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Do some men make a choice to be gay or are they born that way?

needtogetas said:
its still a choice.some men like to fuck little boys and girls.dosent meen they have to do it.pedafiles have a cemical imbalence they are sick.so we say they shouldent fuck little boys,and they should get help.but if some on has a chemcal imbalance or something and there guy its ok cuz there born that way.fuck off i dont by it for a minnet.

are you saying that gay men have a chemical imbalance ?? i would like to know what goes threw a gay mans head when a hot stunning blonde walks past. because i think i speak for most guys on E/F, it takes about 1 second before u start to picture her on the end of your cock.
 
jd_uk said:
'Accepting' something is not the same as me making a free and voluntary choice.
shore it is.you dont have to exept it.its just like if i called you a losser,you could exept it and say ya i gess i am,or so fuck that i am not a losser.shore people may have a few more resons why they should ecept the fact that there gay,but that still dosent mean they have to.it just means society has made it easier to do so.the fact is.you dont "have to be gay in the end its still youre choce"it may be harder for you then others but its still youre choce.acepting being gay is givving up on the fact that youre strate cuse it was the essy thing to do.
 
needtogetas said:
shore it is.you dont have to exept it.its just like if i called you a losser,you could exept it and say ya i gess i am,or so fuck that i am not a losser.shore people may have a few more resons why they should ecept the fact that there gay,but that still dosent mean they have to.it just means society has made it easier to do so.the fact is.you dont "have to be gay in the end its still youre choce"it may be harder for you then others but its still youre choce.acepting being gay is givving up on the fact that youre strate cuse it was the essy thing to do.


No, it's not a choice because if you 'accept that you are' something then that means that you already were that something before you accepted it.

Accepting something by definition is not making a voluntary choice.

Your example of telling me that i'm a loser and me making a choice to accept it doesn't really work. It's easy for me to say 'no i'm not a loser' because really there is no such thing as a loser - it's just a slang phrase. There is such a thing as having homosexual emotions.
 
If violence tendancies are a choice or a matter of conditioning, then homosexuality is the same.
 
jd_uk said:
No, it's not a choice because if you 'accept that you are' something then that means that you already were that something before you accepted it.

Accepting something by definition is not making a voluntary choice.

Your example of telling me that i'm a loser and me making a choice to accept it doesn't really work. It's easy for me to say 'no i'm not a loser' because really there is no such thing as a loser - it's just a slang phrase. There is such a thing as having homosexual emotions.
well i gess you could say that alcoholics are alcoholics when they are born right.but they still have to make a choce to pick up that first bear and become one.hmmm .and even after that they still have a choce.even if they know they are a alcoholic they still dont have to keep drinking.its just harder for them not to then other people.so like i said.its still a choce not to be gay.its just harder for you not to be.
 
EnderJE said:
If violence tendancies are a choice or a matter of conditioning, then homosexuality is the same.


Well there's a distinction between a choice and a matter of conditioning isn't there.
 
needtogetas said:
well i gess you could say that alcoholics are alcoholics when they are born right.but they still have to make a choce to pick up that first bear and become one.hmmm .and even after that they still have a choce.even if they know they are a alcoholic they still dont have to keep drinking.its just harder for them not to then other people.so like i said.its still a choce not to be gay.its just harder for you not to be.

I never said gay people were born that way. You're not very good at following are you?

An alcoholic develops his condition...could be due to all kinds of factors. Still no-one would choose to be an alcoholic if tehy had a choice.
 
needtogetas said:
btw.faggot.


If that was some attempt to make me feel bad then it was very lame. For a start I'm not gay.

Even if i was gay then i couldn't possibly be insulted by a comment like that from someone with an IQ as low as yours. Seriously, do you sometimes think to yourself 'how did i ever become so fucking thick?' or does it just not occur to you? Take the quality of your spelling for example, I was willing to not mention it as i thought you might just be dyslexic or using English as your 4th language....but no i think you are just really really stupid.

In fact people like you have no purpose in life. Ever considered sterilisation?
 
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