DNP emergency

[chrisoh]

Hey all, my roommate starting taking 400mg DNP a day for 3 days when he had to stop because it was unbearable, it's been 2 days and he's still feeling like shit, not as hot but the problem is that he is throwing up everything he eats and drinks. He feels really really bad and he's dehydrated but he throws up everything he eats and drinks. He has a cold head. What should I do and what is it the problem and did anyone else have it? He went and came from the ER, they didnt know what was wrong from him.

 

[Delinquent]

What did his diet looked like before symptons occured? I know I've seen a lot of guys say they've eaten a piece of fruit or anything with sugar to get over those kind of symptons.

 

[chrisoh]

He was eating an isocaloric diet before I think but he couldn't eat anything today because of low energy and the vomiting. I just got him an apple and he threw that up too.

 

[spentagn]

Did he tell the ER he was on DNP? I don't like offering more info than needed, but this sounds kinda bad. It sounds like he is really alergic to it. I don't know why else he'd react this way to that dosage. Be carefull. Ice him down if he's feeling hot, try to get him hydrated. If he continues to throw up water, I'd take him back to the hospital (go to the tech hospital) and get him an IV.

 

[Scatback55]

Take him to the doctors ASAP. DNP is lethal and was originally used in the manufacture of insecticides, explosives and color dyes. In fact a 22 year old college student just dropped dead not so long ago by using it. It litterally cooked his internal organs, killing him from the inside out. DNP is no game and causes permanent organ damage. My guess is he may have already caused some damage and needs to goto the ER and recieve supportive care and mostlikely IV's and diagnostic testing. When you take him take the bottle of DNP with you and give it to the doctor and advise the doctor he was taking and dosages. The doctor will need to know this information so he will know what he is dealing with. Rather than running a bunch of uneccessary time consuming tests while he will be getting sicker in the mean time. He needs help ASAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It doesn't take much to overdose. The effective dose and deadly dose are so close, with very little margin for error. A factor of 2 could be all you need to equal deadly dose. Being really hot still inside can mean cooking of inards. Our body isn't meant to with stand such intense heat.
GO NOW!!!!!!!!!!

 

[chrisoh]

He doesnt want to go back to the ER becuase of the costs and the lack of insurance, he want to be 100% he wont recover from this naturally. He says his temperature and body feels fine. just he has a really massive headache that's lingering for a long time. Did no one else have this problem before?

 

[Delinquent]

bro if he's determined to not go back, then go get a thermometer and monitor his temperature. If it gets to high, force his ass to go. If he threw up an apple, has he tried some kind of juice drink?

 

[chrisoh]

he tried drinking powerade and all of that, he kept it down this morning but now (past 3-4 hours) he's been throwing up everything.

 

[Scatback55]

What is his Temp right now?

 

[chrisoh]

his temperature's normal, forehead's cold though. He doesnt feel heat anymore, he's cold. Big problem is the headache.

 

[Scatback55]

Well, you guys are adults I hope. So take care of the situation responsibly. And stay away from DNP (toxins)
Hope all gets better bro.

 

[chrisoh]

According to the symptoms, he's really dehydrated, oral hydration's not an option since all of the vomiting. Should I let him get better or force him to go to the ER.

 

[TxLonghorn]

I would try to get him to drink his food. Make it simple like Gatorade or orange juice. Something with some sugar. Carbonation would probably help his stomach, as would pepto bismol. Sometimes on dnp my stomach bothers me, so I take some pepto and it makes it all better.

The thing is, with the long half-life of dnp, some is still in his system. Next time, if there is a next time, he should stick to 200mg/day.

 

[Zyglamail]

The thing is, with the long half-life of dnp, some is still in his system. Next time, if there is a next time, he should stick to 200mg/day.

I remember last time I told someone they should not go up in 200mg increments, I was told it was not necessary to go in smaller increments, but hell, sure seems to me its just common sense until you are familiar with how a batch is dosed and how you tolerate it.

 

[chrisoh]

Thanks for the replies guys, heres an update, he just drank about 2 cups of water and he managed to hold it down. I'll get some more powerade to see if that'll help rehydrate him.

 

[Zyglamail]

Thanks for the replies guys, heres an update, he just drank about 2 cups of water and he managed to hold it down. I'll get some more powerade to see if that'll help rehydrate him.

Well, the headache could just be cause by vomiting. I know I for one get a splitting headache when I puke. I would think he should start feeling better soon. Last run I had with DNP the effects seem to hang in for a couple days after ending cycle. As mentioned allready, if he has been vomiting a lot, I think hydration is a huge concern. Perhaps just have him chew/suck ice.

 

[Scatback55]

Your a good man. He is lucky to have a friend like you. The main goal now is hydration. Lot of fluids. Get him to drink as much as possible. If it get worse and he can't keep it down. Then take him for some IV fluids.

 

[Scatback55]

Also Karma to you for being the friend you are!!!!!!!

 

[chrisoh]

Thanks for all the replies scat, zyg, and tx, hes managed to hold the water down for longer than before and he seems to be sleeping normally for the first time in hours, I'm going to wake him up in about 20 min again so he can drink the powerade and hopefully more water and hold it down. He's exhibiting all the symptoms of dehydration, even the non-elasticity of his skin. Hopefully oral hydration will be the key.

 

[Scatback55]

good glad to hear hes keeping the fluids down.

 

[O'Stanozol]

Monitor his blood pressure

 

[chrisoh]

How do I manage BP without a machine? Also, he just drank for the second time and he's holding that down too. He says he's felling better now except for the headache and he is getting some sleep. Snoring as usual on a lighter note

 

[DaMan]

I had EXACTLY the same probs w/ 400mg crystal - first horrendous vomiting, then headaches. I just tried drinking as much as possible and then went to sleep at like 7pm, eating fruit or stuff like that didn't work for me cuz it all came back up. The next morning all was better... your friend will wake up with a REALLY dry mouth tomorrow.

Did your friend carb deplete before that? I did and think that may have been the prob, I think I was in ketosis before I took my first pill and started hitting the carbs.

For the nausea have him try potassium citrate (gnc), I hear that works and will try it if I have to next time.

 

[chrisoh]

Im glad to hear someone had the same problem DaMan, yes, he did carb deplete the day before and he is still keeping the liquids down. He's asleep now, should I keep waking him up to drink more water?

 

[Annihilator99]

Chris, I just finished up a cycle, and I ended up with a massive headache over the last few days. What may have caused it was that I kinda slacked off with my supps - big fucking mistake. I started taking them in full doses again, and I am feeling much better. What helped - anti-oxidants, ala, gatorade, minerals, and a massive dose of glycerol. Make sure your friend keeps with the supps. And you may want to try quercetin - one of the guru types suggested it - see if that helps. And the water cannot be forgotten here - make sure he gets plenty. If not - hit the ER.

This needs to be bumped for more answers.

 

[al1602]

Look I HAVE to say this... Myself completely included... THis stuff is soo fucking stupid... In July I did DNP because after I came off my cycle i was losing my gains and gaining some bodyfat..So I was like.. "cool I'll try this !" . Well,,,,,I almost FU$%ing died.. My freind had to come over and watch me.. it was horrible.. I was doing 400mg a day of what turned out to be crystal form of DNP.This went on for like almost a week.. i kept a journal of it online and posted everything.. Puking, sweats, headaches, sleeplessness.. all of it... it was the worst..
and I have been off the boards for a while (work reasons) and now getting back, ....I am reading this and am like ... Whoa! Sh%t! I feel for you man... Listen ,, if you are trying to get rid off fat, You all know (and me too) that the right diet is the key.. BUT.... of course food tastes soooo damn good!
So the next best thing that seems to work and be more bearable and make a diet work is Xenacal, Meridia, and Phenermine. They seem to be helpful for me.. I hope this helps you guys out because this DNP, is just soo damn wicked. Its like it isnt worth the reward / risk ratio... This is my "two sense" ..

 

[Lao Tzu]

i had this. i am over it.

i think it is partially caused by hyper or hypoglycemia. probably hypoglycemia.


is he getting nightmares when he sleeps, or feeling like 'i am going to die, literally' every time he gets sick?

 

[chrisoh]

Yeah, he was constantly in a negative mood, sleeplessness, etc... and all of that other stuff. I left the room to go to the store and to my surprise, my other friends in the dorms came to my room and saw my roommate and took him to the hospital. From the replies, I was sure he would get better after the night's rest so I was really angry that someone would come in and take my roomie to the hospital without me knowing, especially when he told me he was feeling better. But, he's in the hands of experienced professionals now so that's comforting. I can say that this will be the last time I ever have anything to do with DNP. You're right, it's just not worth it.

 

[DaMan]

Im glad to hear someone had the same problem DaMan, yes, he did carb deplete the day before and he is still keeping the liquids down. He's asleep now, should I keep waking him up to drink more water?

Personally I didn't wake up, but my mouth was superdry the next am... your call, depends on how sick and pissy he is.

Re carb deplete, I'm not gonna do that again, I think that was the prob. My previous cycle I did not deplete (as intensively) and as a result only ended up with a headache on day 5 at same dosage, no nausea.

BTW, if you figure out how to lose the headache let me know.

 

[Superfrk]

I have posted this info before, Do not carb deplete, Eat clean but eat all the same, Also the biggest problrm I see an probly what happened is that he let his electrolites get out of wack, I use water downed gatorade when on a DNP cycle and have never had a problem, i live in florida and my cycle just happened to be during the hotest part of the year. Also if I started feel realy bad I would drick a coke, and other than being hot would feel fine- Superfrk