Do you cheat??

[avenirup]

Yes or No.

I mean how long can you stay with someone-really??? It is just not normal-unless she gives you cheat days once or twice a month.

Also, do you agree that it is easier to do when your partner travels or you are in a long distance relationship......

 

[p0ink]

no.

 

[tiger88]

only on my diet

 

[nvrbuffenuff_girl]

No.

 

[avenirup]

Before we continue---everyone who says no is lying. Men (and most woman) are only as faithful as their options (as the great Chris Rock once said).....No cheating = No options....

Ok, please continue.

 

[p0ink]

that's totally bullshit. some people such have integrity and morals.

 

[strangebrew]

All the time.

 

[avenirup]

that's totally bullshit. some people such have integrity and morals.

Morals and integrity = people that need rules in order to live.

If you are with your old lady (or man) for more than 2 months and the hottest chick in the world came up to you and offered one night and a million dollars, I am sure you morals and integrity would go straight out the window.

 

[superqt4u2nv]

Dude I like Chris Rock but that is some BS! When I am with someone I am very loyal I never have cheated and I never would.

 

[tiger88]

i am a slut and a piece of shit
but never cheated

 

[tripleblonde]

^^^

yeah, what she said

relationships can get old, but you gotta find a way to spice it up

w/each other

not w/other people....it will only end up hurting the relationship

 

[tuc biscuit]

no way in the world, I have had some very appealing offers, but wouldn't be able tyo look myself or my gf in the eye

 

[avenirup]

^^^

yeah, what she said

relationships can get old, but you gotta find a way to spice it up

w/each other

not w/other people....it will only end up hurting the relationship

What you are a slut and a piece of shit??

 

[The_Eviscerator]

I find that when I cheat with a no strings attached fling that it actually reenergizes my relationship. Right now I am in some serious need of reenergizing.

 

[tripleblonde]

What you are a slut and a piece of shit??

what?

 

[avenirup]

what?

Look at where your arrows are pointing.

 

[Raptorex]

i am a slut and a piece of shit
but never cheated

I'm telling my sister!

 

[tripleblonde]

heh.....alrighty.....i was agreeing w/superqt, we must have posted at the same time

 

[Raptorex]

^^^
hi sexy~would consider if I lived closer!

 

[avenirup]

heh.....alrighty.....i was agreeing w/superqt, we must have posted at the same time

But your cool with different area codes right?

 

[p0ink]

Morals and integrity = people that need rules in order to live.

If you are with your old lady (or man) for more than 2 months and the hottest chick in the world came up to you and offered one night and a million dollars, I am sure you morals and integrity would go straight out the window.

being a hedonist is a good way to get yourself killed, put in jail, wind up with some deadly disease, etc. not everything that 'feels' good is intrinsically good.

 

[tripleblonde]

But your cool with different area codes right?

definitely not

cheating is cheating is cheating

you can honestly say that your dating a girl and she says, "this relationship is getting boring, i'm gonna go fuck your friend just for one night to spice things back up...hope that is cool....be back at 7 sweetie"

and you would be like...."okay hun, no prob, i'll be here when you get back"?

 

[The_Ghost]

NOPE never have and never will.

Being 35 I have had many UNREAL offers when I am in a relationship so it has never been becuase of lack of oppurtunity.

I might flirt like hell as I always have been this way, but the woman i am with knows I am hers and only hers 110%.

 

[avenirup]

definitely not

cheating is cheating is cheating

you can honestly say that your dating a girl and she says, "this relationship is getting boring, i'm gonna go fuck your friend just for one night to spice things back up...hope that is cool....be back at 7 sweetie"

and you would be like...."okay hun, no prob, i'll be here when you get back"?

If I could watch then yes....otherwise--no... It is different because I am a man and she is a woman....

 

[tripleblonde]

NOPE never have and never will.

Being 35 I have had many UNREAL offers when I am in a relationship so it has never been becuase of lack of oppurtunity.

I might flirt like hell as I always have been this way, but the woman i am with knows I am hers and only hers 110%.

bigdawg you bring up a good point:

what about flirting.....

is "innocent" flirting cheating? or is it just uncool? or is it not a big deal?

 

[Raptorex]

flirting is fun...no harm no foul.

 

[avenirup]

bigdawg you bring up a good point:

what about flirting.....

is "innocent" flirting cheating? or is it just uncool? or is it not a big deal?

Hey don't hijack my thread like you do everyone else TB!! And flirting is the same as cheating....

 

[tripleblonde]

It is different because I am a man and she is a woman....

 

[The_Ghost]

bigdawg you bring up a good point:

what about flirting.....

is "innocent" flirting cheating? or is it just uncool? or is it not a big deal?

I don't see it as cheating, I never disrespect the woman I am with, its just my personality and I am friendly and like the attention. The type of woman I date enjoy the fact that I get attention and it makes them feel good as they know I am thiers.

For me I think it would be bad if I gave them a reason to be insecure but not once have I ever had an issue. My GF's have always make it clear that me cheating is something they never would worry about.

 

[The_Ghost]

Hey don't hijack my thread like you do everyone else TB!! And flirting is the same as cheating....

Sorry not even close to being the same thing, so don't put me in the same crowd as the cowards that cheat.

 

[tripleblonde]

My GF's have always make it clear that me cheating is something they never would worry about.

that is very cool bd....

 

[avenirup]

Sorry not even close to being the same thing, so don't put me in the same crowd as the cowards that cheat.

If thinking that makes you sleep better--so be it. Cowards don't cheat-people in a position of power cheat....or as I like to call it, exploring other opportunities.....

 

[The_Ghost]

If thinking that makes you sleep better--so be it. Cowards don't cheat-people in a position of power cheat....or as I like to call it, exploring other opportunities.....

Don't have to feel better about anything. Its a fact. If the way I am was ever a problem, I would have had issues with GF's, never had there been one. Its all about respect, something a lot of the younger ones on this board havn'et learned yet obviously.

There is a big differnce in harmless flirting and flirting with the intenion of landing something.

Anyone who cheats is a coward and not real man. You make a commitment to be in a relationship, be man about it.

 

[nvrbuffenuff_girl]

When you cheat it's as if you are saying you are a pussy because you don't have the balls to tell the person you are in a relationship with that you would rather "explore other oppurtunities", as you like you refer to it. Cheating is what cowards do. If you want to explore why bother getting in a relationship to begin with. Aren't there enough people other there who just want sex if that's what you want as well?

I bet if you were cheated on your outlook on cheating would completely change. Even more so, if you were cheated on and because of someone else's "need" to explore other oppurtunities you caught an STD. Think of that.

 

[Paulo]

If you are with your old lady (or man) for more than 2 months and the hottest chick in the world came up to you and offered one night and a million dollars, I am sure you morals and integrity would go straight out the window.

Um no. you could break up with the girlfriend first. Then go have your fun and million dollars.

Lateral thinking bro, you should try it sometime.

 

[avenirup]

If you want to explore why bother getting in a relationship to begin with.

Because I like to have regular sex. So I have a GF-do her and when I get tired go and and get some strange. Plus, you have to remember-I am a man.

I bet if you were cheated on your outlook on cheating would completely change.

Not true. If my GF wants to cheat, she can just tell me and if I am aloud to watch then it is all good.

Even more so, if you were cheated on and because of someone else's "need" to explore other oppurtunities you caught an STD. Think of that.

That is life sister. I could choke on food today and die--doesn't mean that I am going to stop eating food. If you are ever in the Philly area sweetie, give me a call.

 

[nvrbuffenuff_girl]

If you are ever in the Philly area sweetie, give me a call.

No thanks! I don't like your kind.

 

[avenirup]

No thanks! I don't like your kind.

What--honest....Yeah, you want me....

 

[Vagin_Assassin]

When you cheat it's as if you are saying you are a pussy because you don't have the balls to tell the person you are in a relationship with that you would rather "explore other oppurtunities", as you like you refer to it. Cheating is what cowards do. If you want to explore why bother getting in a relationship to begin with. Aren't there enough people other there who just want sex if that's what you want as well?

I bet if you were cheated on your outlook on cheating would completely change. Even more so, if you were cheated on and because of someone else's "need" to explore other oppurtunities you caught an STD. Think of that.

Yes, but oral and anal sex arent cheating, neither is a same-sex experience.

 

[Raptorex]

Depends on what the meaning of what "is" is...

 

[rpol]

Dude I have never cheated in my life and now at 36 having had 2 women do that to me I can say that there is no temptation that could cause me to do that to another ever.I think I could learn to live without first.

 

[casualbb]

Just don't commit in the first place.

That's the trade-off... you give up whoring for long-term companionship. And don't say "but I want the consistent sex of a relationship" because that's what fuck-buddies are for.

If you feel like you can't handle it and have to cheat, then break up.

 

[Whiskey]

Nope. However, if I am not in a serious relationship and the girl and I are just "friends" then I can see that. Call me a hoe

Whiskey

 

[Vagin_Assassin]

It is only cheating if you get discovered. I am a man, I meet women and it often leads to sex. I can either stop, or do it very carefully. I choose to be cautious.

 

[avenirup]

It is only cheating if you get discovered.

 

[Sub-Zero]

If I could watch then yes....otherwise--no... It is different because I am a man and she is a woman....

good point

 

[lil'tangerine]

It's interesting how many of you post up that "I am a man" and that's your excuse to cheat!

Ridiculous!

If you were a REAL man you'd have the balls to be respectful of those your cheating on. And not use some lame ass excuse to defend what you do... to make yourself believe that it's okay cuz "I'm a MAN!!"

 

[avenirup]

If you were a REAL man you'd have the balls to be respectful of those your cheating on. And not use some lame ass excuse to defend what you do... to make yourself believe that it's okay cuz "I'm a MAN!!"

Since there is not a definition of a "real man"---I choose to follow mine. With power comes benefits--one of them is being able to pick and choose who you wanna F. Now, if you are ever in Philly--give me a call sweet lips...

 

[tuc biscuit]

Since there is not a definition of a "real man"---I choose to follow mine. With power comes benefits--one of them is being able to pick and choose who you wanna F. Now, if you are ever in Philly--give me a call sweet lips...

a man takes care of his responsibilities whatever they are, and cheating on his gf/wife does not come into that, if someone cheated on someone I know, I would show them how much of a man they were

 

[Frackal19]

Before we continue---everyone who says no is lying. Men (and most woman) are only as faithful as their options (as the great Chris Rock once said).....No cheating = No options....

Ok, please continue.

another vast oversimplification


trying to apply a one line comedic quip to explain the complexities of human behavior

 

[avenirup]

a man takes care of his responsibilities whatever they are, and cheating on his gf/wife does not come into that, if someone cheated on someone I know, I would show them how much of a man they were

I would love to see that .h.....a....h.....a

Just because you think cheating is bad, doesn't mean it is that way. You were taught that, so you follow. In this world there are leaders and followers...I guess we know which one you are.....

 

[HumorMe]

Anybody who cheats on their gf/spouse sucks.

 

[tuc biscuit]

I would love to see that .h.....a....h.....a

Just because you think cheating is bad, doesn't mean it is that way. You were taught that, so you follow. In this world there are leaders and followers...I guess we know which one you are.....

not at all, how would you feel if someone you loved cheated on you?

 

[avenirup]

another vast oversimplification


trying to apply a one line comedic quip to explain the complexities of human behavior

Just because he is a comedian doesn't mean he doesn't know what he is talking about. He does. And it really isn't that complex--well maybe for some.....

 

[avenirup]

not at all, how would you feel if someone you loved cheated on you?

I would live. It is apart of life and if it happens---it happens. Like I said before, I am very open--if she is going to cheat-fine--as long as I can watch. Love is overrated and for most it is nothing more than a fantasy-much like marriage.

 

[tuc biscuit]

I would live. It is apart of life and if it happens---it happens. Like I said before, I am very open--if she is going to cheat-fine--as long as I can watch. Love is overrated and for most it is nothing more than a fantasy-much like marriage.

ok, well good luck with all that, one day you will wake up/grow up and realise how petulant and childish you sound

 

[lil'tangerine]

Since there is not a definition of a "real man"---I choose to follow mine. With power comes benefits--one of them is being able to pick and choose who you wanna F. Now, if you are ever in Philly--give me a call sweet lips...

Sweet Lips huh? Keep dreamin' Buddy!

If it empowers you to feel like a man by cheating--then you are a poor excuse for a man

 

[nvrbuffenuff_girl]

Like I said before, I am very open--if she is going to cheat-fine--as long as I can watch.

You would want to watch your SO being intimate with another man?

 

[avenirup]

ok, well good luck with all that, one day you will wake up/grow up and realise how petulant and childish you sound

Nope actually quick adult as I can see the real instead of following rules set by people who want to control. We all have different beliefs-nothing is right-it is only right for each individual. Good day governor (isn't that what they say in the U.K.?)...

 

[avenirup]

Sweet Lips huh? Keep dreamin' Buddy!

If it empowers you to feel like a man by cheating--then you are a poor excuse for a man

Nope, sugarbear--all man here. All I is want variety--like cereal. I don't think you could handle all of this anyway...

 

[avenirup]

You would want to watch your SO being intimate with another man?

or woman

 

[daveyboy]

Never cheated in 20 yrs of marriage....& yes I've had options, but I always decided to not pursue it as hard as it seemed. Guilty conscience...or whatever you want to call it, I just couldn't get myself to go through with it & I tell you what, now that I look back on it, I'm so glad that I didn't. It might seem ok for some people to do but I just couldn't. That's just me though. Old fashioned values I guess.

 

[Vagin_Assassin]

Never cheated in 20 yrs of marriage....& yes I've had options, but I always decided not pursue it as hard as it seemed. Guilty conscience...or whatever you want to call it, I just couldn't get myself to go through with it & I tell you what, now that I look back on it, I'm so glad that I didn't. It might seem ok for some people to do but I just couldn't. That's just me though. Old fashioned values I guess.

Or your wife reads your posts.

 

[daveyboy]

Or your wife reads your posts.

lol!

 

[tiger88]

. If you are ever in the Philly area sweetie, give me a call.

u are fucking pathetic

 

[avenirup]

u are fucking pathetic

What because I don't think the same way you do. Fuck off. The difference between you and me is that I will be happy in 30 years and you will be in a loveless marriage... Good luck

 

[tiger88]

What because I don't think the same way you do. Fuck off. The difference between you and me is that I will be happy in 30 years and you will be in a loveless marriage... Good luck

i am not the one who trys to convince ppl to cheat and say it cool if the area code is different


i have never cheated and plus i am not looking for long term gf
and either is my gf.

also bro u i bet u one of bros when a chic sees u or says "hi" u think she loves u

 

[avenirup]

i am not the one who trys to convince ppl to cheat and say it cool if the area code is different

I am not trying to convince anyone. The area code thing was sarcasm. I asked a simple question. I just wanted people to tell the truth. What I found out is that EF is full of saints.

i have never cheated

Do ya wanna cookie?

also bro u i bet u one of bros when a chic sees u or says "hi" u think she loves u

Nope...not me. So I guess you bet wrong. If I fell in love that easy, why would I cheat??

 

[tiger88]

also i bet if date a chic and she cheats on

u feel the right to cheat on her

playing the get out of jail card free....

 

[starfish]

no, and I speak for both for us.

 

[Werd]

I believe that cheating comes from within. When I am with someone that I have a strong affection for I just don't find anyone else appealing and morality has nothing to do with it really. When I see one man, then I just don't see any others. I've just always been this way.

 

[avenirup]

also i bet if date a chic and she cheats on

u feel the right to cheat on her

playing the get out of jail card free....

If I were you (besides kill myself) I would not gamble-you never seem to bet right. First of all I tell each chick that if they want to cheat it is fine as long as I can watch. But I usually have the chick so hooked they do whatever I tell them....and if they did cheat I would just except it and move on (or just go to their "backup" that I already have in place).

 

[Frackal19]

Just because he is a comedian doesn't mean he doesn't know what he is talking about. He does. And it really isn't that complex--well maybe for some.....

i'd say it's more a combination of options, circumstance, moral beliefs and the fortitude of those beliefs, mood, etc

 

[bluepeter]

I cheat simply from necessity. A man (or a woman) needs a healthy and consistent sex life

 

[avenirup]

I cheat simply from necessity. A man (or a woman) needs a healthy and consistent sex life

End of thread!

 

[Paulo]

Well in that case, feel free to delete it, or use the handy close feature.

 

[wend]

Says who?

Avenirup, you may enjoy your lifestyle, but I guarantee that your lack of concern for the feelings of others is going to bite you in the ass someday.

I've had plenty of options to cheat, and I never have. I'm no saint, I'm just not stupid. I've got no desire to hurt my husband or my children. I love them. But it's clear that love is something you have no idea about. And that's fine. Enjoy your delusion while it lasts.

 

[avenirup]

Well in that case, feel free to delete it, or use the handy close feature.

No I will keep it up so that the people that voted "No" can refer back to see how they lied. End of thread just meant that Bluepeter said it perfectly. I think what he said will be my new signature....

 

[hanselthecaretaker]

If I were you (besides kill myself) I would not gamble-you never seem to bet right. First of all I tell each chick that if they want to cheat it is fine as long as I can watch. But I usually have the chick so hooked they do whatever I tell them....and if they did cheat I would just except it and move on (or just go to their "backup" that I already have in place).

Wow, a man with a plan, albeit an immoral one. It sounds like you are a bitter person and have been brought up with very loose morals. Are your parents still together?

 

[avenirup]

Wow, a man with a plan, albeit an immoral one.

Morals = Overrated.

 

[Vagin_Assassin]

no, and I speak for both for us.

Well, you are half right.

 

[Paulo]

No I will keep it up so that the people that voted "No" can refer back to see how they lied. End of thread just meant that Bluepeter said it perfectly. I think what he said will be my new signature....

lol, good job.

So, you ask a question, then tell everyone that doesn't answer in compliance with your ideals that they are lying.


about the signature idea, lame as it may be IMHO, its better than the crude remarks about a female board member you previously had in there.

 

[hanselthecaretaker]

I would live. It is apart of life and if it happens---it happens. Like I said before, I am very open--if she is going to cheat-fine--as long as I can watch. Love is overrated and for most it is nothing more than a fantasy-much like marriage.

How do you explain people who have been married their whole lives and never cheated. Just because some people have a conscience doesn't make them weak.

 

[avenirup]

So, you ask a question, then tell everyone that doesn't answer in compliance with your ideals that they are lying.

Yes. Because I can. Liar.

about the signature idea, lame as it may be IMHO, its better than the crude remarks about a female board member you previously had in there.

Crude remarks in your opinion-compliments in mine. And the line was from Kill Bill, I just inserted the 1 or 2 of hottest EF members at the end.

 

[avenirup]

How do you explain people who have been married their whole lives and never cheated. Just because some people have a conscience doesn't make them weak.

They are married because that is what they were programmed to do and that is all they know how to do or just want regular sex (usually men) or just don't have any options (usually men).

 

[bluepeter]

How do you explain people who have been married their whole lives and never cheated. Just because some people have a conscience doesn't make them weak.

because they are physically and emotionally fulfilled by their partner.

 

[Shak]

you know you've been dieting too long when you think about that cookie you had over the weekend when someone asks you if you cheat...
yes, i had a cookie
no, i don't cheat in relationships

 

[Paulo]

Yes. Because I can. Liar.

LOL. whatever. You don't know me. You can not speak for me and what I do in given situations. have fun trying though.

Crude remarks in your opinion-compliments in mine. And the line was from Kill Bill, I just inserted the 1 or 2 of hottest EF members at the end.

Oh yeah, I forget, what woman wouldn't fall all over herslef to be graced with your heavenly charm and rapier wit??

 

[wend]

No, the increased level of intimacy and caring and trust available in marriage must not have anything to do with it.

 

[hanselthecaretaker]

Before we continue---everyone who says no is lying. Men (and most woman) are only as faithful as their options (as the great Chris Rock once said).....No cheating = No options....

Ok, please continue.

If the world was run by people with your loose values, there soon wouldn't be much of a world left to run. A lot of people would be hurt and pissed. Unless nobody cared the slightest bit what they did to each other, so they do nothing at all, which puts the "im" in impossible.

 

[HumorMe]

Morals = Overrated.

Morals = the difference between maturity and immaturity.

I would rather be known as someone who displays honor and integrity than someone who is a snake in the grass.

If your lifestyle makes you happy then go for it but don't expect much in return.

 

[SoKlueles]

um......this thread is useless without penis pics

 

[avenirup]

LOL. whatever. You don't know me. You can not speak for me and what I do in given situations. have fun trying though.

I think I do. Don't you have to get back to pumping gas?

Oh yeah, I forget, what woman wouldn't fall all over herslef to be graced with your heavenly charm and rapier wit??

More than one on here bro--more than one and many more outside of the board. I am actually quite charming and smart and good looking and have a lot of nice things, etc, etc...

The difference between you and me is that I am me and you want to me. It's ok, I am sure a lot of guys feel that way.

 

[avenirup]

um......this thread is useless without penis pics

Check your PM box....

 

[SoKlueles]

Im skeert to

 

[avenirup]

intimacy and caring and trust

Yeah cause that happens in every marriage

 

[Paulo]

I think I do. Don't you have to get back to pumping gas?

Don't you have to get back to trying to remove your head from your ass?

More than one on here bro--more than one and many more outside of the board. I am actually quite charming and smart and good looking and have a lot of nice things, etc, etc...

The difference between you and me is that I am me and you want to me. It's ok, I am sure a lot of guys feel that way.

Well, I am happy for you. Yes, I want to be you. I am thinking of moving to filthadelphia to be closer to you and maybe, just maybe, get on the list to become your protoge. Maybe you could write an ebook?

 

[avenirup]

I would rather be known as someone who displays honor and integrity

Who cares what people think of you. Honor and intergrity are both overrated.

If your lifestyle makes you happy then go for it but don't expect much in return.

I don't.

 

[HumorMe]

Who cares what people think of you. Honor and intergrity are both overrated.



I don't.

Maybe for you but not me.

Don't you think you might be "overrating" yourself when you talk of your charm and charisma around women?

 

[avenirup]

Yes, I want to be you.

Sorry, you will have to get in line to join the club.

I am thinking of moving to filthadelphia to be closer to you and maybe, just maybe, get on the list to become your protoge. Maybe you could write an ebook?

Philly is actually a really awesome place (at least center city)--you obviously have never been. I will try to put you on the list--which by now must be in the thousands. And I was thinking of writing an ebook with George Spellwin--maybe EF's "How to get laid" vol 2. I am sure you will be the first to read it.