DNP stacking

[sandman123]

Hi All - I was taking DNP, about 400mg/day (weight ~90Kg) and lost about 12 lbs in a week. I wanted to do another DNP cycle but I started sustanon (375mg / wk). Can I take DNP while on the sustanon or is this like a really stupid question?

 

[Wulfgar]

Of course you can. just always be careful with such a powerful and dangerous compound.

 

[Burpees]

It's not a stupid question. Yes it can be done, what isn't known though is how the body responds in terms of gains.. Do you still gain weight on DNP while taking AAS? It disrupts the ATP function so its hard to tell. You also retain water on DNP and on your cycle..

I'm running my cycle long, so I've decided to do 10 days of DNP @ 400mg.. I'm on day 8. My weight is up, by 5lbs. But my mid section is very much leaner.. Even my pants feel loose.

 

[Wulfgar]

if you are pushing to gain still a short DNP burst is a great time to massively up your carb and protien intake because DNP truncates the insulin molecule making it very hard to store anything as fat even with a very very high calorie intake

 

[centy]

I still don't understand why anyone would need to lose so much weight so badly/fast to have to resort to something as dangerous as DNP. Maybe I'm just a pussy.

 

[Burpees]

if you are pushing to gain still a short DNP burst is a great time to massively up your carb and protien intake because DNP truncates the insulin molecule making it very hard to store anything as fat even with a very very high calorie intake

Ok you have experience on this.. How about eating maintenance like I am with the DNP? I notice my weight went up 5lbs, due to retention.. But im looking extra lean in the midsection which is normal on DNP.. I assume to drop 10lbs now when I finish the 10 day run..something like 6 of fat 4 of water.dunno..

DO you think one should still be upping their calories while running both DNP and gear? I'm on 750 of Test, 300 of Tren, and 400 of DNP daily, 33-35k cals, which has had me at 220 for the last 4 weeks of my cycle (on week 11 now) and 3 days after the DNP was the start of water increase.. It's also been 5 days since I run Adex..

I still don't understand why anyone would need to lose so much weight so badly/fast to have to resort to something as dangerous as DNP. Maybe I'm just a pussy.

Nah you're not a pussy, just not educated enough about DNP. It's less dangerous than No2 products.

 

[centy]

Nah you're not a pussy, just not educated enough about DNP. It's less dangerous than No2 products.

 

[ViperHMS]

Ok you have experience on this.. How about eating maintenance like I am with the DNP? I notice my weight went up 5lbs, due to retention.. But im looking extra lean in the midsection which is normal on DNP.. I assume to drop 10lbs now when I finish the 10 day run..something like 6 of fat 4 of water.dunno..

DO you think one should still be upping their calories while running both DNP and gear? I'm on 750 of Test, 300 of Tren, and 400 of DNP daily, 33-35k cals, which has had me at 220 for the last 4 weeks of my cycle (on week 11 now) and 3 days after the DNP was the start of water increase.. It's also been 5 days since I run Adex..



Nah you're not a pussy, just not educated enough about DNP. It's less dangerous than No2 products.

Holy shit bro how do you manage to eat 33,000-35,000 calories a day? LOL

 

[eddymerckx]

a typical DNP Stack

 

[ViperHMS]

I'm guessing he meant 3300-3500/day.......if not, thats one eatin machine right there

Yeah I figured as much thats why I put a LOL at the end of that. Could you imagine the amount of poo someone would make in a day eating 33k cals a day? LMAO

 

[centy]

lol no shit. Just thinking about Phelps' 12000 cals/day makes me have to go take a shit.
But I digress; Bro - if you're gonna fuck w/ teh DNP, please be careful.

 

[sandman123]

I still don't understand why anyone would need to lose so much weight so badly/fast to have to resort to something as dangerous as DNP. Maybe I'm just a pussy.

DNP really isn't that dangerous. Lethal doses are greater than 20mg/Kg to as much as 50mg/Kg, or 2 to 5 grams for someone weighing 100 Kg! A 400mg intake barely has noticeable side effects. My body temp doesn't exceed 99ºF and I check 2-3 times a day. I sweat at night but not too noticeably during the day. Without going to the gym or doing anything vigorous I feel like I've run a marathon. I go to the gym in the AM before I get tired and still get a great workout. I've done a few sust cycles and my body responds in an amazing way as far as size but sometimes its dirty bulk. I'm psyched at the idea of stacking DNP with sust cause it'll hopefully be clean mass.

Ok you have experience on this.. How about eating maintenance like I am with the DNP? I notice my weight went up 5lbs, due to retention.. But im looking extra lean in the midsection which is normal on DNP.. I assume to drop 10lbs now when I finish the 10 day run..something like 6 of fat 4 of water.dunno..

DO you think one should still be upping their calories while running both DNP and gear? I'm on 750 of Test, 300 of Tren, and 400 of DNP daily, 33-35k cals, which has had me at 220 for the last 4 weeks of my cycle (on week 11 now) and 3 days after the DNP was the start of water increase.. It's also been 5 days since I run Adex..

I've done a few DNP cycles usually during my PCT to clean up any dirty bulk. I usually retain about 2-3 lbs of water and don't see the scale drop during the first 4-5 days but I usually go down a belt loop. The last 3-4 days I see a drop in BW but I'm still retaining the water, its the fat coming off. When I stop the DNP, within a day and a half I drop about 2lbs in water retention and then 3 days I drop about 6-10 more lbs. I've also found that doing 8 days at 400mg/day followed by 8 more days at 200mg/day gives even better results.

As far as eating maintenance during DNP, I keep the calories pretty low, about 1800 for me at 190 lbs. But of that 1800 calories about 50% should be carbs. Thats right, I said 50% carbs and then 15% fat and 35% protein. I seen the best results with that but its always been post cycle. DNP with gear.... I think you're right on target with 3000-3500 calories just make about 40% of that carbs.

Just thinking about Phelps' 12000 cals/day makes me have to go take a shit.

GO Phelps!!

 

[centy]

"Deaths have occurred in people who ingested 3-46 milligrams of dinitrophenols per kilogram of body weight per day (3-46 mg/kg/day) for short periods, or 1-4 mg/kg/day for long periods. Also, people who breathed air containing 40 mg dinitrophenols per cubic meter of air (40 mg/m3) for long periods have died.

The amount of dinitrophenols ingested that causes harmful effects varies among people. Increased basal metabolic rate (the rate that you use energy at complete rest), increased sweating, a feeling of warmth, weight loss, and increased heart rate, breathing rate, and body temperature have been observed in people who swallowed as little as 1 mg/kg/day or as much as 46 mg/kg/day for short or long periods of time.

Ingesting 2-4 mg/kg/day DNP for short or long periods has caused cataracts in some people, while ingesting 1-4 mg/kg/day for short or long periods has caused skin rashes and decreases in white blood cells. "

Ref: Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry (ATSDR). 1995. Toxicological Profile for Dinitrophenols. Atlanta, GA: U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, Public Health Service.

 

[cobracock1979]

Hmm- sounds too good to be true. What about the rebound afterward?

Any experiences/ results with DNP?

 

[Burpees]

Holy shit bro how do you manage to eat 33,000-35,000 calories a day? LOL

lol..

what he said..

I'm guessing he meant 3300-3500/day.......if not, thats one eatin machine right there