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boscoe wilson

boscoe wilson

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I'm starting to get bummed...I just finished a 6wk keto diet with great results, but now it is time for change. I lift 3x/wk and do approx 4-6 hours of fat-burning cardio only per wk.

Wt - 146
ht - 54' 1/2
bf % 27

I am trying to build some serious mass, but at 28% I really have to watch it! I will say that carbs are my worst enemy, but I don't really know how many to take in to compensate for the cardio. I have made the necessary calculations to make sure that I am consistantly burning fat only during my cardio workout. Any advice will be appreciated.
 
To build mass, I would SERIOUSLY limit the amount of cardio. That sounds like way too much cardio to build muscle. While I don't know what 'calculations' you are doing - I don't think it is ever possible to be sure you are only burning fat. While building mass, I would lean towards HIIT cardio rather than steady state cardio.

Also, while I am not sure, I don't think a Keto diet is that great for building mass. But like I said, I am not sure. :) To build mass, I think your body needs as many energy sources as it can get. And Keto diets seriously limit the amount of carbs - right? Which in turn should seriously limit your amount of calories - right? (just clarifying here, not questioning you) Under this assumption, in a calorie deprived state, it will be next to impossible to ADD muscle, no matter how much protein you are taking in.
 
Let me clarify....the Keto I finished last week...was trying to lose some fat and suceeded...now I am wanting to focus more on mass, but also make sure I am not gaining fat along with it. Hope that makes more sense...
 
also, what type of cardio would you recommend I do in place of this? I have been walking on a treadmill for an hour everyday. Now that I am focussed on mass what is a safe amount/type for me to stick with?
 
cool.. Well, like I said, I'm ready to convert my short term goals from fatloss to serious muscle gain. what type of cardio should I do for that 20min?
 
GOT IT. Now I understand. Gotta talk slow for us blondes. :)

I'd do HIIT a couple times. Maybe HIIT 2x and moderate-intense cardio 2x for about 30 min? HIIT is the best to keep your metabolism going, keep your heart healthy but not catabolize muscle.

HIIT - 5 min warm up, 20 min alternating light-moderate with hard-intense (maybe 1 min hard/1 min easy), 5 min cool down. Can do alternating walking/running or jogging/sprinting, but can do it on any machine.

"Regular" cardio can be done with anything. I would stick with the machines that make you work the most (i.e., not the recumbent bike). I am always partial towards the StepMill, Precor Elliptical, and a Treadmill.
 
Daisy,

I just checked out the HIIT page from muscle media and it sounds great! One question though, it says for beginners to start out only doing 4 min the first week. I don't think it is necessary for me to start so low, do you?
 
No, I wouldn't classify you as a true 'beginner'. But you still need to pay attention to your body because it is a new exercise to you. :)

The first couple times you do HIIT, you won't do it right anyway. ;) It will take a few times to find your true high and low levels - a trial and error process. You'll end up going too hard or too easy, at first, so pay attention and adjust the work load accordingly. Eventually, you'll find the level you work the hardest and also your recovery zone.

Also, treat HIIT as you would a weight workout. Give your body 48 hours in between sessions to recover.

I think you'll find HIIT goes by VERY fast and it actually more 'fun' than steady state cardio. I put some good music in my MP3 player and rock out. lol
 
I agree with Daisy-- whenever I want to put on weight (which I'm doing not) I cut back on the cardio. For me I cut it down to just 15-20 minute easy cool down cardio post lift. Just curious as to how you've changed your diet. Are your cals up? Your carbs?
 
I haven't yet...I'm still searching for the perfect diet! I was on a 20-30g carb diet. Definately not going to work for building mass, but I just don't know what my carb intake should be.
 
Daisy, I have to beg to differ on the recumbant bike comment...on the hill setting at a high level, it makes you work plenty! I've had sweat rolling off my arms on that thing.
 
wend said:
Daisy, I have to beg to differ on the recumbant bike comment...on the hill setting at a high level, it makes you work plenty! I've had sweat rolling off my arms on that thing.
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PERSONALLY, I agree. It's just that few people push themselves while on it. Since it supports your weight, you have to pay A LOT more attention to what you are doing. It becomes too easy to "slack off". Especially if you are a beginner or are just finding your limits.
 
Raina said:
I'm spying on you...... ;)
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I always knew you were a shady girl.....

Since you are spying on me, you know my slack ass is procrastinating going to the gym..... AGAIN! lol

PS - nice new avabuttavar hot stuff....
 
It's called an Assatar Daisy. This one is old I just felt like switching. It's the same backside anyhow. lol
 
Daisy, I know what you mean by folks slacking off on the bike...though I see them do that on the elliptical trainer and the stairclimber, too...one chick was chatting on her cell phone the other day, and there was a guy hanging all over the climber, just barely pushing the steps down.

I really don't know what they expect to accomplish with so little effort.
 
bosco - I ran some #s for you your BMR is 1400 cal

- to bulk - you should be around 1500 cal/day
Protein 219g
Carbs - 100g
Fat - 25g

but gaining lean mass - that is hard, so you can try to do this on your workout days and cut the calories on your rest/cardio days to about 1200 or so.
 
total fat - I am a big fan of UDO oil - for boys and girls -:) great source of fat - tons of it in one tbsp -:) I would take one in PM for sure. The rest - you know the drill, nuts, walnuts, some fat from steak if you eat red meat. I stay aways from milk fats, etc.. but some people suggest using whole milk for shakes to get the right fat.

now, be aware - you will gain some fat with this - no doubt. I personally, do not know how to gain musle without getting fat. The only one who does - is Physical Girl -:)
 
boscoe - yes, I am a smartass. She does knows her shit and has a great body, but damn, some of thecomments.. -:)
 
smb_69 said:
boscoe - yes, I am a smartass. She does knows her shit and has a great body, but damn, some of thecomments.. -:)
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FYI ..... "She" is not who "she" presented "herself" to be and will probably not be returning.
 
Do you really think "she" was a "he" and if so, why do men do that? I mean, its not like he was trying to hit on anyone. I don't get it...My husband and I share this account incase there are any questions as to why I'm asking questions about anadrol and other things on the anabolic board! just thought I'd clear that up!
 
All I know is that "she" wasn't really who she presented herself to be - she was, in fact, a male.

I think people mostly do it to stir things up. Not necessarily to hit on women, but to cause trouble. Whatever!
 
Daisy_Girl said:
All I know is that "she" wasn't really who she presented herself to be - she was, in fact, a male.

I think people mostly do it to stir things up. Not necessarily to hit on women, but to cause trouble. Whatever!
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whatever is right -:) but some guys need to get a f* life -:)
 
man, the only way I can even stay focused on any cardio equipment is to interval train.

Otherwise, here come the M&M's ;)
 
I tried it for the first time yesterday and loved it! I don't know if I could ever go back to boring old low intens. full time! That has got to be the most monontonous crap ever.
 
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