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BigAndy69

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To all the Canadian guys, there's a local UG label going around now that is giving people infections... nupharm

The packaging is very nice but I know 2 people who have had major problems so far. One had extreme pain and redness from enanthate and the other developped a mean infection using the winny (he called me half an hour ago.)

Be careful, the name is nupharm. People are picking it up because of the pretty packaging and hologram and it's about 40-50% cheaper than other gear.
 
I don't know any of the parties involved... It is kind of weird to have a guy that pushes another UG bad mouth a competitor... Both labs being in the Canadian market ofcourse.



-BRR
 
Big Rick Rock said:
I don't know any of the parties involved... It is kind of weird to have a guy that pushes another UG bad mouth a competitor... Both labs being in the Canadian market ofcourse.



-BRR


Oh yeah, great conspiracy theory as if most people that have been around long enough don't know about me, big fuckin secret. You're so smart, thanks for pointing it out.
 
Have you heard if the QV or Denkal in Toronto is good of fake? I have been doing the Denkal t-400 and deca for over a month with some good results, then switched to the QV entate and deca 300, sice my shots I have a very sore ass, and no appetite.
 
lunatank said:
Have you heard if the QV or Denkal in Toronto is good of fake? I have been doing the Denkal t-400 and deca for over a month with some good results, then switched to the QV entate and deca 300, sice my shots I have a very sore ass, and no appetite.


The Denkall in Toronto has been very good, seems like it is all over Canada right now with most of it flowing into Montreal/Quebec.

As far as QV, there are some fakes going around, not sure where it is coming from. If you are in Canada, Denkall is a safer bet than QV right now.
 
BigAndy69 said:
Oh yeah, great conspiracy theory as if most people that have been around long enough don't know about me, big fuckin secret. You're so smart, thanks for pointing it out.


So much hostility... Geez...



-BRR
 
Thanks. I agree with you on the Denkall. The caps are harder totwist on the vials than the QV. The guy selling the QV is saying all the Denkall is fake shit, which i beleive is a knee jerk reaction to steer his customer away from the Denkall. However the Denkall anadrol-75's are very very weak. Do you have any more info on what else is good in Canada?

I hate wasting my time using weak or contaminated products, and it is getting harder to msee what is real or fake.
 
lunatank said:
Thanks. I agree with you on the Denkall. The caps are harder totwist on the vials than the QV. The guy selling the QV is saying all the Denkall is fake shit, which i beleive is a knee jerk reaction to steer his customer away from the Denkall. However the Denkall anadrol-75's are very very weak. Do you have any more info on what else is good in Canada?

I hate wasting my time using weak or contaminated products, and it is getting harder to msee what is real or fake.


Okay this is what you stay away from in Canada:

Alphatech (not sure if they are still producing)
nupharm
Valopharm
The New Spectro
Primobolan amps
UpJohn Cyp
UpJohn Winny
Organon Yellow tops
TTokkyo
Pink Label Fina with the gunk at the bottom

British Dispensary (snake and arrow dbol) - be careful, there's someone who is pumping out exact fakes the last 2 years out of BC. Sometimes it is good sometimes he puts nothing in them.

Be very careful with any QV products and Infar Sustanon

Ayerst EQ used to be a tricky buy but quite a few boxes fell off the back of a truck about a year ago, should still be around.

Delatestryl is a great buy.

BM products used to be around Toronto in abundance but now you are lucky if you can locate 5 vials of Dubol.

I'll try to think of some more stuff, but gotta run right now :)
 
BigAndy69 said:
Okay this is what you stay away from in Canada:

Alphatech (not sure if they are still producing)
nupharm
Valopharm
The New Spectro
Primobolan amps
UpJohn Cyp
UpJohn Winny
Organon Yellow tops
TTokkyo
Pink Label Fina with the gunk at the bottom

British Dispensary (snake and arrow dbol) - be careful, there's someone who is pumping out exact fakes the last 2 years out of BC. Sometimes it is good sometimes he puts nothing in them.

Be very careful with any QV products and Infar Sustanon

Ayerst EQ used to be a tricky buy but quite a few boxes fell off the back of a truck about a year ago, should still be around.

Delatestryl is a great buy.

BM products used to be around Toronto in abundance but now you are lucky if you can locate 5 vials of Dubol.

I'll try to think of some more stuff, but gotta run right now :)

Upjohn cyp? You sure about this? :shocked: I've used quite a bit of this product with great results. It was about 7-8 months ago though. What about Upjohn Prop? Any word on it?
 
Saint V said:
Upjohn cyp? You sure about this? :shocked: I've used quite a bit of this product with great results. It was about 7-8 months ago though. What about Upjohn Prop? Any word on it?

alot of fakes floating around bro
 
Purchase some North Star Labs about 6 months ago. I have not used any of it yet. Got it directly from the maker. Just wondering if anyone has used this product and could give me some insight on the quality.
 
just go for a lab that comes str8 out of canada...i only buy from sources that get it directly from where it is produced
 
I have heard from a few good bro's more fakes are comming across the border than the legit stuff. All goes back to the same old thing. Stick with the good sources.

BigAndy69 said:
The Denkall in Toronto has been very good, seems like it is all over Canada right now with most of it flowing into Montreal/Quebec.

As far as QV, there are some fakes going around, not sure where it is coming from. If you are in Canada, Denkall is a safer bet than QV right now.
 
I've seen a few fake denkall t-400's, but those are from the MEX plants. not sure if same problem is floating in Canada on the denkall.
it's easy to spot for the MEX gear, th hologram sticker is there...it just doesn't have a rainbow effect glow when you tilt it.

whether you beleive big A or not, i think it's good when the vets on this board bring "potential" problems into view
 
About the UpJohn Cyp, it's not a very safe buy but you can still get a real product.

Same goes for Univet Test Suspension, I've seen exact fakes that give no results.

As far as Sust, Karachi's are usually a very good buy. Niles, make sure they don't look perfect (same size amps..ect)

Also, there is someone who is selling Naps for 5-10 cents a piece in bulk locally in Toronto, Very strong chance that these are fake/counterfeit. I would advise people to stay away.

Winny Zambons, someone was selling counterfeits last summer and the price was low. He was selling them as counterfeits but apparently they had some winny in it. Still not a good idea.
 
falcyou said:
whether you beleive big A or not, i think it's good when the vets on this board bring "potential" problems into view

Thanks, that's all I was trying to do.

Nupharm is not consider "competitive" on the Canadian market, beleive me. The high end packaging makes me beleive that it may be an organized group behind the product.
 
notbad said:
When you say recently how recent and why. Were they good at one time? Thanks for the reply.

10-18-2004 was the first date I saw negative reviews of NorthStar Labs products begin to creep up on the Canadian boards. There was some positive feedback right off the hop on their first batch (when they had those great debut prices). Then, after the prices went up, the negative feedback began.

They pumped out bunk for awhile, and then they went outright scammer; they pulled a disappearing act, and took some bros' money on the way out.
 
A buddy of mine was taken by them near the end too. Really weird, they kept contact with him, emailed him asking him to verify his address...pretty much spooked him, and that was it..
 
benny1970 said:
Not questioning you, but its odd, I never read anything but positive reviews of their gear. The only negative was that they either got busted or closed doors about 5 months ago...

I've seen complaints about their EQ, their fina, and their test cyp.
 
KA-BAR said:
I have heard from a few good bro's more fakes are comming across the border than the legit stuff. All goes back to the same old thing. Stick with the good sources.

Agree w/ Kabarabar.........use your head when you're dealing with someone.

If the prices are too low you've got to ask why.....




DIV

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BigAndy69 said:
About the UpJohn Cyp, it's not a very safe buy but you can still get a real product.

Same goes for Univet Test Suspension, I've seen exact fakes that give no results.

As far as Sust, Karachi's are usually a very good buy. Niles, make sure they don't look perfect (same size amps..ect)

Also, there is someone who is selling Naps for 5-10 cents a piece in bulk locally in Toronto, Very strong chance that these are fake/counterfeit. I would advise people to stay away.

Winny Zambons, someone was selling counterfeits last summer and the price was low. He was selling them as counterfeits but apparently they had some winny in it. Still not a good idea.

Jesus.........I had no idea the Canadian black market was filled with so many fakes!!! :worried:

Makes me want to deal with international sources directly from here on out.





DIV

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DIVISION said:
Jesus.........I had no idea the Canadian black market was filled with so many fakes!!! :worried:

Makes me want to deal with international sources directly from here on out.





DIV

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Our borders are some of the tightest in the world. Customs is a bitch in Canada, so smuggling Human grade gear can be a problem. Not much of it going around, that's why our UG scene is so large. We probably have the most UG labs per capita.

Lots of organized groups working to make counterfeit/fake steroids in Canada. They spend the money on packaging.

Stuff like clomid and HCG can be a really problem to find locally in Canada. Nolvadex and Arimidex which are available from Canadian pharmacies are readily available on the black market. We also have some great vet products (but many of them get counterfeited)

I've known people who have paid $10 per clomid pill in Canada and HCG if you can find it will go for $100-120 for 5,000 ius. Very few bother bringing these products in.
 
I would like to mention that there are also fake deletestryl vials going around...they have done a very good job packaging them, making sure the back of the labels are refelctive...I wouldnt buy any Human Grade gear at all...seen way too many fakes, spent way too much money on trash.
 
BigAndy69 said:
Our borders are some of the tightest in the world. Customs is a bitch in Canada, so smuggling Human grade gear can be a problem. Not much of it going around, that's why our UG scene is so large. We probably have the most UG labs per capita.

Lots of organized groups working to make counterfeit/fake steroids in Canada. They spend the money on packaging.

Stuff like clomid and HCG can be a really problem to find locally in Canada. Nolvadex and Arimidex which are available from Canadian pharmacies are readily available on the black market. We also have some great vet products (but many of them get counterfeited)

I've known people who have paid $10 per clomid pill in Canada and HCG if you can find it will go for $100-120 for 5,000 ius. Very few bother bringing these products in.

Andrew, that's some real scary shit there..... :xeye:

So not only do you kids up north had more UG labs per population that anywhere else, but also the largest per capita amount of fakes as well?

Fuck.....if I lived there I'd be paranoid as Termie....probably never leave the house and pray before every injection...:worried:

Is the free healthcare worth living there?




DIV

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DIVISION said:
Andrew, that's some real scary shit there..... :xeye:

So not only do you kids up north had more UG labs per population that anywhere else, but also the largest per capita amount of fakes as well?

Fuck.....if I lived there I'd be paranoid as Termie....probably never leave the house and pray before every injection...:worried:

Is the free healthcare worth living there?




DIV

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Lol, don't feel bad for us bro. 5 years ago, yes it was a sad state, nothing but expensive fakes and Mexican gear.

Spectro changed all that and allowed the development of a large UG scene. Today we have great UG labs to choose from and the price has dropped by half over the last 3 years
 
This is why I've stuck with the same 2 or 3 UG labs since I started juicing, that chance of screwing up cycles, just for the sake of a few $, just isnt worth it to me
 
summit labs supplies most of the gear for the vets in ontairo hard to get and pricy but seen guys who used it great results
 
allabs said:
summit labs supplies most of the gear for the vets in ontairo hard to get and pricy but seen guys who used it great results

they supply the gear for the vets in ontario do they, why is it that I am a vet myself, and know and train with many other vets from every level of competition, and no one has ever heard of it?
 
call them up 18667947387 or 9057132040 25 furbacher lane aurora ontairo l4g 6w3 it is funny how 3 vets i deal with out of woodbine race track have heard of and deal with them hummmmmmmmm
 
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allabs said:
call them up 18667947387 or 9057132040 25 furbacher lane aurora ontairo l4g 6w3 it is funny how 3 vets i deal with out of woodbine race track have heard of and deal with them hummmmmmmmm

so they are a legitimate lab that actual doctors use on animals? i was under the impression that they are a UG lab, which no doc would ever use UG on an animal or human
 
lol

On the subject of canadian UG labs, whats the concensus on LTL ? I got it very cheap but the tren is giving me flu like symptoms and serious swelling & redness... never had a problem with Quest or Orbit so I guess you get what you pay for :(
 
I got scammed by NSL,

It was really weird, he gave me al the info I would need....even his home address....but I waited and waited and didn't receive anything...it was only a small order and he was even given the green light by a number of different mods....

Oh well, what comes around, goes around...
 
LTL is very good. They had an issue with their enanthate I believe. It caused a lot of pain but last I heard the problem was fixed. I've used their finasteride, cialis, prop etc.

I own a pretty decent canadian board www.musclenexus.com which has a review forum where members post up their thoughts/experiences on labs and supp co's. There are some pretty fair reviews in there which might answer some of your questions.

Unfortunately I had to force registration as I was getting just too many browsers sucking bandwidth like crazy.
 
i know a guy running the new alphatech and claims its great shit, hes beein using it for months. i told him the whole story how the old lab went down, and he said someone is jus using the same name but different people operate it and is supposed to be good. i wouldnt trust it but who knows. as far as upjohn cyp, i get mine from my doc, so its pretty real :)
 
Musclenexus is the best place if you have any questions about CN gear, or just for info in general. A great little group with great Mods..:artist:

BDH
 
MuSuLPhReAk said:
LTL is very good. They had an issue with their enanthate I believe. It caused a lot of pain but last I heard the problem was fixed. I've used their finasteride, cialis, prop etc.

I own a pretty decent canadian board www.musclenexus.com which has a review forum where members post up their thoughts/experiences on labs and supp co's. There are some pretty fair reviews in there which might answer some of your questions.

Unfortunately I had to force registration as I was getting just too many browsers sucking bandwidth like crazy.

That's the place to go for Canadian info.

Wow, why would anyone want to use the alphatech name? lol

A little update on this whole nupharm thing; The packaging is very similar to Valopharm's, the glass vial is in a clear plastic container with a white plastic lid just like some Valopharm stuff.

I'm not sure if it's the same people, don't know at this point.
 
Us Canadians need to get together and form out own little ring...not to exclude our bro's from the US, but the fuckers at customs are such bitches....and it's getting increasingly harder to get something across as well as find Canadian suppliers.

It would make life a whole lot easier on all of us....just becuase our weather sucks, doesn't mean that we should suffer in the gym.... ;)
 
BigAndy69 said:
To all the Canadian guys, there's a local UG label going around now that is giving people infections... nupharm

The packaging is very nice but I know 2 people who have had major problems so far. One had extreme pain and redness from enanthate and the other developped a mean infection using the winny (he called me half an hour ago.)

Be careful, the name is nupharm. People are picking it up because of the pretty packaging and hologram and it's about 40-50% cheaper than other gear.
Hey BA. Thanks for the info.
 
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