Yeah, but I'm already naturally a high testosterone guy. I am dominant in everything, like to work hard, compete, fight, f*ck, and basically feel like an animal naturally. When I take extra test, I do gain weight (some water though) and mostly it just makes my balls ache like hell.
Anyway, the more I search on these forums and elsewhere, there are a fair number of people that also complain about lethargy/tiredness on anabolics, some that complain of flu-like symptoms on various substances, lots that mention lowered cardio endurance, others that mention balls aching with test, etc. So I'm not convinced that I'm doing anything particularly wrong. Guess it is a "your mileage may vary" type thing where different people's bodies respond differently.
I'm going to experiment with a few more things,or maybe just do fairly short, infrequent cycles for a boost now and then, but for me being a high energy, aggressive, alert, horny, guy that can outlast others is probably a higher priority than being maxed out in strength or size. I'm still stronger than average naturally, so I guess I'll just stick with what god gave me and make the most of it.
I really have given it a good shot, spending thousands of dollars, experimenting, and really just wanting it to work.
But if anyone else has some advice on what to avoid to stay high energy, high endurance and not generally aching while juicing, I'd love to hear it.
And maybe what I'm really asking is: do you guys actually feel great on roids, or are you just willing to live with sides? In other words, are some of you getting pure benefit, or are you making a trade-off to get the benefit?