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Do steroids make others feel crappy too?

I feel amazing on test, whille on d bol I felt kind of how you just described though. High blood pressure is something to look into for sure.
 
I feel amazing on test

Yeah, but I'm already naturally a high testosterone guy. I am dominant in everything, like to work hard, compete, fight, f*ck, and basically feel like an animal naturally. When I take extra test, I do gain weight (some water though) and mostly it just makes my balls ache like hell.

Anyway, the more I search on these forums and elsewhere, there are a fair number of people that also complain about lethargy/tiredness on anabolics, some that complain of flu-like symptoms on various substances, lots that mention lowered cardio endurance, others that mention balls aching with test, etc. So I'm not convinced that I'm doing anything particularly wrong. Guess it is a "your mileage may vary" type thing where different people's bodies respond differently.

I'm going to experiment with a few more things,or maybe just do fairly short, infrequent cycles for a boost now and then, but for me being a high energy, aggressive, alert, horny, guy that can outlast others is probably a higher priority than being maxed out in strength or size. I'm still stronger than average naturally, so I guess I'll just stick with what god gave me and make the most of it.

I really have given it a good shot, spending thousands of dollars, experimenting, and really just wanting it to work.

But if anyone else has some advice on what to avoid to stay high energy, high endurance and not generally aching while juicing, I'd love to hear it.

And maybe what I'm really asking is: do you guys actually feel great on roids, or are you just willing to live with sides? In other words, are some of you getting pure benefit, or are you making a trade-off to get the benefit?
 
And maybe what I'm really asking is: do you guys actually feel great on roids, or are you just willing to live with sides? In other words, are some of you getting pure benefit, or are you making a trade-off to get the benefit?

Hell no on dealing with those kind of sides. The only thing to make me feel that shitty on cycle were a couple of orals. I dropped them once I couldn't keep my eyes open during the day.

Those kind of sides aren't worth dealing with when there's other compounds that make me feel great and strong.
 
What's a typical cycle look like for you? What compounds do you run and what dosages?

I posted it earlier in the thread, what I'm taking now. But I've tried almost everything, usually following novice or intermediate stacking guides. Typically it is a test, an anabolic injectible, an oral and anti-e.

Currently:
Trenbolone E at 250mg every four days
Anavar oral (GP Oxan) at 5 x 10mg per day
Test E at 250mg every three days
Ralista at 60mg daily

Usually I buy enough for a 10 week cycle.
 
sounds like you are on alot of compounds, have you tried going back to the basics and "starting over" cycle wise to pinpoint what hurts you?

maybe like an 8-10 weeker of just test, and see how that affects you, then add in something, etc etc until you yourself found what hurts you. sucks but you just have to experiment.

are you eating enough/properly?
 
sounds like you are on alot of compounds, have you tried going back to the basics and "starting over" cycle wise to pinpoint what hurts you?

maybe like an 8-10 weeker of just test, and see how that affects you, then add in something, etc etc until you yourself found what hurts you. sucks but you just have to experiment.

are you eating enough/properly?

This is what I'd do
 
you said it yourself in your post.. you feel crappy and your bp goes up. that is the reason.

either you are in bad shape physically and are not in physical shape to juice, or your dosages are too high which are giving you too many sides.

What Steve said, as well as switch sources next time. Your gear may be underdosed or bogus.
 
I only experince the sides you mentioned when Im on high doses of aas, or bad orals! You should lower your doses, and like sub-zero already said " start over " with basic roids like 4 or 500 mg/week of Test E for 8-10 weeks, followed by proper PCT and see if the sides disappears, then take it from there :)
 
Okay, thanks everyone. It looks like the consensus is to focus on injectible Test. I've tried that before, but I think the main side I get there is my balls ache, which I guess is not as bad as having balls ache + being extremely tired + overall body ache.
 
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