Diet gurus need help

[OMEGA]

I am up to 265 now, at 15 %

I need to lose about 20 pounds to get to my goal.

my training rgimen is a s follows

day 1
back- bis- hams- calves

day 2
running 3 miles

day 3
chest-delts -tris- abs quads

day 4
running 3 miles

this is what I am sticking too for now.

I train first thing in the AM

how does this diet look?

Meals.


1- oatmeal with banana

workout

2 - ten egg whites-broccolli

3- can of tuna- greens and balsamic vinigar, half cup carrot juice

4- ten egg whites- brocolli

5- can of tuna- greens and balsamic vinigar, half cup carrot juice

please assist =)

 

[prophet]

bases on your size i am going to say not enough calories even though you want to lose 20 lbs

 

[OMEGA]

let me calculate calories hold on

 

[prophet]

let me calculate calories hold on

yeah its hard to guess guess by what you have there.

have you tried the ketogenic diet? without that oatmeal and banana you are close to it... you can carb up on weekends

 

[anthrax]

where are EFAs (essential fatty acids) ?

you really need omega 3s

don't forget your flax seed/fish oil

carrot juice is not what I would have chosen: carrots are relatively high on the GI scale and with the juice you don't take enough fiber

and add a multivitamin/multi mineral

 

[OMEGA]

shit your right its 1500 kcal,

can you help?

what would be the minimum kcal?

 

[OMEGA]

where are EFAs (essential fatty acids) ?

you really need omega 3s

don't forget your flax seed/fish oil

carrot juice is not what I would have chosen: carrots are relatively high on the GI scale and with the juice you don't take enough fiber

and add a multivitamin/multi mineral

olive oil is with the egg whites

add the carrot juice is relatively low in carbs, but I do understand the gi thing.

an 8 ounce cup of oddwalla carrot juice has 15 grams of carbs

 

[anthrax]

shit your right its 1500 kcal,

can you help?

what would be the minimum kcal?

the minimum is 1.5g protein/kg
= 0.75g prot/pound

 

[anthrax]

olive oil is with the egg whites

add the carrot juice is relatively low in carbs, but I do understand the gi thing.

an 8 ounce cup of oddwalla carrot juice has 15 grams of carbs

olive oiul = mono unsaturated fatty acids
but you need poly-unsaturated F.A (omega 3s and 6s)

you'd better take 1/3 olive oil and 2/3 flax seed or fish oil

and green veggies have far less carbs than carrots

 

[OMEGA]

yeah its hard to guess guess by what you have there.

have you tried the ketogenic diet? without that oatmeal and banana you are close to it... you can carb up on weekends

have you???

if so how does it feel
and how fast are the results?,

how can you train?

 

[Mr.X]

I am up to 265 now, at 15 %
your BMR is about 3200, so you would need to be at 3000 cal. to lose weight and not starve

I need to lose about 20 pounds to get to my goal.

my training rgimen is a s follows

day 1
back- bis- hams- calves

day 2
running 3 miles

day 3
chest-delts -tris- abs quads

day 4
running 3 miles

this is what I am sticking too for now.

I train first thing in the AM
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try this:
day 1
chest, tri's, delts , abs
20 min post workout cardio

day 2
quads, hams, calfs, abs
20min post-workout cardio

day 3
back, bi's, traps, abs
20min post workout cardio

day 4
45min cardio
day 5
45min cardio
day 6/d7
rest


how does this diet look?

Meals.


1- oatmeal with banana
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add 2 scoops of protein to that mix

workout

2 - ten egg whites + 1 baked potatoe (yam or sweet)-broccolli
**************
post workout, drink a shake, 50g protein, 50g carbs...go for dextrose or malt. protein should be whey......eat meal #2) 1 hour post the workout shake

3- can of tuna- greens and balsamic vinigar, half cup carrot juice
**************
drop the carrot juice, add 2 tbsp. canola oil or flaxseed oil

4- ten egg whites- brocolli
*******************
add 2 tbsp. canola oil or flaxseed oil

5- can of tuna- greens and balsamic vinigar, half cup carrot juice
drop the carrot juice, add 2tbsp. of all natural peanut butter

before bed, 20g protein w/ 15g psyllium husk fiber

Mr.X

 

[OMEGA]

Jesus

Mr. X

thankyou very much, =)

 

[OMEGA]

Re: Re: Diet gurus need help

1- oatmeal with banana
****************
add 2 scoops of protein to that mix

workout

2 - ten egg whites + 1 baked potatoe (yam or sweet)-broccolli
**************
post workout, drink a shake, 50g protein, 50g carbs...go for dextrose or malt. protein should be whey......eat meal #2) 1 hour post the workout shake

3- can of tuna- greens and balsamic vinigar, half cup carrot juice
**************
drop the carrot juice, add 2 tbsp. canola oil or flaxseed oil

4- ten egg whites- brocolli
*******************
add 2 tbsp. canola oil or flaxseed oil

5- can of tuna- greens and balsamic vinigar, half cup carrot juice
drop the carrot juice, add 2tbsp. of all natural peanut butter

before bed, 20g protein w/ 15g psyllium husk fiber

Mr.X [/B][/QUOTE]




MRX on this diet
how bad would it be to incorparate all meal into 3 or 4 instead of 5 or 6????

 

[Mr.X]

Re: Re: Re: Diet gurus need help

MRX on this diet
how bad would it be to incorparate all meal into 3 or 4 instead of 5 or 6???? [/B]

I wouldn't say it would be "bad" per-se. But you will get more benefit by splitting the meals up into 5-6; thus, allowing for a higher metabolic rate. The diet has nothing to do w/ meal frequency, it's the thyroid that you should worry about.

Mr.X

 

[OMEGA]

okay the diet is modified now


meal 1) oat meal + banana + 20 grams of glutamine peptides
kcal 300

WORKOUT

meal 2) carrot and orange juice + 20 grams of glutamine peptides
kcal 300

meal 3) 2 cans of tuna + 3 tablespoons of pesto olive oil + greens
kcal 500

meal 4) 2 cans of tuna + 3 tablespoons of pesto olive oil + greens
kcal 500

meal 5) steak or chic + greens + 3 tablespoons of pesto olive oil
kcal 500

meal 6) 10 egg whites, 2 yolks + 3 tablespoons of pesto olive oil
kcal 500

 

[Mr.X]

meal 1) oat meal + banana + 20 grams of glutamine peptides
kcal 300
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glutamine peptides? I am talking about 20-40g of WHEY protein NOT glutamine

WORKOUT

meal 2) carrot and orange juice + 20 grams of glutamine peptides
kcal 300
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again......drop the carrot/orange juice
***post workout, drink a shake, 50g protein, 50g carbs...go for dextrose or malt. protein should be whey......eat meal

meal 3) 2 cans of tuna + 3 tablespoons of pesto olive oil + greens
kcal 500

meal 4) 2 cans of tuna + 3 tablespoons of pesto olive oil + greens
kcal 500

meal 5) steak or chic + greens + 3 tablespoons of pesto olive oil
kcal 500

meal 6) 10 egg whites, 2 yolks + 3 tablespoons of pesto olive oil
kcal 500

beyond the first few meals, the rest looks good....you really need to drop juice, the fructose is probably the worst sugar when relating to fat-loss

Mr.X

 

[OMEGA]

okay, okay I get the point with the fructose.

I just liked the idea that both fructose and galactose are the only sugars that bypass the cellullar membrane and are converted directly into energy with out any insulin response whatsoever.

this is handy post workout when often enegy level drop

but I see what your saying in how this particular diet should utilize another form of carb

as for glutamine peptides.................

try this, but you gotta mix it with something that tastes good for it tastes like crap, but damn is it effective.....

http://www.myvitanet.com/gforpep81ser.html

this product is close to revolutionary



but I have discovered something better ............just wait =)

 

[OMEGA]

Glutamine Peptides breakdown

Supplement Facts

Serving Size 14g

Amount per Serving

Calories 56 Calories from Fat 6

Total Fat .7g

Saturated Fat 0g

Cholesterol 0mg

Sodium 180mg

Potassium 25mg

Total Carbohydrates 1g

Dietary Fiber 0g

* Sugars 0g

Protein 11g

 

[Mr.X]

Re: Glutamine Peptides breakdown

Supplement Facts

Serving Size 14g

Amount per Serving

Calories 56 Calories from Fat 6

Total Fat .7g

Saturated Fat 0g

Cholesterol 0mg

Sodium 180mg

Potassium 25mg

Total Carbohydrates 1g

Dietary Fiber 0g

* Sugars 0g

Protein 11g

Drop the glutamine peptides and get some whey protein, you'll see much better results.

Mr.X

 

[Mr.X]

okay, okay I get the point with the fructose.

I just liked the idea that both fructose and galactose are the only sugars that bypass the cellullar membrane and are converted directly into energy with out any insulin response whatsoever.
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that's a false statement, fructose does bypass some cellular membrane, but goes to the liver receptors and gets stored there preventing catabolic hormones, such as glucagon from being released.


Glutamine peptides are just a spin-off from usual whey protein. Since you have it, I guess you could take it, but if you have to purchase it I would definitely go w/ whey.

Mr.X

 

[OMEGA]

Re: Re: Glutamine Peptides breakdown

Drop the glutamine peptides and get some whey protein, you'll see much better results.

Mr.X

lol

thanks

 

[OMEGA]

[/B][/QUOTE]

Glutamine peptides are just a spin-off from usual whey protein. Since you have it, I guess you could take it, but if you have to purchase it I would definitely go w/ whey.

Mr.X [/B][/QUOTE]


not these ones http://www.myvitanet.com/gforpep81ser.html

I do understand what you are saying but these actually have both in them........protien, and trtaditional glutamine.
it is a naturally holistic supplement, a whole food actually,

not divided like highly hydrolized glutamine on the market, or refined protien.

[/B][/QUOTE]

that's a false statement, fructose does bypass some cellular membrane, but goes to the liver receptors and gets stored there preventing catabolic hormones, such as glucagon from being released. Mr.X [/B][/QUOTE]


so are you saying that fructose is anticatabolic?

would it then not be ideal to supplement your diet Pre, and Post workout with these freindly anti catabolic carbs?

 

[Mr.X]

Glutamine peptides are just a spin-off from usual whey protein. Since you have it, I guess you could take it, but if you have to purchase it I would definitely go w/ whey.

Mr.X [/B][/QUOTE]


not these ones http://www.myvitanet.com/gforpep81ser.html

I do understand what you are saying but these actually have both in them........protien, and trtaditional glutamine.
it is a naturally holistic supplement, a whole food actually,
*******************
where do you think they get glutamine? it's extracted from cheap protein, all they did w/ this "magic" supplement is get some low-quality glutamine and stick it in the mix; trust me there are many companies out there that attempt such feats

not divided like highly hydrolized glutamine on the market, or refined protien.
*************
hahahaha, I hope they provide results of tests they conduct on the product: I DOUBT IT


--that's a false statement, fructose does bypass some cellular membrane, but goes to the liver receptors and gets stored there preventing catabolic hormones, such as glucagon from being released. Mr.X [/B][/QUOTE]


so are you saying that fructose is anticatabolic?

would it then not be ideal to supplement your diet Pre, and Post workout with these freindly anti catabolic carbs?

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No! I'm saying it's ANTI-FAT-LOSS, glucagon is the catabolic hormone that is released from the liver during Ketosis, it helps break down stored fat and let the body convert it to energy--Ketones, going from 9cal/g fat to 7cal/ketone. In other words, it's more catabolic then anti-catabolic if you look at it that way.

Mr.X

 

[OMEGA]

not divided like highly hydrolized glutamine on the market, or refined protien.
*************
hahahaha, I hope they provide results of tests they conduct on the product: I DOUBT IT


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yup =)

I got results

 

[Mr.X]

not divided like highly hydrolized glutamine on the market, or refined protien.
*************
hahahaha, I hope they provide results of tests they conduct on the product: I DOUBT IT


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yup =)

I got results

Post them and then get results of ANY other glutamine brand and POST BOTH of the results. I bet the price will be cheaper and they will be the same basic product.

Mr.X

 

[OMEGA]

would you try a test batch if I sent you one?

it only like 15 servings worth buts its enough to get the jist.........

 

[Mr.X]

would you try a test batch if I sent you one?

it only like 15 servings worth buts its enough to get the jist.........

Hmmm, try a batch...I guess I could, as long as you don't put rat poison in it, then I'm all game.

Do you work for the company? from what I read, I'm pretty sure you do....

Mr.X

 

[OMEGA]

Hmmm, try a batch...I guess I could, as long as you don't put rat poison in it, then I'm all game.

Do you work for the company? from what I read, I'm pretty sure you do....

Mr.X

No I am the President,

We are just budding as a company of three, but we will be
a force to reckon with

no rat poison in the product, just pure goodness
I am getting a test batch 5 working days from tommorrow,
I 'll get back to you then.

take care

OMEGA

 

[Mr.X]

No I am the President,

We are just budding as a company of three, but we will be
a force to reckon with

no rat poison in the product, just pure goodness
I am getting a test batch 5 working days from tommorrow,
I 'll get back to you then.

take care

OMEGA

Email me, we'll talk in private:
[email protected]

Mr.X