Dim

[Lifterforlife]

thought I would post this....I have long now stopped taking DIM as I found studies that it is actually a potent androgen antagonist, and this seems to be exactly the opposite of what we want.

I got this information from a post by Dr. Chrisler, a leading authority on anti aging. Thought it may be useful to post it.

I have treated at least 100 guys with DIM--including Indolplex--and
with ALL follow-up labs (including 24 hour urine panels for the
significant estrogen metabolites) and I have never seen a result
anywhere near that claimed by this individual. In fact, in most
cases, DIM actually increases Total Estrogens.

The correct strategy is to first employ an aromatase inhibitor (AI)
to control Total Estrogens, then fine tune the ratios of the
metabolites using DIM. Actually, at this time, it looks as though I-3-
C (the parent compound) is vastly superior to DIM in its positive
benefits.

Most of the clams made by the inventor of Indolplex have been shown
to be...shall we say...more proprietray than factual.

 

[thelion2005]

thought I would post this....I have long now stopped taking DIM as I found studies that it is actually a potent androgen antagonist, and this seems to be exactly the opposite of what we want.

I got this information from a post by Dr. Chrisler, a leading authority on anti aging. Thought it may be useful to post it.

I have treated at least 100 guys with DIM--including Indolplex--and
with ALL follow-up labs (including 24 hour urine panels for the
significant estrogen metabolites) and I have never seen a result
anywhere near that claimed by this individual. In fact, in most
cases, DIM actually increases Total Estrogens.

The correct strategy is to first employ an aromatase inhibitor (AI)
to control Total Estrogens, then fine tune the ratios of the
metabolites using DIM. Actually, at this time, it looks as though I-3-
C (the parent compound) is vastly superior to DIM in its positive
benefits.

Most of the clams made by the inventor of Indolplex have been shown
to be...shall we say...more proprietray than factual.

Good post.

And there is probably just as sound arguement to the opposite. I've been takingit regularly and my esto panels keep falling. But, that might have been the result of something else.

I look at all these supplements as "food" and really don't look for miracles.

In my experience .... the only items that really move the needle are drugs. And you must be very careful and conservative with dosages.