Do I Run Tren A and Tren E Side by Side

[pbhardbody]

Getting ready to start new cycle and would like to get feedback on it.
I am 6' 3" 275 lbs, about 13% bodyfat.

Here is the stack:

EQ - 450 - 600/wk
Sustanon - 750 - 900/wk
Tren A - 400/wk
Tren E - 600/wk
Proviron - 100 mg/day
50 mg am
50 mg pm

Note that a couple have "ranges". Two cycles ago I ran at the bottom end of these. ie Sust - 750mg/wk; EQ - 450mg/wk and Tren A 400mg/wk.

I thought about bumping these up to the tops I listed to see if I get improved results. Thoughts?

That cycle was the first time Ive ever ran Tren A and I loved it. Got strong as a bull, yet I got leaner throughout the cycle. awesome stuff...

This time I wanted to run Tren E so I could do 3 pins a week instead of 4. I read a suggestion to start the cycle out with Tren A (faster acting ester) as well as Tren E. This gets the Tren working faster right?

Now if Im going to run Tren A - 400/wk and Tren E - 600/wk, do I start out with both of them at those amounts or do I take a less aggressive approach and increase the dosing over time? At what point do I phase out the Tren A?

Thanks

 

[RADAR]

Age please,and not a good idea without some test in there


RADAR

 

[pbhardbody]

Age please,and not a good idea without some test in there


RADAR

Hey - I'm 45. The stack has Sustanon in it. Gonna run 750-900mg/wk of it, plus EQ at 450 - 600mg/wk
plus Proviron.

 

[RADAR]

Getting ready to start new cycle and would like to get feedback on it.
I am 6' 3" 275 lbs, about 13% bodyfat.

Here is the stack:

EQ - 450 - 600/wk
Sustanon - 750 - 900/wk
Tren A - 400/wk
Tren E - 600/wk
Proviron - 100 mg/day
50 mg am
50 mg pm

Note that a couple have "ranges". Two cycles ago I ran at the bottom end of these. ie Sust - 750mg/wk; EQ - 450mg/wk and Tren A 400mg/wk.

I thought about bumping these up to the tops I listed to see if I get improved results. Thoughts?

That cycle was the first time Ive ever ran Tren A and I loved it. Got strong as a bull, yet I got leaner throughout the cycle. awesome stuff...

This time I wanted to run Tren E so I could do 3 pins a week instead of 4. I read a suggestion to start the cycle out with Tren A (faster acting ester) as well as Tren E. This gets the Tren working faster right?

Now if Im going to run Tren A - 400/wk and Tren E - 600/wk, do I start out with both of them at those amounts or do I take a less aggressive approach and increase the dosing over time? At what point do I phase out the Tren A?

Thanks

Results depend on your diet,and training intensity ,i bet you could do just as good at a lower dosage.

RADAR

 

[pbhardbody]

Results depend on your diet,and training intensity ,i bet you could do just as good at a lower dosage.

RADAR

Diet is dialed in, and training intensity is there. So with that in line, you are saying that jumping from 750 to 900 on sust I wont probably see much more in gains?

What do you know about running both Trens together etc Radar?

 

[RADAR]

Tren Ace is a good kick starter however that kickstart is not worth it in my book, I usually run Tren Ace so i can get it out of my system faster,tren is tren its the esther that makes it hang around.

I ran it
Test eth 750
Tren ace mon wed fri 75mgs even at that dosage it killed my libido

RADAR

 

[pbhardbody]

Tren Ace is a good kick starter however that kickstart is not worth it in my book, I usually run Tren Ace so i can get it out of my system faster,tren is tren its the esther that makes it hang around.

I ran it
Test eth 750
Tren ace mon wed fri 75mgs even at that dosage it killed my libido

RADAR

huh - last time I ran tren ace at 100 mg 4 eod. didnt affect libido at all. that was with test enth with it at 750 mg. just goes to show you everyone is a little different I guess.

thanks for the feedback Radar. anyone else got any experience with rotating from tren a to tren e?

 

[DJ_UFO]

Tren A and Tren E stacked?? Geezus my cawk shrank reading that. Be aware that Tren is very toxic and very heavy on HPTA

 

[Divinehybridx]

I would stick to one or the other

 

[pbhardbody]

Tren A and Tren E stacked?? Geezus my cawk shrank reading that. Be aware that Tren is very toxic and very heavy on HPTA

lol my goal is to use Tren E and do 3 pins a week instead of 4. Id read on EF that you can start the cycle with Tren A to get it into your system quickly and then switch to Tren E and do less pins.

So I dont really want to run them at the same time. I want to start with the Tren A and then switch to Tren E. And Im trying to learn how long to run the Tren A before switching, etc.

Suggestions?

 

[nydj66]

lol my goal is to use Tren E and do 3 pins a week instead of 4. Id read on EF that you can start the cycle with Tren A to get it into your system quickly and then switch to Tren E and do less pins.

So I dont really want to run them at the same time. I want to start with the Tren A and then switch to Tren E. And Im trying to learn how long to run the Tren A before switching, etc.

Suggestions?

The sust and EQ are both long ester AAS that will take a while to build up to full strength in your system and should be run for long cycles.

Why the need to get just tren into your system so fast? Why not just go with sust, EQ, tren-E?

 

[pbhardbody]

The sust and EQ are both long ester AAS that will take a while to build up to full strength in your system and should be run for long cycles.

Why the need to get just tren into your system so fast? Why not just go with sust, EQ, tren-E?

Thanks for feedback.

I usually do run longer cycles. No need for just the tren to get into my system fast. The sust blend includes shorter esters too so some of it should kick start fairly quickly.

Since I have both a and e, Im thinking of running the bottle of a and then when it is gone use the e. Any downside of doing that?
Like Radar said, it's all the same stuff just different esters so shouldnt hurt to run one and then the other right

 

[future]

I agree. And bringing down the dosing across the board. Thats alot of gear.

 

[future]

Thanks for feedback.

I usually do run longer cycles. No need for just the tren to get into my system fast. The sust blend includes shorter esters too so some of it should kick start fairly quickly.

Since I have both a and e, Im thinking of running the bottle of a and then when it is gone use the e. Any downside of doing that?

Yes blends have faster acting but not so much that overall makes a big difference. I personally would think Test E or Cyp would be a cleaner choice overall as well BUT you gotta use what you have right?

 

[pbhardbody]

I agree. And bringing down the dosing across the board. Thats alot of gear.

Thanks for feeback.

Are you saying stay at the bottom end of the ranges I listed or even less than that?

I ran the bottom end last cycle and put on a lot of muscle, strength, but also lost abt
7% bodyfat. I didnt run sust that cycle. ran test e

 

[pbhardbody]

Yes blends have faster acting but not so much that overall makes a big difference. I personally would think Test E or Cyp would be a cleaner choice overall as well BUT you gotta use what you have right?

Thanks. Im curious what you mean by a "cleaner choice"?

Also what was the title of the thread that included your squat set series that went to 585? I cant find the thread and wanted to jot down the sets to try that in a couple weeks after this gear kicks in.

Hey congrats too

 

[Tux]

Tren is NOT that toxic for the last time. It is very androgenic though so will suppress HPTA harshly. I'd start both at the same time... tren E at whatever dosage you want and the tren A at a lower dosage for the first 3-4 weeks, then stop the tren A. Same principle as frontloading a test cyp or enth cycle with test prop. Those doses do seem a bit high, but if you've run them before and monitored yourself, well like you said, everyone is different. Just so long as newbies don't get the idea that that's a "normal" cycle... probably just what you need at 6'3", 275 and 45yrs old. Good luck, I love tren and will soon be doing a cycle much like yours!

 

[HAYEZ]

you can front load the ace to get things moving the first month..then id drop it ,the tren e should kick in by then..start both same day

a warning about running the eq and the tren together..you may have a bad time with anxiety...my current cycle was this

test 400mg ew
deca 600mg ew
tren 700mg ew
eq 600mg ew

the eq made me fucking nuts man..its like i was cracked out on coke all day long..by week 8 i had to drop it..never again will i mix the two together..actually never again will i use eq..i wish i could donate it for a tax write off i still have 20ml...lol j/k

if your set on takign eq id replace it with deca...or drop it all together

 

[pbhardbody]

Tren is NOT that toxic for the last time. It is very androgenic though so will suppress HPTA harshly. I'd start both at the same time... tren E at whatever dosage you want and the tren A at a lower dosage for the first 3-4 weeks, then stop the tren A. Same principle as frontloading a test cyp or enth cycle with test prop. Those doses do seem a bit high, but if you've run them before and monitored yourself, well like you said, everyone is different. Just so long as newbies don't get the idea that that's a "normal" cycle... probably just what you need at 6'3", 275 and 45yrs old. Good luck, I love tren and will soon be doing a cycle much like yours!

Hey thanks for all the info. I started the cycle yesterday afternoon, and then saw your post this morning. I decided to run these doses:

Sust - 750 mg/wk 250mg m w f
EQ - 450mg/wk 150mg m w f
Tren A - 400mg/wk 100mg m w f sat

These are identical to dosing I ran last cycle with this combo and it did very well for me. I decided to run all at the low end of the ranges I had listed before. If it ain't broke dont fix it right?

I agree and thanks for pointing out that these doses are not a normal cycle especially for a newbie.

On the Tren A - the bottle will last 2.5 weeks. So I decided to run it by itself for 1.5 weeks and then the second week run the Tren E along side the A for a week.

The active life of Tren A is 2-3 days. Active life of Tren E is 8 days. So if the active life is 8 days, it would start working at something less than that correct?

If that is correct, then a one week overlap of running both together should get the Tren E to kick in before I stop the Tren A.

What do you think of this strategy?

I love tren too.

From : trenbolone is an excellent mass and hardening drug with the majority of gains being muscle fiber, with minimal water retention (1) It has an unbelievable anabolic (muscle building) score of 500. When you compare that to testosterone, which itself is a powerful mass builder, and has an anabolic score of 100 you can begin to fathom the muscle building potential of trenbolone.

 

[pbhardbody]

you can front load the ace to get things moving the first month..then id drop it ,the tren e should kick in by then..start both same day

a warning about running the eq and the tren together..you may have a bad time with anxiety...my current cycle was this

test 400mg ew
deca 600mg ew
tren 700mg ew
eq 600mg ew

the eq made me fucking nuts man..its like i was cracked out on coke all day long..by week 8 i had to drop it..never again will i mix the two together..actually never again will i use eq..i wish i could donate it for a tax write off i still have 20ml...lol j/k

if your set on takign eq id replace it with deca...or drop it all together

Hey thanks for the heads up on the eq. How did you last 8 weeks like that? haha

Ive been running eq with deca, and tren and it hasnt caused any issues. I like running eq better than deca because there is no water retention and it really hardens me up.