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Do your doctors know you use AAS?

AMGETR

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Just wanna see who here is upfront with their doctor? If you use the same doctor all the time, do you tell him you're using gear (what kinds, and doses). So that he can watch your kidney, liver, blood pressure, and test count? Aswell, he can diagnose your low levels more easily.

I told my doc last time I saw him. He just told me that I should have to be using gear, but he wasn't going to stop me. He would just make sure my body wasn't going downhill inside.
 
I was thinking about telling my Dr. as well but I wasn't sure if Doctors had to release medical records if police requested them. Are they required to? Just curious.
 
ya im upfront with them, doctors are not out to get you because if they were then they wouldnt get paid, and thats all they care about is the money and if the patient is well, i couldnt imagine a doctor not helping someone especially since they will get paid an ass load to do lab tests, which as i understand are cake work for them
 
i told my doctor and he just kind of laughed and asked why i would want to do that to my body. i was like "what? you mean get jacked?" lol. then went on to tell me how a patient he has who cant crawl across a room without dropping in exhaustion (heart problems) because of abusing aas...since he was 15! no shit retard :rolleyes:
 
My doc don't now anything... Last time I saw him, was the first time in three years.. The diagnosis was a "busted" fist... So how should he guess, and why should I tell...
 
its not doctors you should worry about...but your insurance company(ies) if any problem should arise that they might not feel like paying for (imagine that) as they could link it to your "steroid abuse". That information could very likely end up on your medical record. Good luck.

:jester:
 
I told my doctor. I thought it was important for him to know but my doctor is very cool, down to earth. He asks me questions about cycling just out of curiousity.
 
A man in my area told his Doctor that he drinks a six pack a day (at home and not driving mind you). The Doctor contacted the DOT and they revoked the mans divers licence. Take my advice, DON'T TELL YOUR DOCTOR SHIT...EVER!!!!!!!!!!!
 
I'm up front with my DR. - very cool person. My dr understands that I want to be as safe as possible and in order to do so I need to have my blood work done reg, ect ect. I tell my DR whatever she wants to know - she assured me that it would stay out of my med records.
 
Vicious cycle said:
A man in my area told his Doctor that he drinks a six pack a day (at home and not driving mind you). The Doctor contacted the DOT and they revoked the mans divers licence. Take my advice, DON'T TELL YOUR DOCTOR SHIT...EVER!!!!!!!!!!!

uhh..its against the law for a doctor to disclose any type on information about a patient to ANYONE, its called confidentiality. id be happy if a doctor did that to me, id sue the shit out of him. the guy who told you this story is BSing you
 
Vicious cycle said:
A man in my area told his Doctor that he drinks a six pack a day (at home and not driving mind you). The Doctor contacted the DOT and they revoked the mans divers licence. Take my advice, DON'T TELL YOUR DOCTOR SHIT...EVER!!!!!!!!!!!

Not only is it confidential but if the man drinks a case of beer a day on his own property, he can and there's nothing that can be done about it. DOT cannot revoke your license just because a doctor contacts them and says that one of his patients says he drinks a 6 pack a day.
 
I think the majority of doctors would frown upon it. I mentioned it once to one of my previous doctors and she wanted me to see a shrink. All I can say is never again will I divulge private info like that to someone I don't fully trust.
 
Vicious cycle said:
A man in my area told his Doctor that he drinks a six pack a day (at home and not driving mind you). The Doctor contacted the DOT and they revoked the mans divers licence. Take my advice, DON'T TELL YOUR DOCTOR SHIT...EVER!!!!!!!!!!!


That has to be the stupidest story I have ever heard... Come on bro use your brain here.. :rolleyes:
 
Vicious cycle said:
A man in my area told his Doctor that he drinks a six pack a day (at home and not driving mind you). The Doctor contacted the DOT and they revoked the mans divers licence. Take my advice, DON'T TELL YOUR DOCTOR SHIT...EVER!!!!!!!!!!!

Ummmm...eh? Do you live in a town of 3? As far as using goes, I told my doctor because I wanted some specific information about toxicity, and of cource he said I shouldn't do it because it can be dangerous, but he answered my questions regardless. That's his job, it's the Hippocratic Oath that he swore to, like the President swears to uphold the constitution. But, a physician can NOT reveal your medical records or history to ANYONE, unless there is a subpoena warranted. If you're 17 and you tell your doctor you juice, he can't even tell your parents.
 
after abnormal bloodwork came back just last week i confessed my AAS use to my doc after he questioned them. i just could not withhold it and lie...there was no way to explain away my bloodwork results.

he was very nonjudgemental and admitted he was naive about AAS. we are redoing my bloodwork in a month (my cycle just ended) to make sure liver enzymes, blood pressure, and triglycerides (cholesterol) are back to normal.

best to be honest if confronted about something. lying only causes more problems. gotta admit if my bloodwork was normal i would not have said anything though.
 
I talk to my doctor about it on a fairly regular basis. I never started AAS without first consulting him and getting his opinions. I wanted to know he'd be there for me if I ever had a problem with anything dealing with AAS, so allow him to know everything I'm doing, despite the fact he doesn't know a great deal about steroids.

On the other hand, my doctor is a very good friend of mine.

cydex01
 
tell them not to write anything down on your file at all.. tell the doc that you keep records and not to record anything regarding aas usage.. tell him if he has a problem w/ that then you will find a new doc plain and simple..

and it is the insurance companines you want to worry about not the doc or in that case anyone who could potentially get access to your med records..
 
my doctor doesnt know....but the bitch at GNC sure as hell does. I didnt feel like ordering online so I grabbed a bunch of Milk Thistle from gnc one day...got a nice cold hard stare from the lady working.
 
Silverbackgorilla said:
That has to be the stupidest story I have ever heard... Come on bro use your brain here.. :rolleyes:

To you Silverbackgorilla, DaveTSI, Hvywghtchamp,Toxicsambo...you all owe me an apology and karma:
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/04196/346128.stm

Now be men and say your sorry.

To Greekhookup:
From the artical:
"A state law dating to the 1960s requires doctors to report any physical or mental impairments in patients that could compromise their ability to drive safely, PennDOT spokeswoman Joan Nissley said. Nissley said she could not discuss the details of Emerich's case because of confidentiality requirements that also protect the doctor from being identified."

Karma to you for not being smug about it.

Best of Luck
-VC-
 
im am speechless, i cant believe any state in the US would have such a law when beer is legal, i could understand if the irregular heart beat was because of cocaine usage, which is usually the case, but beer???wow penn. must really love their citizens to inflict law that way
 
AMGETR said:
Just wanna see who here is upfront with their doctor? If you use the same doctor all the time, do you tell him you're using gear (what kinds, and doses). So that he can watch your kidney, liver, blood pressure, and test count? Aswell, he can diagnose your low levels more easily.

I told my doc last time I saw him. He just told me that I should have to be using gear, but he wasn't going to stop me. He would just make sure my body wasn't going downhill inside.


I just moved so...when i do get another doctor, yes he will be informed, i mean why in the world would you not tell your own doctor?
 
detroitbodybuildertigers said:
I just moved so...when i do get another doctor, yes he will be informed, i mean why in the world would you not tell your own doctor?


Did you read my link? Thats why! You don't know every law on the books, heck, even the lawyer above didn't know. You tell people, I don't care who they are and you are asking for trouble. I'm not saying it's right, but it is what it is. You all do what you like, personally, me and GOD know. If we could tell our Doctors everything and they knew everything, there would be no need for this (the most heavily populated) section of Elitefitness. Think about it.
 
Vicious cycle said:
To you Silverbackgorilla, DaveTSI, Hvywghtchamp,Toxicsambo...you all owe me an apology and karma:
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/04196/346128.stm

Now be men and say your sorry.

To Greekhookup:
From the artical:
"A state law dating to the 1960s requires doctors to report any physical or mental impairments in patients that could compromise their ability to drive safely, PennDOT spokeswoman Joan Nissley said. Nissley said she could not discuss the details of Emerich's case because of confidentiality requirements that also protect the doctor from being identified."

Karma to you for not being smug about it.

Best of Luck
-VC-

"A state law dating to the 1960s requires doctors to report any physical or mental impairments in patients that could compromise their ability to drive safely, PennDOT spokeswoman Joan Nissley said. Nissley said she could not discuss the details of Emerich's case because of confidentiality requirements that also protect the doctor from being identified.

The law requires an indefinite recall of the license until the driver can prove that he is competent enough to drive."

VC, this is the key to this happening to this guy, not simply because he drinks beer everyday but because the doctor felt his patient has a heart condition caused by his drinking and that he might have some mental issues, all of which could affect the safety of him operating a vehicle.
 
ceo said:
its not doctors you should worry about...but your insurance company(ies) if any problem should arise that they might not feel like paying for (imagine that) as they could link it to your "steroid abuse". That information could very likely end up on your medical record. Good luck.

:jester:

hehehe I love Canada! As much AAS as I want to use or I could even brake my arm with a hammer on purpose and they will still fix me up for free! Universal health care iz da bomb! Heroin anyone? ;)
 
well that is pennsylvania code, i only studied law in ohio and that is where i passed the bar so i dont know any other state code at all (obviously) except ohio....like i said that has its benifits because pennsylvania looks out for its citizens but it also has its disadvantages due to legal action......aynway karma back to viciouscycle because he is cool
 
AMGETR said:
Just wanna see who here is upfront with their doctor? If you use the same doctor all the time, do you tell him you're using gear (what kinds, and doses). So that he can watch your kidney, liver, blood pressure, and test count? Aswell, he can diagnose your low levels more easily.

I told my doc last time I saw him. He just told me that I should have to be using gear, but he wasn't going to stop me. He would just make sure my body wasn't going downhill inside.

My doc knows, and it's a she. She noticed my viscous stretch marks on my front delt tie-in and immediately asked about the juice. I was just like yup, but what are you gonna do? She gives me all the tests I need, free of charge too.
 
My docs known for years. One time he just mentioned I looked bigger and I told him I'd been juicing. He suggested frequent bloodwork and I have been getting it ever since. I'm on HRT now. Though not through him, he knows about it.
 
this is an interesting thread since i just went thru confessing all to my doc last week. you all gotta remember most doctors are not your parents. they need you to come in for their services so they can make a living, just like every other guy in the world.

most will not judge you but it is their job to look out for your health. best to be honest with your doctor. why not be open so they can order pertinent blood work to moniter your vitals? why wait till your liver enzymes, cholesterol or blood pressure is thru the roof and something horrible happens like a stroke?
 
hvywghtchamp said:
"A state law dating to the 1960s requires doctors to report any physical or mental impairments in patients that could compromise their ability to drive safely, PennDOT spokeswoman Joan Nissley said. Nissley said she could not discuss the details of Emerich's case because of confidentiality requirements that also protect the doctor from being identified.

The law requires an indefinite recall of the license until the driver can prove that he is competent enough to drive."

VC, this is the key to this happening to this guy, not simply because he drinks beer everyday but because the doctor felt his patient has a heart condition caused by his drinking and that he might have some mental issues, all of which could affect the safety of him operating a vehicle.

hvywghtchamp said:
Not only is it confidential but if the man drinks a case of beer a day on his own property, he can and there's nothing that can be done about it. DOT cannot revoke your license just because a doctor contacts them and says that one of his patients says he drinks a 6 pack a day.


This is what you said in the first post and you were wrong. My point is that you don't know what weird laws are in your state that gives the Doc the right to call LE. You weren't as rude about it as the others and I respect a lot of your posts, but...

Whether or not what you see as the "key" to what is happening to this guy is not the point. I'm sure he never thought that if he was honest with his Doc about a six-pack a day that he would have his driving rights revoked. Unlike what you said to me in your first post:
1. DOT CAN revoke your license just because a doctor contacts them.
2. It is NOT confidential just because you tell your Doc
3. If the man drinks a case of beer a day on his own property, there IS something they can do about it, if they want to.

Folks this is not the land of the free, if it were we wouldn't be hiding behind logon names, avatars, computers and proxy servers.

We all say it, STAY SAFE.

Stay Safe,
-VC-
 
Vicious cycle said:
This is what you said in the first post and you were wrong. My point is that you don't know what weird laws are in your state that gives the Doc the right to call LE. You weren't as rude about it as the others and I respect a lot of your posts, but...

Whether or not what you see as the "key" to what is happening to this guy is not the point. I'm sure he never thought that if he was honest with his Doc about a six-pack a day that he would have his driving rights revoked. Unlike what you said to me in your first post:
1. DOT CAN revoke your license just because a doctor contacts them.
2. It is NOT confidential just because you tell your Doc
3. If the man drinks a case of beer a day on his own property, there IS something they can do about it, if they want to.

Folks this is not the land of the free, if it were we wouldn't be hiding behind logon names, avatars, computers and proxy servers.

We all say it, STAY SAFE.

Stay Safe,
-VC-

VC, we can go round and round about this....I see the point you are trying to make but again....this guy apparently had some health and mental issues that could affect the safety of others if he were to operate a vehicle. If I tell my doctor that I have been having dizzy spells and random blackouts he may feel the need to protect me and others by making sure that I'm not driving when that happens. Same thing goes for senior citizens who are losing eyesight or other functions that may make them unsafe on the road. So yes, apparently a doctor can contact DOT BUT he has to have a valid concern, not JUST because a guy drinks everyday but because his health or mental condition might jeapordize others. I guess it boils down to how much you trust your doctor and the laws in each state. I'd say we both have valid points in this. Karma to you for bringing this to our attention. If I tell my doctor that I use steroids and he turns me over to the authorities I'd think I'd have a pretty good lawsuit on my hands. ;)
 
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