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Dirty fucking illegals...

VicTusDeuS said:



Face it...you are wrong.

They are a drain on our society either way. Illegal immagration, maybe even all immagration hurts our country believe it or not. Atleast in NJ there is a law that says you cannot turn away any person who comes to a hospital for help. When paco the wetback comes to the ER with a broken arm with no money and no insurance...who picks up the bill??? We do...which is why when honest working paying americans go to the hospital they pay $3.00 for an asprin.
Just like supernav said about the car leasing...a service and a product are being provided, and someone has to pay for it. If the wetback cannot pay, the cost gets put on someone else, either the tax payer or the hospital..And yes, it is our pockets that hurt.

I worked in a hospital billing dept. a few months ago and we were trying to get the state to pick up the bill for an illegal that was jay walking. He was seriously hurt, had no money and no insurance..3 months in the hospital was close to 1million in expenses up to the tax payers to pay...

So who is hurt? We are..Maybe they wont raise taxes that much, but then programs really needed for actual citizens are cut back which hurts them...

Im sorry if your love for the mexicans clouds your ability to see the drain these non tax paying people put on society. Please do not call anyone a racist for speaking out with the truth.

what the fuck are you talking about? We are talking about immigration, not insurance.

how many people who are legal do not have insurance and the taxpayers front the bill?

FACE IT. you are looking for justification for your racist views.
 
So now Im a racist too for not wanting illegals here.


The insurance was just an example of how they could be a problem in our society. Yes there are legal citizens who cannot pay their bills but we are discussing illegals, not poor americans. Atleast in my Example if the guy was a legal citizen he would have paid some sort of taxes in his lifetime.


Look at what happens when too many people come into the country that are unaccounted for? We have problems like Sept 11th where any old terrorist and criminal can freely enter our country.

Just because I dont want thousands of 3rd world type people saturating our country doesnt make me a racist. I'm all for immagration of highly skilled people that can make a good contribution to society without messing things up.
 
anythingbutsane said:


Please back this up with some FACTS. immigration has never to my knowledge hurt ME.

The only people who are afraid of cheap labor have poor skill sets and over-inflated wages. Get a real fucking skill set and it won't hurt your feelings when paco the wetback takes your old job mowing lawns.

Face it. You are a racist hypocritically veiling your hate with the law.

I am a racist...how original

:o

Then you are an idiot and know nothing about economics. It is very simple my dear simpleton.....supply and demand. If you live in a major city or work for a large corporation you might understand
 
flex123 said:


Get with it buddy....You think the U.S. gov't doesn't allow illegals in? Our economy needs these people, the people that say there taking there jobs are the ones I'd like to see do the labor ilegals do. For your hospital example....you think that happens with just illegals?? You think every law binding American has insurance and pays taxes???


Sorry, but you are just another victim of the leftist media. If you stopped and thought about that statement for one second you would see how completely erroneous it is. VicTusDeuS is absolutely correct. Our economy is tremendously hurt by all un- skilled labor in this country. They increase the supply of labor so much that it far outstrips demand. That hurts everyone. Remember, immigrants come in all shapes and sizes. They can be beaner or brain surgeons. The only thing immigration helps is corporate America. Whether it's a local farmer or fucking Intel, they are the ones who benefit.
 
flex123 said:


Get with it buddy....You think the U.S. gov't doesn't allow illegals in? Our economy needs these people, the people that say there taking there jobs are the ones I'd like to see do the labor ilegals do. For your hospital example....you think that happens with just illegals?? You think every law binding American has insurance and pays taxes???

Man you liberals are so fucking brainwashed its amazing. We dont need illegal immigrants. If we did actually need more unskilled labor then we would just let in more immigrants LEGALLY. There is absolutely no need for them in this country. They waste our resources and are a burden on our economy.
 
ariolanine said:


I am a racist...how original

:o

Then you are an idiot and know nothing about economics. It is very simple my dear simpleton.....supply and demand. If you live in a major city or work for a large corporation you might understand

So.... by keeping the supply of cheap labor low, this benefits who other than the unskilled white man?

Cheap labor means lower prices on a myriad of services. Mostly related to construction and/or manual labor.
 
anythingbutsane said:


So.... by keeping the supply of cheap labor low, this benefits who other than the unskilled white man?

Cheap labor means lower prices on a myriad of services. Mostly related to construction and/or manual labor.

When you say "unskilled white man" do you mean "unskilled American citizen"? In case you didnt know not everyone in America is white. Why not put the unskilled Americans before the unskilled illegal immigrants?
 
anythingbutsane said:


So.... by keeping the supply of cheap labor low, this benefits who other than the unskilled white man?

Cheap labor means lower prices on a myriad of services. Mostly related to construction and/or manual labor.

It may seem like a good idea, but most workers comp and other worker insurance held by employers will not cover illegal aliens without proper papers. So then you have Mr. Wetback suing Contractor Joe for 1 million dollars because he slipped and fell under his lawnmower while cutting your lawn.

The govt does allow certain amounts of people here on a temporary seasonal visa every year to do the cheap labor you speak of. It is then all legal and our Govt gets the proper taxes from these people while still having the benefit of cheap labor. It is our govt that decides how many are needed and gives these temp. visas out. Anything more than the given amount is not needed. That means all the illegals shouldnt be here and they are not needed. If they were so desperatly needed, then we would hand out more of these work type seasonal visas.


We need some sharp shooters at the border..
 
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