 3-4 things are there total is 1500 per week..either way i don't see my doses as being excessive.

Slin? Well i'm not going to try and argue this point. I can see where someone would bring this up and advise against it. I always say we are in a dangerous game and it should be treated as such. Yes it can be harmful, but it has its place and has been proven to be quite useful.

Vitex sucks..clomid sucks? What do you say to the people that have used these during their cycles for their own benefit. I remember not using clomid my very first cycle....well lets just say it wasn't a pleasant fucking experience. Nelson this is not a personal attack on you.I figured I might as well respond to some of your remarks to go ahead and clear the air with some other bros who could be harboring the same questions but did not speak up. You came here and posted your opinion of what you thought. I agree that I should welcome the bad with the good and I thank you for coming and posting your opinion. However I don't agree with you coming and basically saying that the cycle is a complete waste. You knock the length, the amount, what gear I am using,my post cycle regimen and then just leave without offering any advice or suggestions. As of now I don't care to hear them.

Galaxy....lol..NO i am not going to use a gram of deca. I appreciate the advice about the anavar bridge. Obviously you saw my question about it and took the time to answer it. I was asking about that because I would like to use something as a substitute for the slin. Thanks bro, and thanks for saying something for me at the end.

 

[Big'N Heavy]

First, would be easier to help ya if you could tell us what your goals are for the cycle. From looking at it looks like 2 different cycles but you dont want to do the time on= time off? So with that I would just either drop the 2 weeks you have in there for a bridge or actually come off and then cycle after a period of time off; small dose of anavar worked great for me during a bridge. If you go with the staying on you could always hit the HCG for 2 weeks midcycle. For me I would just run the test all the way through and use the ref the first few weeks to kickstart and then use the winny alongside the fina for 8 weeks at the end going past the test 2 weeks so you can jump right into the clomid a few days after instead of waiting 2 weeks for the test to clear (unless you are using a diff test ester) Doesnt seem water and gyno is a huge prob for you with the amt of arm you want to use with the test so maybe use that same dose all the way through and a little more the first few weeks because of the ref in there. Cant comment on the slin someone else I am sure can help ya there and I never had a problem with fina so cant comment on the vitex. I have never liked glutamine or creatine but some do depends on you but I think the extra cash from that would help ya throw in a muti-vitamin and some liver protectors but if cash isnt a problem they cant hurt at the end.

Big

 

[Checkmatebloated]

all over the place??? what are you doing> what is your goal for 8 weeks>??? d;bol/ ref. for only 2 weeks. you seem lost. let us know what you hav/can get and what you want to get out of oyour training, it now sounds like you are lost and about to stress a liver without knowing what to do..

 

[Nelson Montana]

Hey man, I'm just offering up my opinion, ya know? That's what you asked for. I often wonder why people ask for advice and then argue with it. Like I said, if you just want someone to agree with you I'm sure it'll come along -- but it looks as if I'm not the only who thinks you cycle has no rhyme or reason.

At any rate it sounds like you wouldn't care to hear my opinions. You talk about "what the pros use" and how this is a "dangerous game" and how "a lot of guys go over a gram a week". We're living in two seperate worlds bro. But I wish you the best of luck with your decisions.

 

[Dr.Equinstein]

1. I don't know why someone said i was only planning on using d-bol/reforvit for only 2 weeks...i thought i made it clear that it was for 4 weeks to kick start.

2. Nelson...I never said I wanted you to agree with what I was doing. However you just came in knocked it and then left without offering any. Perhaps I won't bridge, maybe I will I'm still weighing my options.

After I finish with either or I will post on the results. I am definitely going with the fina/d-bol as is. If I bridge and go on with the Test/winny..who knows.

 

[finabomber]

split it into two cycles bro. take the "time on, time off" route. if you HAVE to run your cycle as is why not add the test in with the fina. IMO that two weeks off is pointless if your going to run into a gram of test/wk. in addition, im shell-shocked to see you run dbol, thought you were done with it..............
FB

 

[Dr.Equinstein]

I should of figured my father would be keeping his watchful eye over me.

I've decided to fun nolva with the Reforvit to ward off the evil gyno symptoms Finabomber. Considering it (reforvit) is so cheap yet effective...why not throw it in to benefit my cycle just as long as i take precautions.