diet for diabetics.

[*ebony*]

i'm trying to help out a sweet lady get in shape. i beleive i can help her with a suitable workout routine but i'm not sure about her diet.

she has type 2 diabetes. about 5'5. 46 years old. 175 pounds and mother of 5. she's on meds, don't know which ones exactly. she plans to control her diabetes with diet and exercise and get off medication.

i realize diet plans for diabetic are now individualized and are based on each person's ability to tolerate and maintain good blood sugar control, but i was wondering if any of you have ever worked with a diabetic or if you are informed on the subject, i'd appreciate you opinions.

i found the fallowing ratios for a diabetics from a google search. really?
* 50% to 55% carbs
* 30% fat
* 10% to 15% protein


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[Tami Bellon]

I had a client with type II and high bp. Got her free from both with training and diet for 12 weeks. She went from 203 lbs to 176 lbs. She wanted it and that's all she wrote. Just needed someone to give her the tools to make it happen.

Basically - she needs to get ALL sugar out of her house. Low carb diet, weight training and cardio 3x a week.

If you have any specific questions, let me know!

 

[Tami Bellon]

i found the fallowing ratios for a diabetics from a google search. really?
* 50% to 55% carbs
* 30% fat
* 10% to 15% protein


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Amazing, isn't it? These people shouldn't even THINK about this carb intake! And what's up with the "no protein"?

This is the problem with our healthcare industry. Keep 'em sick and they have NO CHOICE but to keep coming back. PATHETIC!

Get her off carbs except her one cheat day, 40% protein - she'll pull out of it.

 

[Tatyana]

It is generally accepted that type II diabetes is a lifestyle disease.

I remember a very interesting story one of the endo consultants told me.

He has a woman not far off the age of your friend who had type II diabetes and she was starting to have eye involvement, she was going blind more or less, so he had to inform the DMV (department of motor vehicles) and have her license revoked.

This woman wasn't one to not be mobile, so she got a bike and started cycling everywhere.

At her next appointment, her diabetic retinopathy had entirely reversed, in fact, she was in a much better state altogether and he reduced her meds.

He knew it was the exercise that had done it, he also knew she wouldn't exercise unless she HAD too, and had the very difficult decision of whether or not to reverse the medical restriction on her license.

Oh, medical ethics, it isn't always as easy as we like to think that it is.

He did postpone informing the DMV as far as I am aware.

 

[Thandie]

I had a client with type II and high bp. Got her free from both with training and diet for 12 weeks. She went from 203 lbs to 176 lbs. She wanted it and that's all she wrote. Just needed someone to give her the tools to make it happen.

Basically - she needs to get ALL sugar out of her house. Low carb diet, weight training and cardio 3x a week.

If you have any specific questions, let me know!

That's correct! and lots of vegetables; organic would be best.

E, did I see no protein on that chart? Not a good idea..

 

[future]

I'd think a diet of 60% proteins, 30% fats and 10% carbs would work very well.

 

[*ebony*]

thanks for the feedback. i was very perplexed at some of the info on the net.

here's the meal plan Thandie usually recommends.

#1 3 egg whites(PERSONALLY I EAT ALL MY EGGS WHOLE) and 1/3 cup of oatmeal.
#2 protein shake
#3 Chicken or turkey or fish or tuna fish with a salad and 1/2 cup of brown rice or quinoa or couscous.
#4 Same as 3, but with vegetables. You can also have yams.
#5 Fish and vegetables.


not exactly low carb, but good carbs. should the carbs be reduced?

 

[Thandie]

thanks for the feedback. i was very perplexed at some of the info on the net.

here's the meal plan Thandie usually recommends.

#1 3 egg whites(PERSONALLY I EAT ALL MY EGGS WHOLE) and 1/3 cup of oatmeal.
#2 protein shake
#3 Chicken or turkey or fish or tuna fish with a salad and 1/2 cup of brown rice or quinoa or couscous.
#4 Same as 3, but with vegetables. You can also have yams.
#5 Fish and vegetables.


not exactly low carb, but good carbs. should the carbs be reduced?

How much carbs is she having? She doesn't have to go very low on carbs, just needs to have complex carbs. I always recommend whole foods, however the amount varies. and rarely is low carbs as we need carbs for our organism to function properly. I like to keep grains and fibers, such as oats, rice and yams for the early part of the day and green leafy vegetables for late afternoon and evenings.

The egg whites is if you want to reduce the fat intake. Egg yolk are a great source of fat, but if I'm getting the amount of fats I need, that's the first thing I cut out.

 

[*ebony*]

How much carbs is she having? She doesn't have to go very low on carbs, just needs to have complex carbs. I always recommend whole foods, however the amount varies. and rarely is low carbs as we need carbs for our organism to function properly. I like to keep grains and fibers, such as oats, rice and yams for the early part of the day and green leafy vegetables for late afternoon and evenings.

The egg whites is if you want to reduce the fat intake. Egg yolk are a great source of fat, but if I'm getting the amount of fats I need, that's the first thing I cut out.

from what she told me and what i observed her diet about 40-45% carbs, 30-35% fats, 20-30% protein. i tried to explain to the best of my knowledge how her body used what she was eating, and that she might have better results with a different diet, thus the reason for this thread. she wants to gradually decrease the amount of meds she's taking.

this is a good stable diet then(give or take some of those carbs)? no need for cheat meals/days?

 

[SpyWizard]

It is generally accepted that type II diabetes is a lifestyle disease.

I remember a very interesting story one of the endo consultants told me.

He has a woman not far off the age of your friend who had type II diabetes and she was starting to have eye involvement, she was going blind more or less, so he had to inform the DMV (department of motor vehicles) and have her license revoked.

This woman wasn't one to not be mobile, so she got a bike and started cycling everywhere.

At her next appointment, her diabetic retinopathy had entirely reversed, in fact, she was in a much better state altogether and he reduced her meds.

He knew it was the exercise that had done it, he also knew she wouldn't exercise unless she HAD too, and had the very difficult decision of whether or not to reverse the medical restriction on her license.

Oh, medical ethics, it isn't always as easy as we like to think that it is.

He did postpone informing the DMV as far as I am aware.

i too have a client like this but she has Parkinson disease as well, so for her it's more about keeping mobility and flexation, which I have done for her, however she has got to stay away from ben and Jerry's..

 

[*ebony*]

i too have a client like this but she has Parkinson disease as well, so for her it's more about keeping mobility and flexation, which I have done for her, however she has got to stay away from ben and Jerry's..

yummmmmmm



oh she doesn't smoke. her religion prohibits her from drinking. no drugs except the ones prescribed to her. nothing to worry about except her diet.

 

[Tami Bellon]

How much carbs is she having? She doesn't have to go very low on carbs, just needs to have complex carbs. I always recommend whole foods, however the amount varies. and rarely is low carbs as we need carbs for our organism to function properly. I like to keep grains and fibers, such as oats, rice and yams for the early part of the day and green leafy vegetables for late afternoon and evenings.

The egg whites is if you want to reduce the fat intake. Egg yolk are a great source of fat, but if I'm getting the amount of fats I need, that's the first thing I cut out.

Agree! Green veggies after say.....5 pm. The amounts in that diet should be adjusted to her weight. That doesn't look like much food if the person is 200 lbs. So amounts and macros need to be adjusted for her.

 

[Thandie]

from what she told me and what i observed her diet about 40-45% carbs, 30-35% fats, 20-30% protein. i tried to explain to the best of my knowledge how her body used what she was eating, and that she might have better results with a different diet, thus the reason for this thread. she wants to gradually decrease the amount of meds she's taking.

this is a good stable diet then(give or take some of those carbs)? no need for cheat meals/days?

Yes, a cheat meal is always beneficial, However nothing with simple sugars.

 

[*ebony*]

thank you for your feedback guys. helped a lot