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fistfullofsteel
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I know I could never be in the military.
Lieutenant: "Attack FFOS"
FFOS: "How about you kiss my ass, instead?"
Lieutenant: "Attack FFOS"
FFOS: "How about you kiss my ass, instead?"
Do you have problems taking orders?
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fistfullofsteel
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I like to let it all hang out from the start
General: "What is your problem FFOS?"
FFOS: "I don't like you."
fistfullofsteel
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If you don't know how to do your job and you need to be told what to do then you have problems. Assuming you already know how to do your job.
There is a balance... I mean there is a natural hierarchy in everything... we all answer to someone directly or indirectly, that said, yeah I was in the military and had the attitude of resentment from taking orders from some peeps I thought I was smarter than, but I got over it... luckily I had a practical 'sage' or chief that I had to answer too, who was a very good man, I got lucky... however, I used to think that taking orders and following them was for lame peeps, and individuality and defiance rocked... now as I get older I've come to appreciate working up through the hierarchy and developing qualities like loyalty and duty, two things that seem to be disappearing as values imbedded in our cultural narrative... where -fake- individualism is being sold and so deep woven into all aspect of culture...
Would I go into the military and do it all over, yeah I would say so, taught me alot about respect, duty, patience, and just valuing indpendence...
Would I go into the military and do it all over, yeah I would say so, taught me alot about respect, duty, patience, and just valuing indpendence...
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lartinos
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it depends who'd talking to me and the level of respect I have for them. When I have respect it means they are treating me properly and doing their job efficently so taking "orders" is no problem. You listening to your boss also sets a good precedent for the people that answer to you. Because sometimes being a follower is a way of being a leader.
lol yeah I'm not that good at orders either; especially when I see a better way to do something. Oh well, you either put up working for someone else or work for yourself.
EH, most people have the type of job where they are given daily, weekly, monthly or quarterly tasks or goals.
If you work for someone else your boss or manager will in one way or another tell you what to do or give orders.
The easier the job (less thinking) the easier it is to just do what you are told.
The problems start when you are more versed and successful in your field than your boss/manager and you stop being able to hold your tongue.
I think we (myself included) often make things more complicated then necessary.
jnevin
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EH, most people have the type of job where they are given daily, weekly, monthly or quarterly tasks or goals.
If you work for someone else your boss or manager will in one way or another tell you what to do or give orders.
The easier the job (less thinking) the easier it is to just do what you are told.
The problems start when you are more versed and successful in your field than your boss/manager and you stop being able to hold your tongue.
I think we (myself included) often make things more complicated then necessary.
That's where I'm at and pretty much always will be unless I have my own bidness. I just clench my teeth and let them talk out of their asses. My pet peeve is when someone doesn't know how to manage and they brow beat people and talk themselves up.
I hear you.
It's sad though that very often the most brillant of people that do the best work (when allowed to) and have the best ideas will remain silent because of the differents egos, bullshiters and backstabbers.
I agree to a point, I mean alot of creative people suffer from cognitive dissonance, as in the comic strip you posted that was brilliant, and transmitting their idea into the organization, or spreading it into a subculture is not so easy... I mean You have to know the right type of people. People who are persuasive, or have ties into many subcultures. You have to have the right timing, context -maybe u are ahead of your time-. This is not an easy thing to do. Moreover, it is possible that the creative person is kinda introspective and isn't able to persuade people, again this is a stereotype that may have no bearing...
Even at the univeersity or academic level, the papers that are published are not the most creative, but the most practical because they Universities and Research needs money...
In any kind of system where profit is the driving force, practical and what is most lucrative will always have more significance than 'creativity'.
You can boss me around anytime you want.
I like to let it all hang out from the start
General: "What is your problem FFOS?"
FFOS: "I don't like you."
You don't have to like me FFOS, now shut your mouth and get in the kitchen
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