Have done tren/deca, tren/eq, tren/deca/winny, tren/deca,eq. The one thing that i have found is that tren changes you like no other will. Its turns you into a machine, an abomination. While your buddies may do all the others it is clear that you are on something........different. Veins break through the surface even at higher bodyfat percentages. Aggression is ridiculous. This is the one they refer to when people imagine roid rage. It can make you emotional at times. You'll look the best you ever have in your life.....but yet may still be pissed off..LOL