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LVTitan
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if the doc wants to put it down in your file, then yeah i'm sure it could affect your insurance and it could follow you around forever.
only md's that know are my mom's doc (who gave me the whole speach and made me promise not to do them again)
and my dermatologist, for obvious reasons, but he's a cool cat.
only md's that know are my mom's doc (who gave me the whole speach and made me promise not to do them again)
and my dermatologist, for obvious reasons, but he's a cool cat.
Stainless_Steel
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I told my doc about it. I actually asked him to prescribe test. He said he couldn't do that, but he would give me the pins. He also told me to try DHEA and about how good it was(lol). He's a pretty cool doctor so I figured it wouldn't hurt to ask.
silverbackn
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It sucks that it's hard to find a doc who won't preach at you, even though you know about 1,000 times more about it than he does. You should be able to just say, I'm a grown ass man and I am making this decision so don't preach just help me do it safely. Fucking doctors, pompous asses.
Bruce
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u can take their entire business with a lawyer if they were to give out that info. ok if you go in for steroid related things it will only say that you were treated and what medicines were used. no way is it on your file. i got a sterile infection from putting to much juice in one glute and not rubbing around long enough. had to go to the doc, she is hot as balls and she was feeling around my ass for the bump, quite funny and embarassing. she gave me a speech and showed me some article in the ny times about kids dying. but they can't tell anyone. i wondered what the file would look like so i requested a copy and it said pain in glute thats it. my sister and father are both high profile attorneys and trust me a doc will lose his whole practice to malpractice for telling someone about your juice, even your mom if you are an adult. now if your 16 he can tell mommy no prob. docs are there to cure, not to punish. shit i have told over 5 docs, i had to have gallbladder removal during a cycle and told them i was on deca, surgeon says "ok well you'll probably heal faster" most smart doctors do not hate steroids because they have seen them used to save lives in cancer, birth defects. and a host of others. radar i think posted this a while back unreal.
You read about steroids in the media lately and most of it if not all of it is negative. I was reading the paper today and came across this column which is awesome in my opinion.
ORLANDO — I am a steroid, and I am mad.
Why have I become such a bad word in this country when I do so much good in this world?
Why has my honorable name been soiled just because a few dishonorable athletes have abused me?
Renowned doctors worldwide have called me a wonder drug, but I am being portrayed nationally as the dirty little secret of the hulked-up, bulked-up juicers in Major League Baseball. I am actually being painted by grandstanding politicians as a death sentence for the youth of America.
Let me tell you something. My job is to rescue kids, not kill them. I have saved thousands upon thousands of premature babies who are injected with me to help their little lungs develop quickly so they can breath, so they can live. Without me, these babies, some of whom don’t even weigh one pound, would be killed by something called “Respiratory Distress Syndrome” — a sometimes fatal disorder where the air sacs collapse in their underdeveloped lungs.
“There’s no question that steroids have saved the lives of many babies,” says Dr. David Auerbach, the director of the neonatal intensive care unit at the Arnold Palmer Hospital for Children. “They’ve had an incredible impact. There are times when they are the difference between life and death.”
You see, it was always my intention to help the many sick people who need me, not the few sickos who exploit me. It was never my desire to help Barry Bonds grow muscles. It was always my mission to shrink tumors in cancer patients.
That’s right, I have become one of the major medical combatants in the fight against cancer. I help patients overcome the nauseous effects of chemotherapy. I simultaneously help build up their strength while tearing down the disease. And sometimes, when all is lost, I am prescribed in the advanced stages of terminal cancer to help victims cope — to increase their appetite, to make them feel better.
“There are some steroids that will literally destroy cancer,” says Dr. Clarence Brown, the president of the M.D. Anderson Cancer Center here in Orlando. “There are many patients who are alive and well because of steroids. I don’t think any doctor would argue that steroids have saved a lot of lives — many more lives than they have cost.”
Actually, I’m not so sure that I’ve been directly responsible for taking a single life. Everybody always brings up the name Lyle Alzado — the former Oakland Raider steroid abuser who died in 1992. Has anybody bothered to check out Alzado’s cause of death? Everybody just assumes it was me. But doctors say he died of complications from brain cancer, and there is absolutely no medical evidence that I cause brain cancer.
Much has been made by self-indulgent politicians about how I’m becoming an epidemic among America’s teenagers. This was the contrived reason they gave for holding a congressional hearing on baseball players who use me. Really, it was just so these politicians could see themselves on SportsCenter.
The fact is that less than one percent of college and high school students have ever taken me recreationally. Compare that with the nearly 25 percent who have smoked cigarettes, 30 percent who have used marijuana and 80 percent who have consumed alcohol.
Considering the number of teenagers who die every year as the result of drunk driving, I suggest our federal government forget about me and hold a congressional hearing on the hard liquor ads NASCAR allows on the sides of its racecars.
And considering the number of teenagers who pollute their lungs with nicotine, maybe we should hold a congressional hearing on why the PGA Tour still allows its “athletes” to smoke cigarettes during competition.
Unlike these other drugs, I save people and benefit society. I help breathe life into new babies and comfort old people who are taking their last breaths. Everywhere you look, there is somebody I’ve cured or strengthened.
In fact, the writer of this column has a daughter who, while still in the womb, was given steroids to help her survive. Jessica is now a healthy, beautiful and intelligent 5-year-old who some believe will become the first woman president of the United States.
And the editor of this column was seriously ill five years ago and was given steroids to successfully reduce swelling in his liver due to a chronic condition. He continues to be a loud, obnoxious Bostonian who has lived long enough to finally see his Red Sox win a World Series.
I am a steroid, and I am a good drug.
So just leave me alone and let me do my job.
Mike Bianchi is a columnist for the Orlando Sentinel and KRT News Wire.
You read about steroids in the media lately and most of it if not all of it is negative. I was reading the paper today and came across this column which is awesome in my opinion.
ORLANDO — I am a steroid, and I am mad.
Why have I become such a bad word in this country when I do so much good in this world?
Why has my honorable name been soiled just because a few dishonorable athletes have abused me?
Renowned doctors worldwide have called me a wonder drug, but I am being portrayed nationally as the dirty little secret of the hulked-up, bulked-up juicers in Major League Baseball. I am actually being painted by grandstanding politicians as a death sentence for the youth of America.
Let me tell you something. My job is to rescue kids, not kill them. I have saved thousands upon thousands of premature babies who are injected with me to help their little lungs develop quickly so they can breath, so they can live. Without me, these babies, some of whom don’t even weigh one pound, would be killed by something called “Respiratory Distress Syndrome” — a sometimes fatal disorder where the air sacs collapse in their underdeveloped lungs.
“There’s no question that steroids have saved the lives of many babies,” says Dr. David Auerbach, the director of the neonatal intensive care unit at the Arnold Palmer Hospital for Children. “They’ve had an incredible impact. There are times when they are the difference between life and death.”
You see, it was always my intention to help the many sick people who need me, not the few sickos who exploit me. It was never my desire to help Barry Bonds grow muscles. It was always my mission to shrink tumors in cancer patients.
That’s right, I have become one of the major medical combatants in the fight against cancer. I help patients overcome the nauseous effects of chemotherapy. I simultaneously help build up their strength while tearing down the disease. And sometimes, when all is lost, I am prescribed in the advanced stages of terminal cancer to help victims cope — to increase their appetite, to make them feel better.
“There are some steroids that will literally destroy cancer,” says Dr. Clarence Brown, the president of the M.D. Anderson Cancer Center here in Orlando. “There are many patients who are alive and well because of steroids. I don’t think any doctor would argue that steroids have saved a lot of lives — many more lives than they have cost.”
Actually, I’m not so sure that I’ve been directly responsible for taking a single life. Everybody always brings up the name Lyle Alzado — the former Oakland Raider steroid abuser who died in 1992. Has anybody bothered to check out Alzado’s cause of death? Everybody just assumes it was me. But doctors say he died of complications from brain cancer, and there is absolutely no medical evidence that I cause brain cancer.
Much has been made by self-indulgent politicians about how I’m becoming an epidemic among America’s teenagers. This was the contrived reason they gave for holding a congressional hearing on baseball players who use me. Really, it was just so these politicians could see themselves on SportsCenter.
The fact is that less than one percent of college and high school students have ever taken me recreationally. Compare that with the nearly 25 percent who have smoked cigarettes, 30 percent who have used marijuana and 80 percent who have consumed alcohol.
Considering the number of teenagers who die every year as the result of drunk driving, I suggest our federal government forget about me and hold a congressional hearing on the hard liquor ads NASCAR allows on the sides of its racecars.
And considering the number of teenagers who pollute their lungs with nicotine, maybe we should hold a congressional hearing on why the PGA Tour still allows its “athletes” to smoke cigarettes during competition.
Unlike these other drugs, I save people and benefit society. I help breathe life into new babies and comfort old people who are taking their last breaths. Everywhere you look, there is somebody I’ve cured or strengthened.
In fact, the writer of this column has a daughter who, while still in the womb, was given steroids to help her survive. Jessica is now a healthy, beautiful and intelligent 5-year-old who some believe will become the first woman president of the United States.
And the editor of this column was seriously ill five years ago and was given steroids to successfully reduce swelling in his liver due to a chronic condition. He continues to be a loud, obnoxious Bostonian who has lived long enough to finally see his Red Sox win a World Series.
I am a steroid, and I am a good drug.
So just leave me alone and let me do my job.
Mike Bianchi is a columnist for the Orlando Sentinel and KRT News Wire.
showtime2004
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not necessarily. in florida, i know for sure, there is no doctor-patient confidentiality law.
Bruce
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r u sure about that. i think it is all doctors period. it is in the oath you take after medical school. i am positive that a doctor cannot talk about your problems with others. think of a pyschiatrist. they are not even allowed to acknowledge that they know another patient that you could be best friends with. a doc needs your signature to release anything about your health, even to your insurance company. that is a nationwide law you can find on google.
showtime2004
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bruce410 said:
Let me rephrase. I think we are talking about different things. I know for a fact that you can't claim doctor-patient privilege in a legal proceeding. For instance, if the DA gets your doctor on the stand and says:
DA: Dr. Jones, have you ever treated Bruce
Dr. Jones: Yes.
DA: In treating Bruce was it ever apartent to you that he was using anabolic steriods.
At this point, your lawyer can't object on the grounds of doctor-patient privilege, like they could for lawyer-cleint privliege. At least in Florida. I know the release of medical information is closly regulated under HIPPA, but I'm not really sure how it relates to law enforcment access to that information.
I am not sure if you want to get your test levels checked out or your blood lipid profile. If its your lipid profile, just tell the doc you wanted to get it checked out for piece of mind, if the doc doesnt know your family, you can them that high colesterol runs in your family and so on.
i told my doctor and it went like this
doc: you know thats bad for you?
me: yeah.?
doc: why are you taking it
me: to gain wieght
doc: oh?...what are you taking
me: tren and test
doc: tren? never heard of it...well just finish up your cycle and stay off it
no "we should do blood work" no nothing....personally i think family doctors dont know sh*t about hormones...its like going to a foot doctor for a problem with your ears
doc: you know thats bad for you?
me: yeah.?
doc: why are you taking it
me: to gain wieght
doc: oh?...what are you taking
me: tren and test
doc: tren? never heard of it...well just finish up your cycle and stay off it
no "we should do blood work" no nothing....personally i think family doctors dont know sh*t about hormones...its like going to a foot doctor for a problem with your ears
LVTitan
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bruce410 said:
it's called the hipocratic oath.
and i have heard of people who have been denied their health/life insurance because steroid use was listed on their medical records.
i dont know the laws or any exact cases so i wont pretend to know the answer to this question..sorry
LVTitan said:
Right.......doctor/patient privelege.
If you've got the kind of health insurance that actually snoops around and asks your doctor behind your back these types of questions I'd drop them like a bad habit and get new insurance. That shit doesn't fly!
DIV
bruce410 said:
Ask for a blood panel......that's what I do!
I get my shit trumptight and exactly when I want it, no questions asked.
The doc is there to monitor your health and answer any concerns you may have, it's not their job to bust your nuts over AAS or other shit.
Remember, if they piss you off you can find another doc and that means less for them......remember that shit.......NUGGA!
DIV
glennds
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if you can't trust your doctor enough to be honest than you need to find a new doctor. remember, they are your hired help, so to speak.
i fessed up to my doc about my AAS use in February of this year after i couldnt explain away inexplicably sharp increases in my BP, liver panels, and cholesterol. he was completely nonjudgemental. he advised me against it of course...
all this talk about AAS use going in your medical file. that could cause a problem for you if an insurance carrier decides to order an attending physicians report when you apply for a life or health policy.
this happens less than you might think. if you are getting bloodwork done, say for a life ins policy, your real problem will be your elevated vitals. best to not use AAS for at least 6-8 weeks before getting any sort of insurance related paramedical exam.
i fessed up to my doc about my AAS use in February of this year after i couldnt explain away inexplicably sharp increases in my BP, liver panels, and cholesterol. he was completely nonjudgemental. he advised me against it of course...
all this talk about AAS use going in your medical file. that could cause a problem for you if an insurance carrier decides to order an attending physicians report when you apply for a life or health policy.
this happens less than you might think. if you are getting bloodwork done, say for a life ins policy, your real problem will be your elevated vitals. best to not use AAS for at least 6-8 weeks before getting any sort of insurance related paramedical exam.
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