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Nah, just had my children taken from me (my family this time. I haven't even seen 3 of my children for over 6 months, the oldest for over a year) and given right back to their abuser....AGAIN. Sorta screws with a mother's head ya know?
And here is a WONDERFUL read for all the pickleheads on elite. I gots nuthin but love fer yaz!
Sick Joke or Sick Reality?
Below the Belt: A Biweekly Column by NOW President Kim Gandy
May 17, 2007
I know you think I'm talking about "Opie and Anthony," recently suspended from their radio talk gig for "joking" with a guest, "Homeless Charlie" who said he wanted to rape Condoleezza Rice and Laura Bush. The hosts encouraged these horrifying remarks -- in fact they laughed and imagined "the horror" on Rice's face as she is held down and punched in the face.
No, I'm talking about another sick reality. Let me ask you first: Would you trust a guy who wrote that rape victims "gain pleasure from being beaten, bound, and otherwise made to suffer" as "the price they are willing to pay for gaining the gratification of receiving the sperm?" A guy who published his belief that "the child who has suffered bona fide abuse may very well have enjoyed the experience..."? A guy who claimed that incest is not harmful, (citing Shakespeare) only "thinking makes it so"?
And I know I don't even have to ask this -- but would you trust this guy with your kids?
I thought not. Which leads me to ponder how on earth the "theory" this guy thought up has found its way into court rooms across the country, and is currently influencing child custody decisions, especially those involving child abuse. That's right, this guy, a psychiatrist named Richard Gardner -- who, by the way, also asserted that adult-child sex is normal AND beneficial for both parties as well as for the survival of the human race -- is being given credence in cases involving the fate of children and families.
And believe it or not, it seems that nine state governors have jumped on Gardner's pro-pedophilia bandwagon. In Florida, Indiana, Connecticut, Kentucky, Nebraska, Iowa, Maine, and Nevada, there is now reportedly a whole day officially dedicated to raising "awareness" about Gardner's theory called Parental Alienation Syndrome, in which the very reports of abuse by a child against a father are themselves evidence that the child is being brainwashed by the mother (and if the child is angry at the father, or doesn't want to visit, that's even more evidence) and the only "cure" for this syndrome is to force the child to live with the abuser and deny ANY contact with the protective mother, who has no history of abuse.
C'mon, you're thinking, what judge would buy this crock? Doesn't it matter if the abuse really happened? Apparently not.
Although it may sound like it, this is no sick joke. It's a sad, sick reality. And anyone who cares even a little about children's human rights and the epidemic of family violence should take note and take action.
Let's start with the lowdown on "parental alienation syndrome" (PAS), which is also being called "parental alienation." Like I said, Richard Gardner thought it up. The late Dr. Gardner was a child psychiatrist who liked to tell people he was a full professor at Columbia University's College of Physicians and Surgeons. Actually, he was an unpaid volunteer. But hey -- professor, volunteer; child sexual abuse, fun adult-child sex -- hey, what's the difference? If you're Richard Gardner, not much.
But I digress. While Gardner was volunteering at Columbia in the 1980s, he formed some opinions and made some personal observations that, together, he decided to call "parental alienation syndrome." He defined PAS as a condition arising from one parent's (mostly mothers, he said) "programming" of the child to wage an unreasonable "campaign of denigration against" the other parent (most of the time, the father, according to Gardner). PAS, he said, arises most often during child custody disputes, usually involves false allegations of child sexual abuse as part of the programmer parent's attempt to turn the child against the other parent, and causes "enormous grief" in the alienated parent.
Gardner's diagnostic criteria included finding out from the child the parent's "frequency of programming thoughts" and the parent's "success in manipulating the legal system to enhance the programming." The ridiculousness of these criteria goes without saying. Gardner was insistent that the "programming parent" is the mother, and that the alienated parent is the father. He opined that treatment involve forcing the mother to stop expressing negative views about the father and granting custody of the child to him and denying any visitation to her. No part of the PAS diagnostic process involves examining the father's psychiatric history or conduct, or even inquiring whether he had actually engaged in abuse.
According to an article by Dr. Paul J. Fink, past president of the American Psychiatric Association, and Hon. Sol Gothard, retired judge and former faculty member for the National Council of Juvenile and Family Court Judges:
"Parental Alienation Syndrome has been used nationwide by batterers as a courtroom tactic to silence abused children by attempting to discredit their disclosures of abuse. This theory is not recognized as valid by the American Psychological Association, the American Psychiatric Association, or the American Medical Association. Parental Alienation Syndrome is not accepted as a psychiatric diagnosis, and has been rejected by the mainstream psychological community. Parental Alienation Syndrome is junk science; there is no valid research or empirical data to support this unproven theory."
To date, none of the studies necessary to judge the validity of Gardner's so-called syndrome have been conducted. In 2006, the Children's Legal Rights Journal (a multi-disciplinary journal published in conjunction with the American Bar Association Center on Children and the Law, the National Association of Counsel for Children, and the Loyola University School of Law) and the National Council of Juvenile and Family Court Judges each published analyses finding no scientific or legal basis for the use of PAS.
And yet, PAS keeps making appearances in courts across the country, subverting and perverting the pursuit of justice one family at a time. According to the Children's Legal Rights Journal, a North Carolina court incarcerated a teenage girl who refused to visit her father, and a New Jersey court suspended a mother's contact with her two children, granting sole custody to the father despite "'foreseeable emotional upset and possible trauma'" to the children (Hoult, 1). In Pennsylvania, a court ordered a teenager into "PAS treatment," and he subsequently hung himself.
Young people who have suffered due to inhumane court rulings involving PAS are speaking out.
They are not the only ones. This month, the NOW Foundation joined other leading organizations working on family law and family violence in a complaint filed against the United States with the Inter-American Commission on Human Rights. The complaint charges that U.S. courts are failing to protect the life, liberties, security, and other human rights of abused mothers and children by frequently awarding child custody to abusers and child molesters. PAS is one predominant strategy being used by lawyers to place children in such danger. A recent Newsweek article noted the finding of a Harvard study that in custody cases involving documented spousal abuse, 54% granted custody to the batterer, and parental alienation was used as an argument in nearly every single one.
This is not a trend that will fade away. It's junk science that's gaining momentum, amassing victims, fooling powerful government officials, and even attracting an unfortunately famous ally or two like Alec Baldwin. PAS advocates play down the theory's unquestionably absurd roots in Gardner's pseudo-science, pathologize and punish mothers fighting to protect themselves and their children, and stand faithfully by fathers' so-called right to unfettered access to their children despite any history of assault or abuse. And the judges and the media are buying it hook, line and sinker.
Do something about it. Contact the governors who've proclaimed "Parental Alienation Awareness" days and raise their awareness about what's in the best interest of our families. Contact the media outlets who are giving PAS advocates like Alec Baldwin a platform to lie to the public. Pressure your judges to educate themselves and get our justice system back on track.
Gloria Steinem said, "The truth will set you free, but first it will piss you off." I'm definitely pissed off about PAS and hope you are too. It's just what we need to set our families free from junk science, junk justice, and sick realities.
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For more detailed information and sources on PAS: Hoult, Jennifer, (Spring 2006). The Evidentiary Admissibility of Parental Alienation Syndrome: Science, Law, and Policy, Children's Legal Rights Journal, 26(1) pp. 1-61.
More unbelievable quotes from Richard Gardner
Recent Below the Belt columns |
Copyright 1995-2007, All rights reserved. Permission granted for non-commercial use. National Organization for Women
(This was printed from http://www.now.org/news/note/051707.html)
And here is a WONDERFUL read for all the pickleheads on elite. I gots nuthin but love fer yaz!
Sick Joke or Sick Reality?
Below the Belt: A Biweekly Column by NOW President Kim Gandy
May 17, 2007
I know you think I'm talking about "Opie and Anthony," recently suspended from their radio talk gig for "joking" with a guest, "Homeless Charlie" who said he wanted to rape Condoleezza Rice and Laura Bush. The hosts encouraged these horrifying remarks -- in fact they laughed and imagined "the horror" on Rice's face as she is held down and punched in the face.
No, I'm talking about another sick reality. Let me ask you first: Would you trust a guy who wrote that rape victims "gain pleasure from being beaten, bound, and otherwise made to suffer" as "the price they are willing to pay for gaining the gratification of receiving the sperm?" A guy who published his belief that "the child who has suffered bona fide abuse may very well have enjoyed the experience..."? A guy who claimed that incest is not harmful, (citing Shakespeare) only "thinking makes it so"?
And I know I don't even have to ask this -- but would you trust this guy with your kids?
I thought not. Which leads me to ponder how on earth the "theory" this guy thought up has found its way into court rooms across the country, and is currently influencing child custody decisions, especially those involving child abuse. That's right, this guy, a psychiatrist named Richard Gardner -- who, by the way, also asserted that adult-child sex is normal AND beneficial for both parties as well as for the survival of the human race -- is being given credence in cases involving the fate of children and families.
And believe it or not, it seems that nine state governors have jumped on Gardner's pro-pedophilia bandwagon. In Florida, Indiana, Connecticut, Kentucky, Nebraska, Iowa, Maine, and Nevada, there is now reportedly a whole day officially dedicated to raising "awareness" about Gardner's theory called Parental Alienation Syndrome, in which the very reports of abuse by a child against a father are themselves evidence that the child is being brainwashed by the mother (and if the child is angry at the father, or doesn't want to visit, that's even more evidence) and the only "cure" for this syndrome is to force the child to live with the abuser and deny ANY contact with the protective mother, who has no history of abuse.
C'mon, you're thinking, what judge would buy this crock? Doesn't it matter if the abuse really happened? Apparently not.
Although it may sound like it, this is no sick joke. It's a sad, sick reality. And anyone who cares even a little about children's human rights and the epidemic of family violence should take note and take action.
Let's start with the lowdown on "parental alienation syndrome" (PAS), which is also being called "parental alienation." Like I said, Richard Gardner thought it up. The late Dr. Gardner was a child psychiatrist who liked to tell people he was a full professor at Columbia University's College of Physicians and Surgeons. Actually, he was an unpaid volunteer. But hey -- professor, volunteer; child sexual abuse, fun adult-child sex -- hey, what's the difference? If you're Richard Gardner, not much.
But I digress. While Gardner was volunteering at Columbia in the 1980s, he formed some opinions and made some personal observations that, together, he decided to call "parental alienation syndrome." He defined PAS as a condition arising from one parent's (mostly mothers, he said) "programming" of the child to wage an unreasonable "campaign of denigration against" the other parent (most of the time, the father, according to Gardner). PAS, he said, arises most often during child custody disputes, usually involves false allegations of child sexual abuse as part of the programmer parent's attempt to turn the child against the other parent, and causes "enormous grief" in the alienated parent.
Gardner's diagnostic criteria included finding out from the child the parent's "frequency of programming thoughts" and the parent's "success in manipulating the legal system to enhance the programming." The ridiculousness of these criteria goes without saying. Gardner was insistent that the "programming parent" is the mother, and that the alienated parent is the father. He opined that treatment involve forcing the mother to stop expressing negative views about the father and granting custody of the child to him and denying any visitation to her. No part of the PAS diagnostic process involves examining the father's psychiatric history or conduct, or even inquiring whether he had actually engaged in abuse.
According to an article by Dr. Paul J. Fink, past president of the American Psychiatric Association, and Hon. Sol Gothard, retired judge and former faculty member for the National Council of Juvenile and Family Court Judges:
"Parental Alienation Syndrome has been used nationwide by batterers as a courtroom tactic to silence abused children by attempting to discredit their disclosures of abuse. This theory is not recognized as valid by the American Psychological Association, the American Psychiatric Association, or the American Medical Association. Parental Alienation Syndrome is not accepted as a psychiatric diagnosis, and has been rejected by the mainstream psychological community. Parental Alienation Syndrome is junk science; there is no valid research or empirical data to support this unproven theory."
To date, none of the studies necessary to judge the validity of Gardner's so-called syndrome have been conducted. In 2006, the Children's Legal Rights Journal (a multi-disciplinary journal published in conjunction with the American Bar Association Center on Children and the Law, the National Association of Counsel for Children, and the Loyola University School of Law) and the National Council of Juvenile and Family Court Judges each published analyses finding no scientific or legal basis for the use of PAS.
And yet, PAS keeps making appearances in courts across the country, subverting and perverting the pursuit of justice one family at a time. According to the Children's Legal Rights Journal, a North Carolina court incarcerated a teenage girl who refused to visit her father, and a New Jersey court suspended a mother's contact with her two children, granting sole custody to the father despite "'foreseeable emotional upset and possible trauma'" to the children (Hoult, 1). In Pennsylvania, a court ordered a teenager into "PAS treatment," and he subsequently hung himself.
Young people who have suffered due to inhumane court rulings involving PAS are speaking out.
They are not the only ones. This month, the NOW Foundation joined other leading organizations working on family law and family violence in a complaint filed against the United States with the Inter-American Commission on Human Rights. The complaint charges that U.S. courts are failing to protect the life, liberties, security, and other human rights of abused mothers and children by frequently awarding child custody to abusers and child molesters. PAS is one predominant strategy being used by lawyers to place children in such danger. A recent Newsweek article noted the finding of a Harvard study that in custody cases involving documented spousal abuse, 54% granted custody to the batterer, and parental alienation was used as an argument in nearly every single one.
This is not a trend that will fade away. It's junk science that's gaining momentum, amassing victims, fooling powerful government officials, and even attracting an unfortunately famous ally or two like Alec Baldwin. PAS advocates play down the theory's unquestionably absurd roots in Gardner's pseudo-science, pathologize and punish mothers fighting to protect themselves and their children, and stand faithfully by fathers' so-called right to unfettered access to their children despite any history of assault or abuse. And the judges and the media are buying it hook, line and sinker.
Do something about it. Contact the governors who've proclaimed "Parental Alienation Awareness" days and raise their awareness about what's in the best interest of our families. Contact the media outlets who are giving PAS advocates like Alec Baldwin a platform to lie to the public. Pressure your judges to educate themselves and get our justice system back on track.
Gloria Steinem said, "The truth will set you free, but first it will piss you off." I'm definitely pissed off about PAS and hope you are too. It's just what we need to set our families free from junk science, junk justice, and sick realities.
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For more detailed information and sources on PAS: Hoult, Jennifer, (Spring 2006). The Evidentiary Admissibility of Parental Alienation Syndrome: Science, Law, and Policy, Children's Legal Rights Journal, 26(1) pp. 1-61.
More unbelievable quotes from Richard Gardner
Recent Below the Belt columns |
Copyright 1995-2007, All rights reserved. Permission granted for non-commercial use. National Organization for Women
(This was printed from http://www.now.org/news/note/051707.html)
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holy shit. I don't have time to read lal that
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the_clockwork said:
Hey, I didn't write the article... I only posted it for those who *might* care about how children are being screwed like mine.
You know... for all of the pickleheads who keep shouting "you dirty crazy whore - you MUST have done something to keep losing custody."
See once I got over the shame/stigma and started telling people what is happening to me - all the other people who this is happening to or who grew up like this *magically* started coming out of the woodwork.
Cant wait to have my say on TV. That should be interesting.
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SLAYER69! said:
Right now we are waiting to hear back from the producers of two major talk shows. But I have emailed every show from 60 minutes to cbs evening news to any other program that I could think of. We have also begun emailing elected officials and government agencies like the FBI - that's right peeps the freaking FBI. I read it on their website "When you should contact the FBI" and it clearly said they - protect civil rights and combat corruption at all levels.
My sister was aghast at how nasty, harrassing and intimidating the police were to her and my brother-in-law in their own home. Now imagine you are a kid (my younger three are 13 1/2, 12 and 10 1/2). They have been saying for months that "nobody cares and it won't matter anyway."
My daughter Kristina said it best, "Now I see why kids are killed and raped and starved, etc its because the people who are supposed to help protect them from their abusers are mean and just give them right back which makes the abusers even nastier than if they had just kept their mouths shut and lived with it."
THINK ABOUT THAT PEOPLE.
JUST THINK ABOUT IT.
You think that this is only happening to MY kids?
BIKINIMOM said:
Have you tried Nancy Grace? She specilaizes on victims rights on her show:
http://www.cnn.com/CNN/anchors_reporters/grace.nancy.html
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SLAYER69! said:
Never heard of her. I haven't watched TV in like 8 years so I have a handicap here LOL. I genuinely appreciate the info.
If anyone else has any suggestions, please post up!
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I sent the blog to both Nancy Grace and Paula Zahn.
Any other suggestions... please post up!
Any other suggestions... please post up!
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BIKINIMOM said:Never heard of her. I haven't watched TV in like 8 years so I have a handicap here LOL. I genuinely appreciate the info.
If anyone else has any suggestions, please post up!
Nancy would love to sink her teeth into this story, E.
Get ahold of court TV....LIKE NOW!
Great idea, Slayer!
Ortiz, honestly, your feelings for BM aside, it's really irrelevant how good of a mother or person you think she is. If her children are being molested and abused, their welfare is frankly all that matters. Even if you don't think they should be with her, which I'm not going to get into, the focus ought to be on the safety of her children, EVEN at the cost of BOTH parents losing custodial rights.
Yeah, she is still doing stories on Natalie Holloway. You would think she could use some new material. Chris Hansen on Dateline NBC always runs that child predator bit too. Not to make light, but I f'king crack up seeing the look on the guys faces when Hansen pops out from behind a door.vixensghost said:
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nefertiti said:
EXACTLY - why my blog ends the way it did.
I have said it before and I will say it again. This is not about custody. It is about abuse.
On a side note though, I am still waiting to hear ONE concrete statement as to why I am the devil. This "She must have done something pretty bad to have a judge take her kids away from her" rhetoric has worn thin. Odd, OJ Simpson has legal and physical custody of his kids and he "only" viciously murdered their mother (like my ex's grandfather did to his grandmother) and the poor dood who happened to be with her at the time of her demise.
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Bump for all the pickleheads that are going to tell me what it is that I could have possibly done to lose custody that was worse than what OJ Simpson did. (In a civil court anyways because the glove didn't fit so, of course, they had to acquit.)
Please.... enlighten us.
Please.... enlighten us.
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ortiz34 said:
FUCK YOU ASSHOLE.
I know it aint like baby seals or whether or not I can shoot clambuteroil into my asshole....
I STARTED ONE THREAD YOU IDIOT.
Just admit that you are a dumbass fucking simpleton that sounds like a fucking douche bobo and scroll the fuck on past my threads.
Or keep posting up your wanton hate and continue to endear yourself to all the pickleheaded asstards.... This was Your thread - ASSHOLE... YOUR CHOICE.
I guess I was right about that "chairman status member thing" not being indicative of one's intellectual capacity.
BIKINIMOM said:FUCK YOU ASSHOLE.
I know it aint like baby seals or whether or not I can shoot clambuteroil into my asshole....
Just admit that you are a dumbass fucking simpleton that sounds like a fucking douche bobo and scroll the fuck on past my threads.
Or keep posting up your wanton hate and continue to endear yourself to all the pickleheaded asstards.... Your thread - ASSHOLE... YOUR CHOICE.
One word my sweet EF cougar ----- Therapy
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ortiz34 said:
For?
