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Do all orals negatively affect lipds?

halfcenturian said:
HORSE SHIT!!! If you Mega dose fish oil and Krill Oil, omega 3-6-9's, Niacin, etc., etc. They can remain stable. I just had my blood work done early. 5 weeks post cycle which includedTest, Deca, Dbol and Anavar. My lipids wer perfect.
Don't make a broad, brush stroke statement like, "there is nothing you can do about it." Because I'm proof that you are wrong.

the question is does it effect levels WHILE ON not 5 weeks post cycle which gave you plenty of time to get your levels back to normal. have your levels tested at the end of the 5th week and then tell us they were normal....NOT. well maybe if you did 5-10mgs day with a bottle of omega's. ANYONE who does a cycle of orals is gonna have there hdl/ldl levels effected while ON CYCLE. THE END.............
 
halfcenturian said:
Do you have a copy of my medical Chart ??? LOL!

I'll be 52, junior... You, INDEED, are an arrogant ass. I had a heart scan, you can google it. My coronary arterties were 95% clean!
YOU may want to have a head scan.
I have worked in the medical field for over 20 years. My Dr. says my cardiovascular system, and lipid panels, are like that of a healthy 30 year old.

So people, take solace in knowing not to listen to people who don't know what they are talking about. And presume to know YOUR medical background. Do your own homework and take the necessary precautions to avoid liver and lipid issues.

I'd like to know what your diet consists of, also if you include any cardio in your lifestyle? Seriously... Results like that are envious, shit I'm 26 and my Dr says i'm healthy as an ox and I know my arteries are more clogged than 5%..
 
halfcenturian said:
Do you have a copy of my medical Chart ??? LOL!

I'll be 52, junior... You, INDEED, are an arrogant ass. I had a heart scan, you can google it. My coronary arterties were 95% clean!
YOU may want to have a head scan.
I have worked in the medical field for over 20 years. My Dr. says my cardiovascular system, and lipid panels, are like that of a healthy 30 year old.

So people, take solace in knowing not to listen to people who don't know what they are talking about. And presume to know YOUR medical background. Do your own homework and take the necessary precautions to avoid liver and lipid issues.


It looks like you did not take my prior advice to be a better reader. In my last post I made two primary claims:

1) A test, deca, dbol, anavar cycle put your lipids in the shit hole while you were on cycle.

2) Doing a couple cycles a year over many years has a cumulative effect in plaque formation, since low HDL and high LDL on cycle, contribute to plaque growth.

Nothing you have said contradicts 1.

Nothing you have said contradicts 2. The fact that you have a clean cardiovascular bill of health, says nothing, without a run down on your AAS history, and frankly whatever you now claim about that would be dubious given the ax you apparently want to grind here.

Was the fish oil you have been taking from Red Herrings? - because that is all you have offered so far.

You say I can google your heart scan? Where is it? Do I google halfcenturion and heart scan? Tried it, nothing comes up. Can I google your AAS history, too?

BTW, not that it matters, since apparently age does not guarantee wisdom, but I am 51, you old fugger.
 
gjohnson5 said:
The question obviously depends on the person but I would be very surprised if one went to Quest Diagnostics and got a blood test. Then did 6 weeks of var and on the last dosage their good lipids rose...


I did just that.

6 weeks of Anavar (HG) @ 50 milligrams / day.

Diet is admirable - well balanced, plenty of macronutrients, supps, etc etc.

Before Var:

HDL: 60
LDL: 98


After Var:

HDL: Less than 15
LDL: 115
 
Harleymarleybone said:
Maybe he better get a second opinion on his heart. Seems like he has hypertension, at least.
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Sorry boys, I just got back from a hike up the Flatirons...Beautiful day!

You can google, The Flatirons, Boulder, CO.

You can google my dick, too! :FRlol: You still talkin' smack, nigga?

LOL ! My BP was 134/78... I am not the least bit mad, dog :)

But I'm done with this thread, with YOU, and your boy, SHAFT too. Peace! :wavey:
 
halfcenturian said:
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Sorry boys, I just got back from a hike up the Flatirons...Beautiful day!

You can google, The Flatirons, Boulder, CO.

You can google my dick, too! :FRlol: You still talkin' smack, nigga?

LOL ! My BP was 134/78... I am not the least bit mad, dog :)

But I'm done with this thread, with YOU, and your boy, SHAFT too. Peace! :wavey:

In other words, you say you have evidence for your claims but don't provide any when pressed. Never underestimate the power of denial.
 
Good responses intermixed the bickering. Thank you.

My main question regards if all orals impact lipids while on cycle and form that nasty plaque. I ask because in terms of side-effects I believe the impact on lipds and cardiovascular health the number one concern. Damage to the endocrine system a close second.
 
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