Disabled VET needs help with HRT, the VA has me all screwed up!

[a-bomb5083]

Dude you need help bro! I feel bad for you. Definitely look into AG-guys liquid products. Somebody get this guy some HCG pronto!

GOD DAMN KRISHNA!!! seems like every time i get on, you have like 400 more posts,lol. YOU LITTLE WHORE!!!

 

[krishna]

Haha....Ya for some reason when I went plat, I got like 400 added to my posts and my karma. I guess that's what happens?

Anyway, about the HCG. I was saying to use that to see if there was any chance he could stimulate his own test production again. If that's not possible, then I wouldn't mess with it. Also, dropping the Saw Palmetto will help with his excess estrogen, but it's a trade-off because he probably is taking it for a reason, and those symptoms could return if he quits using it.

 

[tommboy]

the liquidex is 1mg / ml if he took .25 mg ed that is how much he would be getting he should be takeing .5 mg ed !!!!

 

[surf4yhvh]

Wow, thanks for all the info. I was taking the saw palmetto because my Dad has some serious prostate problems and I'm starting to lose my hair a little bit. I figured I'm getting alot of DHT from the test so I thought that it would be a good idea to take it. I just started taking it maybe 2 months ago max so that's not what caused the high estrogen in the older blood tests. I didn't know saw palmetto could raise estrogen levels, I haven't seen any studies to support that. I'm going to start taking milk thistle for my liver and I might try red yeast rice and chromium to get my cholesterol down. I work part time at a friend's health food store and he's willing to get me any supplements that will help me for cost so that's why I can afford going with supplements over paying out of pocket for medicine.

I was hoping to take HCG just to see if my balls will kick back in or not since they never tried it. I just qualified for full medicaid so I went to a new endo at Shands hospital and he gave me a script for upjohn depo-testosterone 100mg/ml every 7 days. It's less test but more frequent injections so hopefully I'll be balanced out. I'm on full disability so I can't really afford to buy any HCG or prescription estrogen blockers from anybody at the present time. The only way I can see one of the doctors you guys recommend is if they are willing to take medicaid.

I have scars on my retinas from the parasites and all these secondary problems (and my right shoulder being screwed up too) so right now I'm on 100% disability. I only make about $1300 a month, after taxes. I am alot better then 5 years ago due to my own research, hard work at rehab, and paying close attention to nutrition. I'm in school trying to get a degree in nutrition and alternative medicine but I've had to withdraw a few times due to hospital stays, including this semester. Some old lady wearing sun glasses at 8 pm rear ended me in January doing about 45 so I had to withdraw. 5 months of PT and I'm finally back in the gym. It pisses me off so bad that I do everything right and I can't get rid of that last bit of bodyfat because that damn endo won't give me an anti estrogen. I made the mistake of taking some creatine 2 weeks ago and I looked like a bloated pufferfish. BTW - that mass in my left breast was shown to be gyno after a mamogram and ultrasound. The guy I went to today said he wouldn't give me an anti estrogen either! He said there are no studies done on men using nolvadex or arimidex and unless I can show him some studies he won't do it. He said the same thing with the HCG. What the hell is wrong with these freaking uneducated endochronologists??? I was trying to explain some of this to him and he was doing the deer in the headlights thing the whole time.

 

[krishna]

Sounds like you are fighting for yourself and your health; I like that. You obviously have some physical health problems, but keep up the research and determination. I support you 100% bro. I would just save a little here and there and buy the e-blockers when you can. HCG isn't very expensive either. If HCG works, I'd recommend dropping the test for a bit and starting an extensive PCT to see if you are able to recover your own test production. There's got to be some studies of HCG on men. In fact, I'm almost sure I've read one before. So a search on google. I'll see if I can round one up for you too when I get some extra time. Good luck bro!

 

[surf4yhvh]

Liquidex dosage?

the liquidex is 1mg / ml if he took .25 mg ed that is how much he would be getting he should be takeing .5 mg ed !!!!

Holy crap. I just checked out the website. I can just buy this stuff without a script? That's insane, are there any risks? What are the side effects? How much would one bottle last at the dosage I will need? I just got a new endo to prescibe me 100mg/ml depo testosterone (Upjohn testosterone cypionate) 1 ml every 7 days. I was going to try Ergo pharma 6 OXO or the new Iron tech product but if I can get that without a script and it won't screw my liver up I might go with that if it's cost effective. Thanks guys!

 

[krishna]

It's research grade and to be used to research purposes. That's why you don't need a script. Works great!

 

[surf4yhvh]

Sounds like you are fighting for yourself and your health; I like that. You obviously have some physical health problems, but keep up the research and determination. I support you 100% bro. I would just save a little here and there and buy the e-blockers when you can. HCG isn't very expensive either. If HCG works, I'd recommend dropping the test for a bit and starting an extensive PCT to see if you are able to recover your own test production. There's got to be some studies of HCG on men. In fact, I'm almost sure I've read one before. So a search on google. I'll see if I can round one up for you too when I get some extra time. Good luck bro!

How much does HCG cost and how much do you think I would need? One of my friends said he be'd willing to pay for it if it will fix me. He's seen me struggle with this thing for 5 years. I've made the mistake in the past of stopping all my meds, fasting, detoxing, and praying trying to force God to heal me but I ended up in the hospital and almost died. I found out that's not how it works. He gave me an answer, find a better doctor and get some HCG, but my nuts didn't kick back in. What doesn't kill you only makes you stronger and at least I learned from it. Thanks for the help.

 

[krishna]

Well we're actually not supposed to talk about prices on the boards. I would pm a mod and refer them to this post. They should be able to give you the best advice as to doses, duration, etc. The guru of post cycle therapy (PCT) is Jenetic. I would definitely pm him.

 

[zach01]

estrogen is high, so instead of using a estrogen blocker use less test. 5 to 10 mg of androgel a day will keep you levels right on and blood pressure.
or you can just keep taking to much test

Hello everyone. I'm a disabled VET who was diagnosed with hypogonadism after a deployment to Africa. I was a counterintelligence agent in the army and due to my job, I had to eat the local food every day in the poorest country in the world. When I came back I was riddled with parasites and thanks to them pumping me full of prednisone and tons of other stuff for a year I am now fully disabled, but hey at least I'm not blind! They diagnosed me with hypogonadism/primary testicular failure in 2000. I'm having some major problems with the way the VA endo is treating me. She now has me on 200mg of depo-testosterone every 10 days and my estrogen is way too high, over 140. My total cholesterol is 219 and my trygliserides are 248! My liver enzymes are up too and I have a hard mass under my left nipple. I have to take lithium every day to help balance my mood since I've been on the higher dose. This really sucks because I really watch my diet and I exercise. I lift 4 times per week and I surf whenever there is waves. I eat according to the "Maker's Diet" ie. lean chicken, beef, turkey, bisen, cold water fish with scales, no pork or unclean meats, plenty of veggies, nuts, seeds, some fruit, and only whole grains. The only suger I get is fruit juice post work out with some whey protein. I take a multi every day, cod liver oil, saw palmetto, zinc, glucosamine, extra vitamin C, and plenty of water.

The VA endo here refuses to give me an anti estrogen because she is uneducated. Does anyone know of a supplement that will actually work to lower my estrogen or stop aromitization of the test into estrogen? Does anyone know of a doctor that will be willing to help me? I have full medicaid so the government will pay for my treatment and meds. I'd like to try HCG with an anti estrogen if I can get it because it was never tried. The VA said it's too expensive. Any suggestions would be great. Thanks in advance.