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Discreet Juicing...

Interesting topic.

I've done 4 x 2 weekers. All of them 125mg prop eod and tren 50mg eod. Ridiculously low doseages you might say, btu it worked. I'm now 7kg up and still 10% bf.

I did this over a period of 5 months. People would def notice at the end of the 2 weeker (I would gain 4 kg total then drop 2 kg watertat the end, gaining about 2 kg total). Now I got acne on my back. My neighbour who is a doctor spotted it right away lol, he was suspicious, even though it was pretty slow growth (7kg in 5 months is not crazy), but it was the fuckin acne that was the giveaway.

I like the anavar idea, either that or tbol. Alternatively you could try 2 weeks on 5 weeks off, with a 10 day pct in between, this worked VERY well for me, the only problem was the #@$@$# ACNE!!!

If you do 2 weekers I'd suggest something like prop 150mg eod and var/tbol 50mg ed.

Should be itneresting...
 
Anavar doesn't come cheap..!
Not going on cycle until feb anyway.. we'll see what happens then :)
smells like 250mg test e EW for 12 weeks or so right now!
 
I agree...U of A sucks...go DEVILS!

On the thread subject...I agree...low doses, diet, training principles, rest, OTC supps...all good ideas to run with.
I recently moved and didn't know anyone in the gym...so when I got ON, I noticed people all looking at me differently...I just smile and keep lifting. Some have asked...and I feed them the same story...diet, training differently (harder), more rest...etc...good luck!
 
A buddy of mine I hadn't seen for a while jokingly accused me of being on gear becuase I had gained about 15 pounds and was jacked up right in the middle of a test cycle whrn I saw him for the 1st time - What did I tell him?

N Large and Creatine, baby!!!

If you sell it, they will buy it.


Bluesman
 
I'd agree about using test as a first cycle, but you don't know what the results will be.... I didn't grow that big on my first 2 test cycles, though I did get noticeably "puffier"... some people do, some don't.... I didn't know much about orals back then, otherwise I would've definitely started off with t-bol... won't get huge size gains, strength and vascularity will go through the roof.... sounds perfect for what you're looking for
 
TBOL - and tell them you're using NO2 and CEE with changes to diet, getting more rest etc. as mentioned previously.

Gains from TBOL are good and no puffiness/water weight to explain.
 
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